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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 23, 2024 19:14:24 GMT -5
Couple of wrestling related deaths, recently.
Taylor Wily, aka Teila Tuli, passed away June 20. He was born in Hawaii, of Samoan heritage and was recruited into sumo, in 1987, with the Azumazeki stable, with Akebono later to become a stablemate. he rose to the rank of Makashita 2, before leaving sumo.
In 1990, he was trained in the New Japan Dojo and became part of Tatsumi Fijinami's Dragon Bombers stable, before it was dissolved, in 1992 and he left New Japan. He fought in the very first UFC, in the opening fight, against Gerard Gordeau, who landed a brutal kick, punches and knees, knocking out several teeth, including one that became embedded in Gordeau's foot. It was a staple of UFC highlights in the early years.
He also acted and appeared in the revived Hawaii 5-0 and Magnum PI series, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, and the McGyver movie.
The other death was former Warner exec Jamie Kellner. He started out as part of CBS syndication devision and then Filmways production & distribution, before it was bought out by Orion Pictures. He was part of the launch of Fox Broadcasting and was president of Fox Television from 1986-1993. He helped launch the WB Television network, in 1994. He was made head of Turner Broadcasting in 2000, succeeding Ted Turner in 2001. He was the one who made the decision to cancel WCW Monday Nitro and Thunder, in an effort to attract higher profile advertisers and programming, dooming the potential sale of WCW to an investor group put togrther by Eric Bischoff. Instead, WCW was sold to Vince McMahon, for less than peanuts. Kellner's decision ultimately led to the end of WCW, as without the tv slots, there was no interest in purchasing the company, apart from McMahon, who was interested in the tape library and a few performers.
Kellner was 77.
Wrestling fans hated the decision; but, from a corporate broadcast decision, the move made sense, as, despite their previous high ratings, WCW never attracted high advertising dollars and even lower rated programming could draw better advertising, without the stigma attached to pro wrestling, in the mainstream. WCW was losing money, and Warner tried selling; but, the interest in buying died with the absence of the tv spots. However, Kellner's responsibility was for the broadcasting, not Turner Sports. Many of the high dollar WCW contracts were actually with Turner Broadcasting or other divisions and not WCW, which is why they continued to be paid, after the sale and why they were not bought out, by Vince McMahon.
It is highly debatable whether a new investor, keeping the time slots, could have returned WCW to profitability and popularity.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 24, 2024 10:35:34 GMT -5
I recently watched Starrcade 1994
Schiavone and Heenan on commentary, with Okerlund. This is in Nashville, Tennessee.
We get the match everyone has been clamoring for, Hulk Hogan vs. the Butcher (Brutus Beefcake) as, of course, the main event.
On WCW Saturday Night, Randy Savage showed up. Apparently, at this PPV, he will meet Hogan and either shake his hand or slap his face. Frankly, that is more interesting than the actual main event.
A promotional poster reading “One Historic Night! Too Intense to believe! 3 Main Events!” featured the faces listed in the wrong order of match placement on the card and the three faces to represent each match were also the winners of all three matches – way to give it away, guys!
Opening match is for the US Title: Hacksaw Jim Duggan (champ) vs. Vader, w. Harley Race.
This was supposedly, according to the promotional posters, one of the three main events, and yet it is opening. Okay. Between that and the fact that Vader won a triangle match to become the #1 contender and yet now has to defeat Duggan to retain that #1 ranking and supposedly get his title shot, no wonder Vader is getting fed up with WCW. Well, serves Vader right for not being buddies with Hogan.
Vader wins after bout ten and a half minuets when he shoves Duggan, who runs into the 2x4 that Harley Race, standing on the apron, is holding (I have no idea how the ref didn’t see that) then Vader gives Duggan the reverse wheelbarrow slam for the win.
This was a pretty good match. One of the better matches involving Duggan that you’ll see, largely because of Vader’s selling for Duggan. In fact, he really sold too much and didn’t look that strong in victory, especially as he needed help to win after getting beat on for probably the majority of the match. Duggan never was generous about selling, though. Even though this was one of the best Duggan matches, it's also one of the worst Vader matches to this point,
We then see Hulk Hogan getting awarded the Pro Wrestling Illustrated Wrestler of the Year award. Are you kidding?!?! I believe this was voted on by the fans, and I read somewhere that Bret Hart finished second. I’d much rather Hart had won, then we wouldn’t have to see Hogan’s acceptance speech here. Also, Hogan didn’t even wrestle the first half of the year, and didn’t really wrestle a whole lot when he did come back, but of course he’s going to win this award. Sigh.
We then get a lousy promo from the Three Faces of Fear (Butcher, Avalanche, and Kevin Sullivan)
Next match is Alex Wright vs. Jean-Paul Levesque
Levesque (the heel here) is of course Triple H, bad French accent and all. And Wright is a teenager that WCW discovered on their tour of Germany.
First of all, I will say that I really enjoyed this match overall. However, these guys lose the crowd soon, partly because WCW decided to schedule two totally green wrestlers whom nobody has ever heard of in the grandaddy of all PPV’s, partly because these guys slow things down early with a lot of mat wrestling, and partly perhaps because they’re doing things backwards, with the face slowing things down rather than the heel. Anyway, while there were a lot of rest holds and mat wrestling, there was also enough cool stuff to keep my interest. Wright wins after about 14 minutes when Levesque misses a corner charge and Wright does a backflip over him then rolls him up for the pin.
Next match is for the TV Title: Johnny B Badd vs. Arn Anderson
When Arn comes out, they play Honky Tonk Man’s music. Okay, I know it was originally supposed to be Honky challenging Badd for the title (I think this is almost a last minute replacement as Honky either quit or was fired) but come on, WCW, get your act together for a change and play the right entrance music! Or none would be fine.
This was a decent match, especially considering that it was thrown together at the last minute. To some extent I think Arn (who, like a lot of other non-Hogan guys, was pretty fed up with WCW at this point) phoned it in a bit, but still a pretty good match. Nothing great, and a cliched ending, but solid enough. One odd spot was when Arn delivered his spinebuster then…decided not to cover for…reasons. Heenan said that he must be disoriented. I guess so.
Then as see those PWI awards again as the Tag Team of the Year is…the Nasty Boys?! Well, to be fair, this was a pretty weak year for tag teams, and they did have some good matches with Cactus Jack and his partners. And heck, it could have been worse. The Bushwhackers could have won the award.
Next match is the Nasty Boys vs. Harlem Heat.
I don’t even know who the tag team champs are at this point. I think it’s really Harlem Heat, but Tony mentions it being Stars & Stripes, so this is probably more confusion caused by WCW’s ridiculous taping cycles.
The Nasties win when Sister Sherri comes off the top rope, trying to hit one of the Nasties but hits her own guy instead, earning Harlem Heat the DQ loss. I have no idea why she did that in plan sight of the ref (pretty dumb) but that means we sat through a dull 18 minute match for a DQ ending. Great. After the match, Sherri got a Pit Stop, which was kinda cool. This match was below average though, with poor psychology and went on too long and had a dumb ending.
Next, we go back to the PWI awards to see that Sting has won the Most Popular Wrestler award. What, does WCW own PWI or something? Also, why do they have a Wrestler of the Year award and a Most Popular Wrestler award? Wouldn’t that be the same thing?
Next match is Kevin Sullivan vs. Mr. T.
Sigh. Mr. T comes out in the same ridiculous Zebra stripe shirt with matching nightcap that he wore at Halloween Havoc. Tony says that this is the first time Mr. T has wrestled, because I guess Wrestlemania doesn’t count? Okay, Tony. They start brawling, with T throwing some stiff looking punches. Someone should tell him this is wrestling, not boxing. They spill out onto the floor. Should have been a double countout, as both guys much have been outside the ring for about 2 minutes. But why bother paying attention to rules. Mr. T falls onto a cameraman, Sullivan tries to pull T’s short off over his head but it gets stuck at his wrists, they both somehow get inside the ring and Jimmy Hart hands “Santa” (who is actually Dave Sullivan) his megaphone and “Santa” gets on the apron and clobbers Kevin with it (which the ref somehow misses) and Mr. T covers the prostrate Kevin for the win…with his shirt still stuck over his wrists. So the face won with blatant, heel style cheating. What an absolute disaster of a match. Terrible. The best thing I can say about it is that it was short. Mr. T had no business in a wrestling ring in 1994. The A-Team had been off the air for several years now and Mr. T wasn’t much of a star at this point, anyway, but I guess he was buddies with Hogan so there you go. After the match, Kevin attacks Evad/Santa and I have to say, the visual of Santa Claus getting piledriven was actually the best part of this match. The crowd was dead for this one, and I can’t blame them. Also, it was weird to have a professional wrestler who’s getting a bit of a push (Kevin) lose to a non-wrestler. Another head scratching WCW decision.
Then Hulk Hogan (w. Jimmy Hart, being interviewed by Gene Okerlund) cuts a rant of a promo that sounded heelish. He also promises to throw out the rule book this time. Since when have you ever followed the rules, Hogan??
Next match is Sting vs. Avalanche (w. Kevin Sullivan)
Avalanche is of course Earthquake.
This match was awful. It’s a WCW PPV, so you know that means we have to have a ref bump. Another ref comes in an Sting wins via DQ after Hogan comes out with a chair to protect Sting. I’m not sure why the DQ was called. If it was for Kevin Sullivans interference, the ref should have called for the bell much sooner. Maybe the ref just said “this sucks, let’s end it”. Probably the worst Sting match I’ve seen to this point. After Hogan runs in the Ring, Heenan says “I’m sick of Hogan.” Amen, brother!!!
We go back to the PWI awards, and WCW has won ANOTHER award! Jimmy Hart is manager of the year. How do those PWI people sleep at night?
Now we get the main event that everyone in the world has been anxiously awaiting: Hulk Hogan (WCW Heavyweight Champ) vs. the Butcher!!!
Hogan wins with a leg drop. What a shocker!
In hindsight this had no business being a PPV main event, but in fairness, this matchup probably didn’t seem all that bad at the time with the tried and true angle of Hulk Hogan’s best friend turning on him (ever think the problem might be you, Hulkster?) though it obviously doesn’t get any points for originality and I think that the first time the masked man attacked Hogan Butcher was right there so it couldn’t have been him, but whatever.
Michael Buffer says “Hulkmania” instead of “Hulkamania”. I think he’s doen tht before, yet nobody at WCW has bothered to correct him. Also, Hogan gets introduced twice. Either because hey, he’s Hulk Hogan, or because those dummies forgot that he’d already been introduced. Just a disaster of a PPV all around.
Also, this match seemed more like 2 buddies just messing around than a major event. It was also ridiculous as Butcher chocked Hogan with a cable, yet no DQ. Hogan hit Butcher with a steel chair – twice -and no DQ. The other two Faces of Fear entered the ring, and no DQ. Okay, whatever.
Then you’d got Tony Schiavone saying nonsense like “we’ve never seen Hogan act like this” when doing something like biting Butcher. Give me a break! He does that all the time! Or saying him pushing a ref is uncharacteristic. Is there another Hulk Hogan that I’m unaware of?
The best thing about this match, and in fact this whole PPV, was Bobby Heenan. He was hilarious, especially in articulating his hatred of Hulk Hogan.
After the match, in the locker room, Okerlund is interviewing Hogan when Vader storms in an runs down Hogan and says he’s scared of him and (justly) demands a championship match then leaves (or is escorted out). Okerlund then asks WCW president Nick Bockwinkle about this intrusion, and Bockwinkle says that Vader did win the triangle match to determine the #1 challenger, then went out and won the US Championship, then he really just kind of stops saying anything coherent and Hogan toadie Okerlund tells him to get lost, as I guess he didn’t say what Okerlund wanted to hear.
Overall, a rather poor PPV and perhaps the worst Starrcade ever(?) I thought the first 3 matches were decent, though not great by any means, and the rest of the show just stunk.
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Post by driver1980 on Jun 24, 2024 11:06:22 GMT -5
I believe I agree with 99% of what you’ve written, if not 100%. As for this being the worst Starrcade ever, well, wait until you reach 1999. That’s horrible. Years ago, someone at PWI, possibly Stu M. Says, claimed that PWI did legitimately count award ballots, but 1994 was the year when I thought that maybe, just maybe, that wasn’t true. It’s a bit convenient that Hogan and his buddies all won awards. I mean, did Jimmy Hart really have a better managerial year in 1994 than, say, Paul Bearer? As for Wrestler of the Year and Most Popular Wrestler, I believe the former was supposed to be about in-ring talent, the latter was about popularity only. And as for Hogan winning, that’s silly given he wrestled one match in January 1994 (in Japan) and June to December in 1994. How’s that make you Wrester of the Year? That’d be like having a ten-round boxing match, but the judges awarding the bout to one boxer after just five rounds. Hogan/Butcher had a match that delivered exactly what folk expected, nothing more, nothing less. Mind you, I’d have been disappointed if two real-life friends hadn’t had chemistry. Oh, Alex Wright, isn’t the legal drinking age 21 in the USA? That would have meant Wright could not have gone out drinking with the other wrestlers after the PPV, right? There really isn’t much here to recommend, is there. One feels sorry for Vader. Incidentally, there were reports after this that Jean-Paul Lévesque and Lord Steven Regal were going to form a snooty tag team. I would have loved to have seen what tag team name WCW would have come up with for a snooty British Lord and a French aristocrat. Although knowing WCW, they’d have come up with something absurd. Could we really have trusted a company that wrapped a wrestler completely in bandages - and called him The Yeti?
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 24, 2024 12:22:05 GMT -5
I believe I agree with 99% of what you’ve written, if not 100%. As for this being the worst Starrcade ever, well, wait until you reach 1999. That’s horrible. Years ago, someone at PWI, possibly Stu M. Says, claimed that PWI did legitimately count award ballots, but 1994 was the year when I thought that maybe, just maybe, that wasn’t true. It’s a bit convenient that Hogan and his buddies all won awards. I mean, did Jimmy Hart really have a better managerial year in 1994 than, say, Paul Bearer? As for Wrestler of the Year and Most Popular Wrestler, I believe the former was supposed to be about in-ring talent, the latter was about popularity only. And as for Hogan winning, that’s silly given he wrestled one match in January 1994 (in Japan) and June to December in 1994. How’s that make you Wrester of the Year? That’d be like having a ten-round boxing match, but the judges awarding the bout to one boxer after just five rounds. Hogan/Butcher had a match that delivered exactly what folk expected, nothing more, nothing less. Mind you, I’d have been disappointed if two real-life friends hadn’t had chemistry. Oh, Alex Wright, isn’t the legal drinking age 21 in the USA? That would have meant Wright could not have gone out drinking with the other wrestlers after the PPV, right? There really isn’t much here to recommend, is there. One feels sorry for Vader.Incidentally, there were reports after this that Jean-Paul Lévesque and Lord Steven Regal were going to form a snooty tag team. I would have loved to have seen what tag team name WCW would have come up with for a snooty British Lord and a French aristocrat. Although knowing WCW, they’d have come up with something absurd. Could we really have trusted a company that wrapped a wrestler completely in bandages - and called him The Yeti? You mean Starrcade 1999 is even worse?! One feels sorry for Vader, as well as a lot of other good wrestlers who weren't buddies with Hulk. They did tease a Lévesque-Regal tag team during this presentation. I'd have loved to have seen that, though you're right that WCW probably would have screwed it up. Lévesque did remind me a bit of Regal here.
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Post by driver1980 on Jun 24, 2024 17:00:31 GMT -5
Some sites are reporting that Hulk Hogan is considering running for president. He has the main qualification: lying. I hope he does run. If he does, will a journalist please, please, please challenge him on his Wembley Stadium lie…
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 24, 2024 20:18:48 GMT -5
Wright was 19 when he signed with WCW, after they saw hi wrestle, in Germany. He was a pedigree wrestler, son of British wrestler Steve Wright, who was a mainstay of the CWA, in Germany, as well as wrestling all over the world, including matches against Tiger Mask (Sayama). WCW never really played that up, since Steve Wright never really wrestled in the States (or at least for any length of time), but the old man was good and Alex could go, but had to adjust to the American style and the fact that a lot of WCW guys couldn't work, period, let alone work European spots. Had Benoit been there, at that point, they could have torn up the ring. Regal would have been a better opponent for him. JPL/HHH was still pretty green, not that long out of Kowalski's school and switching gimmicks from Terra Ryzing, which he used when he came into WCW (and the name he had, when he was IWF tag team champion, with Perry Saturn).
PWI was considered a competitor to the WWF Magazine and did not have access to the WWF events and performers, like they did in the NWA/WCW promotions. The fans of the magazine tended to skew heavily to Other-Than WWF. According to Stu Saks, on the Kayfabe Memories message board, the votes were legit, with fans choosing the winners. Of course, PWI reporting would obviously skew heavily to WCW and the indies, still in existence. So, yeah, the wins by WCW were likely legit and WCW (and Crockett and Georgia, before) always gave them access for awards presentations. PWI used to have regular spots on TBS, in the Georgia days and were often there in the Crockett days.
Wrestler of the Year was given to the best all-around wrestler of the year, in terms of success. Most Popular Wrestler was the most beloved, regardless of their win-loss record. They also had a Most Hated Wrestler and there were regular stats, in each issue, for Most popular and Most Hated. There was a time when Hogan was on both lists. Wrestler of the Year usually went to the wrestler who had the biggest match or matches of the year. Flair won it several times, usually beating out Hogan, though Hogan won in 1987, 1991 and 1994. Hogan won Most Popular several times, including 1985, 1989 and 1990. He won Most Hated in 1996 and 1998.
The runners up for Tag Team were The Headshrinkers (aka the Samoan Swat Team), followed by Public Enemy and the Rock N Roll Express.
George Napolitano's magazines had better access to the WWF and were not, apparently, considered competition (they were mostly newsprint mags). They tended to feature more WWF coverage.
Bill Apter did a lot of ringside photography at WCW events, going back to Crockett. You would see him on PPVs, usually kneeling at ringside, waiting for a good shot.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 24, 2024 20:47:59 GMT -5
Some sites are reporting that Hulk Hogan is considering running for president. He has the main qualification: lying. I hope he does run. If he does, will a journalist please, please, please challenge him on his Wembley Stadium lie… Hogan has said that before, with no inclination to actually do it. It's his usual attempt to try to get publicity. It would take 5 seconds for someone like TMZ to pull out footage from the steroid trial, his sex tape scandal, and get his ex-wife to speak on camera and dish more dirt. You don't need to bring up the lies. Same reason Flair has never seriously considered a run for office, as he didn't want people digging into his secrets, either. he was actually involved with the North Carolina Republicans; so, of the two, he might have been able to get the party behind him, though anyone in Charlotte, knew his rep with the ring rats. Backlund, I believe, did actually run for a Congressional seat, as a Republican, in 2000 (and lost). Brian Blair lost a run for County Commissioner, in a close race, then won the next election, then lost the following, in Florida. Rick Steiner won a school board seat, in Georgia, in 2006. Of course, Jess Ventura was elected mayor of Brooklyn Park, MN and later governor. In Japan, Antonio Inoki was elected to the House of Councillors, in Japan, in 1989 and was eventually forced to resign, in a scandal, though he ran for office again, in 2013 and won. Hiroshi Hase was also elected to the House of Concillors, in 1995 and the House of Representatives, in 2000, and was appointed to a cabinet post, in 2015. He was elected Governor if Ishikawa Prefecture, in 2022. Atsushi Onita won election to the House of Councillors, in 2001 and was forced to resign, in a sex scandal, when it was discovered he used government accommodations for a three-way (not a dance) with a porn actress and a female employee of the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transportation. Great Sasuke was elected to the Iwate Prefecture Assembly, in 2003, campaigning in his mask and he actually wore it at official functions. He later unsuccessfully ran for Governor if Iwate Prefecture. This documentary features him campaigning for office (and losing) and includes footage from his time in the Prefecture Assembly.....
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Post by driver1980 on Jun 25, 2024 3:59:00 GMT -5
Bashed in the USA, which I revisited last night, is certainly a good name for a tape, so I give Coliseum 10 out of 10 for marketing. Mr. Perfect hosts the tape, and he will discuss his stamp collection. I did like how some Coliseum segments showed us another side to the wrestlers. The Big Boss Man battles Razor Ramon in a reasonably entertaining bout, but it felt a little like they lacked chemistry. At least we got a conclusive win as Ramon pinned Boss Man, albeit with his feet on the ropes. Tatanka & High Energy battle Rick Martel & Money Inc. This has, erm, a high energy to it (sorry) as an arrogant model, a rich heel and a taxman are heels you love to hate. IRS pins Koko for the win. A profile of Shawn Michaels featured 3 of his matches: against Kamala, Skinner, and Virgil. Michaels and Kamala battle to a double count out in a surprisingly solid bout; in a rare heel-vs-heel encounter, Michaels and Skinner haved a good bout, which I wish had went longer (Michaels wins via pinfall); and Michaels beats Virgil via pinfall, those two had some good chemistry. I like battle royals, mainly for the intrigue of not knowing who’s gonna go at it early on, and the chance to see heel vs heel scraps. We have a 40-man battle royal, which includes some enhancement talent. Tatanka survives a triple-team by IRS and the Beverly Brothers to win. Incidentally, I never understood it when a heel and a heel tag team would go after the babyface. Surely, logically if IRS and the Beverlys had eliminated Tatanka, then the Beverlys would have turned on IRS? Wouldn’t it have made tactical sense for IRS and Tatanka to become strange bedfellows and eliminate the tag team threat first? It reminded me of the 1988 Royal Rumble, where Butch Reed and the Hart Foundation went to town on Tito Santana. Reed gave Bret and Neidhart a high-five during their attack on Santana. Erm, Butch, you do realise that if you help them eliminate Santana, they, as a tag team, will turn their attention to you? Even as a kid, WWF logic made no sense at times… In a fascinating segment, Bret Hart showcases his artistic skills and does some sketches. Bret Hart defended his IC Championship against Rick Martel. For whatever reason, I never felt these two managed to have any chemistry (another match of theirs featured on a Coliseum tape). The same applied here. Bret wins via DQ after Shawn Michaels interferes. The Beverly Brothers beat the Natural Disasters via count-out in a match I forgot the minute it ended. We end with Undertaker vs. Yokozuna (pre-WM IX). It lasted minutes and Undertaker wins via DQ after Yokozuna uses the salt bucket. It’s hard to recommend this one. The Shawn Michael profile just about makes it worthwhile, and if battle royals are your thing, then that’s a bonus. Everything else is merely okay or avoidable, but those bouts failed to live up to my expectations.
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Post by driver1980 on Jun 26, 2024 5:26:44 GMT -5
Last night’s tape was Crunch Classic, released in 1992: Roddy Piper hosts, and we’re promised, according to the tape’s sleeve, a “profile of Roddy Piper and a collection of his best matches”. Hmmm… The profile begins with Piper vs. The Mountie from Royal Rumble ‘92. Great, a match already available on the Rumble ‘92 tape. Oh, Coliseum, what were you like? So many unreleased matches you could have included, but you’re recycling again. The match, which seems like a glorified squash, serves its purpose as Piper wins his first WWF title. El Matador and Virgil take on Money Inc. (who are managed by Sherri here) in a heated bout. After Sherri accidentally hits IRS with a shoe, Virgil pins him. DiBiase and IRS argue, but DiBiase gives IRS some money and all is well. Incidentally, did Jack Tunney ever consider maybe mandating that Sherri attend matches barefoot? That shoe was used so many times. Same for Fuji’s cane, Hart’s megaphone, etc. We get to spend 24 hours, or some footage of 24 hours, with Jimmy Hart. Not my favourite segment. The New Foundation, who I wish had had a longer run, took on the Nasty Boys - and won via DQ. This is memorable mostly for Owen’s ring style. Time for Piper’s profile to continue - with his match against Adrian Adonis at WM III, which was fun (Piper wins via sleeperhold). So, a ‘collection of Piper’s best matches’ is two PPV matches already available on other tapes. Lame, Coliseum Video, lame. There were some other matches that could have been used. Nothing worse back in the day than having duplication of matches, tapes weren’t cheap. (The video sleeve should have read, “Two Piper matches, both of which are on other tapes”) The match of the tape, which was chosen by a fan (allegedly), saw Davey Boy Smith take on The Undertaker. This is powerful good vs. evil stuff. Davey Boy uses his finisher on Undertaker, and for one brief moment of eternity, it looks like Davey Boy has won - until Paul Bearer interferes. Undertaker later gets the pin after he uses the urn. Damn, you came so close, Davey! The Texas Tornado takes on The Model Rick Martel in a painfully average match which ends with a DQ win for Tornado after Martel sprays cologne into Tornado’s eyes. Jake Roberts shows us his collection of snakes (most likely not his snakes, unless he kept loads at home). As someone who is afraid of snakes, this wasn’t for me. I have a friend who has told me I am welcome to stop on her sofa any time - she lives in another city - but the fact she has a snake at home means I’ve never taken her up on the offer. I can’t sleep in the same house as a snake, no way! In a really boring match, Jim Neidhart and Skinner battle to an unsatisfying time limit draw (15 minutes). Could no-one have done the job here? And did it need 15 minutes? The tape ends on a flat note as the Natural Disasters take on Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Sgt. Slaughter. This sounded intriguing - as Slaughter, previously a dastaredly heel, was gonna be battling ‘Quake and Typhoon - but it did not live up to any reasonable expectations I had. Totally anti-climatic, and the Disasters won by DQ. Oh, and this was billed as the “Tag Team Match of the Month”. This is an underwhelming and anti-climatic tape. Its lazy use of two previously released Piper matches lets it down. But, really, only the New Foundation/Nasty Boys and Davey Boy/Undertaker matches are worth a watch. Everything else is forgettable.
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Post by commond on Jun 26, 2024 5:46:57 GMT -5
RIP to Sika, one half of the Wild Samoans and the father of Roman Reigns. Coincidently, I've been watching a bunch of Wild Samoans matches recently and have been enjoying them immensely.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 26, 2024 12:14:38 GMT -5
First saw the Samoans in Georgia, in 1982, managed by Sonny King. They were the National Tag Team Champions, before leaving the territory, while still champions. That led to a fictional tournament where the Road Warriors, who had just debuted, won the titles, setting them on the road to superstardom. Both teams just beat the hell out of opponents, though the Samoans did it slowly and worked the trapezius hold. I have to say, as much as I hated Lou Albano's schtick, when I saw WWF programming, he was perfect as their manager. I also caught some of Sika teaming with Rodney, as Kokina, in Continental Wrestling Federation. I've read stories about Afa's young days, in California, as a fan who got into brawls and they decided to smarten him up before he hurt a wrestler, leading to him training with Peter Maivia and Rocky Johnson (plus some further seasoning in Arizona). Once he was established, he sent for Sika and the formed their tag team, working in Calgary, Vancouver and the West Coast.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jun 27, 2024 19:42:16 GMT -5
Found this on facebook and I believe it Also Goldberg kind of comes off as a bit of a douchebag in Episode 2. Like he doesn't care that he's hurting people because he doesn't understand Kayfabe
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 27, 2024 20:46:16 GMT -5
Found this on facebook and I believe it Also Goldberg kind of comes off as a bit of a douchebag in Episode 2. Like he doesn't care that he's hurting people because he doesn't understand Kayfabe To be fair, he isn't the only one who says it. I heard it from Konnan, Kevin Nash and DDP. The thing is, Konnan and DDP are articulate with their thoughts, when they throw it in. Nash is so baked that he can barely focus his eyes. Russo just talks absolute nonsense and "bros" the hell out of the interviewers. Goldberg comes across as more than a "bit" of a douchebag. By the same token, Bret still polishes up the same grudges, Nash demonstrates how their "Don't give a s#$% attitudes and egos fed the dysfunction, and Bischoff smiles while lying through his teeth and reaching behind someone with a knife. Konnan probably comes across better than anyone, sounding articulate, calling things like they were, poking holes in the BS (like when Russo says he was writing a tv show to attract other viewers, Konnan responds with, "Why would anyone want to stop and watch Judy Bagwell on a pole?"). Madusa is barely seen, but contributes good stuff (she has better in her podcast, where she is promoting her book). I'll say it again; but, Kevin Sullivan looks like he is having some major health issues. In general, he looks thinner than I have seen him in shoot interviews, and there is a moment in the first episode where he puts on his glasses and has a severe tremor in his hands, like he is having neuro-muscular issues. The Rock adds absolutely nothing; but, his company is involved in producing it, with the Dark Side guys, so he has to put in his two cents.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jun 28, 2024 9:08:39 GMT -5
I can’t speak for what superstars got tapes in the US, but in the UK, circa early 1990s, only Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior got tapes devoted to their bouts. Then Bret Hart and Undertaker. And then, in 1994, Razor Ramon. So I revisited this earlier tonight: We begin with a solid bout featuring Razor vs. Bam Bam Bigelow, which the Bad Guy wins via pinfall. We see highlights of the 20-Man Battle Royal which earned the final two participants a shot at the vacant Intercontinental Championship. The Model Rick Martel, The Quebecers and Razor are the final four. As so often happens, the heel and heel team work together…which makes no sense. If the three had eliminated Ramon, then The Quebecers would surely have turned their attention to Martel. Logically, it would have made more sense for Martel and Ramon to quickly form an alliance, leaving them free to eliminate The Quebecers, right? I mean, that makes more sense, yes? Instead, we get the boring, old heel dynamic. In a storyline sense, The Quebecers would have eliminated Martel so that they could pursue the IC championship. (Razor and Martel win) WWF logic, eh? We move on to the IC championship bout between Razor and Martel, which is a good bout. Razor wins and becomes champion. Razor pins Crush in a mediocre bout. And then does the same to Adam Bomb. Neither of these matches are good or bad, they’re something in between. We then arrive at WM X for the Ladder Match between Razor and Shawn. Logically, this match belongs on the tape, but it was already on the WM X tape. Chances are, and I’ve said this a million times, buyers of this tape had seen and owned the WM X tape. Why not show us another bout? Still, it was a tremendous, riveting bout between the two, so for any who hadn’t seen it, it’s good that it’s here. Then it’s “back in time” for Ramon defending the IC title against IRS at Royal Rumble ‘94. It was an okay bout, but already on the PPV tape. Also, this match wasn’t even listed on the videotape sleeve, which proves how inconsequential Coliseum must have considered it. In a non-title match, Razor beat Jeff Jarrett via DQ in a reasonable bout due to interference by Diesel and Shawn Michaels. We end with a fun (but short) bout between Razor and Yokozuna, the highlight of which is Razor attempting the Razor’s Edge on Yoko. Crush inteferes, and then Lex Luger comes out to even the odds. It wouldn’t be a Coliseum Video release without an inconclusive ending, right? Oh, and throughout the tape, Ramon gives us his kayfabe thoughts on his WWF career. Duplication of matches aside, there’s nothing bad here, and most of it is brilliant, showing Razor’s dominance and ascent. One of the better profile tapes of the 90s. I finally did finish watching this a few days ago. I mostly agree with what you've written. The Bam Bam match was solid as long as you discount the very lengthy chinlocks. The recycled matches vs. Shawn and Martel were the best matches on the tape. Yes, they're recycled but if you don't have access to them elsewhere, then very worthy additions to the tape. The matches with Crush and Bomb were indeed mediocre, but at least they weren't overlong. The IRS match stunk. The Jeff Jarrett match was pretty good. The Yoko match was okay, I guess but skippable, IMHO.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jul 2, 2024 15:59:29 GMT -5
Bashed in the USA, which I revisited last night, is certainly a good name for a tape, so I give Coliseum 10 out of 10 for marketing. Mr. Perfect hosts the tape, and he will discuss his stamp collection. I did like how some Coliseum segments showed us another side to the wrestlers. The Big Boss Man battles Razor Ramon in a reasonably entertaining bout, but it felt a little like they lacked chemistry. At least we got a conclusive win as Ramon pinned Boss Man, albeit with his feet on the ropes. Tatanka & High Energy battle Rick Martel & Money Inc. This has, erm, a high energy to it (sorry) as an arrogant model, a rich heel and a taxman are heels you love to hate. IRS pins Koko for the win. A profile of Shawn Michaels featured 3 of his matches: against Kamala, Skinner, and Virgil. Michaels and Kamala battle to a double count out in a surprisingly solid bout; in a rare heel-vs-heel encounter, Michaels and Skinner haved a good bout, which I wish had went longer (Michaels wins via pinfall); and Michaels beats Virgil via pinfall, those two had some good chemistry. I like battle royals, mainly for the intrigue of not knowing who’s gonna go at it early on, and the chance to see heel vs heel scraps. We have a 40-man battle royal, which includes some enhancement talent. Tatanka survives a triple-team by IRS and the Beverly Brothers to win. Incidentally, I never understood it when a heel and a heel tag team would go after the babyface. Surely, logically if IRS and the Beverlys had eliminated Tatanka, then the Beverlys would have turned on IRS? Wouldn’t it have made tactical sense for IRS and Tatanka to become strange bedfellows and eliminate the tag team threat first? It reminded me of the 1988 Royal Rumble, where Butch Reed and the Hart Foundation went to town on Tito Santana. Reed gave Bret and Neidhart a high-five during their attack on Santana. Erm, Butch, you do realise that if you help them eliminate Santana, they, as a tag team, will turn their attention to you? Even as a kid, WWF logic made no sense at times… In a fascinating segment, Bret Hart showcases his artistic skills and does some sketches. Bret Hart defended his IC Championship against Rick Martel. For whatever reason, I never felt these two managed to have any chemistry (another match of theirs featured on a Coliseum tape). The same applied here. Bret wins via DQ after Shawn Michaels interferes. The Beverly Brothers beat the Natural Disasters via count-out in a match I forgot the minute it ended. We end with Undertaker vs. Yokozuna (pre-WM IX). It lasted minutes and Undertaker wins via DQ after Yokozuna uses the salt bucket. It’s hard to recommend this one. The Shawn Michael profile just about makes it worthwhile, and if battle royals are your thing, then that’s a bonus. Everything else is merely okay or avoidable, but those bouts failed to live up to my expectations. I watched this last year, I believe it was. thought this tape was okay. Some matches worth skipping but a few fun ones, if you know where to hit the fast forward button. I wonder if Mr. Perfect is really into collecting stamps (which would be cool) or if it's a kayfabe thing they did just for the tape for whatever reason.
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