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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 14, 2018 9:10:48 GMT -5
Too bad about the poor printing. I can’t imagine there is much demand for another superior version.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 14, 2018 9:24:18 GMT -5
A wonderful story, Roquefort Raider , and one of the reasons I enjoy this annual thread and others like it. We get to hear about others' favorites without worrying about how "good" any of them has to be. For me the personal associations we bring to any work of art, highbrow or low, are what give it its power and make reading about them that much more meaningful. This also hit home with me as a Norse mythology lover since my early days and the son-in-law of a Wagner devotee who could sing -- in a manner of speaking -- all of his operas from memory. He loved the Ring and we talked about is love of it many times. He was an aeronautical engineer, with all of an engineer's typical quirks, including a reserved emotional side, but when it came to Wagner, his artistic side glowed through. One of my fondest memories of him is the time he told me about finally being able to get a standing-room ticket to see Tristan und Isolde at the old Met, maybe in 1936 or so. He told me that he wept while watching it. An astonishing revelation coming from him and further proof of the overwhelming power of art. That is so cool, Prince Hal! I never saw my dad cry, but Mom once told me she had caught him red-handed (or wet cheeked) once, in the middle of the night, listening to Parsifal (with his headphones on so as not to wake us up). I think he and your father-in-law might have had a few interesting conversations! Art can indeed be overwhelming, and for all that I am personally a graphic arts person, I believe that nothing can move us so deeply as music. I'm not much of a "cryer" myself -- you know, good ol' British stiff upper lip and all that, what? But I must say that music moves me to...well, moistened eyes, if not actual tears, on a semi-regular basis. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 14, 2018 9:29:27 GMT -5
That is so cool, Prince Hal! I never saw my dad cry, but Mom once told me she had caught him red-handed (or wet cheeked) once, in the middle of the night, listening to Parsifal (with his headphones on so as not to wake us up). I think he and your father-in-law might have had a few interesting conversations! Art can indeed be overwhelming, and for all that I am personally a graphic arts person, I believe that nothing can move us so deeply as music. I'm not much of a "cryer" myself -- you know, good ol' British stiff upper lip and all that, what? But I must say that music moves me to...well, moistened eyes, if not actual tears, on a semi-regular basis. Although of Gallic stock, I'm also a very dry eyed person. I view a stiff upper lip as a virtue, and in most circumstances that would warrant a few tears I usually pass as a heartless fellow for my Saharan lack of facial moisture. But I will admit this: I am unable to sing Amsterdam aloud without bawling. Music just gets to me! (Maybe it's genetic?) |
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 14, 2018 9:35:48 GMT -5
Roquefort Raider and Confessor , own that emotion!  No shame there. For me, music does it, but theatre and poetry do, too. Can't watch the finale of Act One in Sondheim's Sunday in the Park with George without the tears rolling down. Sometimes just watching a performer sing in concert does it. Yvonne singing "La Marseillaise" in Casablanca? Grab the hanky. And forget the climax of The Winter's Tale... that leaves me wet-eyed every time, too. Good for the soul to let the tears loose every so often! I am mostly Irish, though. YMMV.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 9:36:27 GMT -5
I'm not participating this event -- but, I can offer my perspectives:
Cei-U! -- MGM's Marvelous Wizard of Oz, is a no-brainer and surprise to see this entry in the first day of this annual event of which he's in charge of.
Phil Maurice -- Captain Video, is unique choice and I had very limited exposure of this series and I don't have much memory of.
brutalis -- Blade Runner, same with Captain Video.
Confessor -- The Three Musketeers, Excellent Pick and a popular one indeed.
shaxper -- Batman: Gotham by Gaslight, I have no clue and reason that I liked his post is his excellent write up and thinking of reading it next year.
taxidriver1980 -- Rainbow, I have no understanding of this at all; and it's has an impact on taxidriver1980's life and has special meaning to him and it's shows.
Crimebuster -- Unexpected #217 - "Dear Senator", no clue here and an interesting choice here.
DubipR -- The Infinite Horizon, Same as Crimebuster
Slam_Bradley -- The Phantom by Don Newton (Charlton Comics), Excellent Pick and well written by Slam.
thwhtguardian -- Superman Adventures, Great Series and I read my friend's books back then and a nice pick by him.
M. W. Gallaher -- The Phantom, another winner and I loved Jim Aparo work on this!
Reptisaurus! -- Marvel Team-Up # 74, Total Surprise by me and I do remember Stan Lee on Saturday Night Live, and this selection took me by TOTAL SURPRISE here.
hondobrode -- Marvel Super Special – Kiss, Nice Pick here and Kiss is pretty much a mainstream venture and was a highly popular group back then and still being talked today.
mrp -- Creepshow GN by Stephen King & Bernie Wrightson; New American Library; 1982, Excellent Selection and the art of Bernie and Stephen King can't go wrong here.
Prince Hal -- Batman: The Golden Streets of Gotham (2003), I'm not familiar with this and I need to visit this sometimes next year! ... Nice Write Up by Prince Hal.
EdoBosnar -- Star Wars #38 (August 1980), Sad to say this ... I did not read any Star Wars Comics and yet I love the Movies.
Roquefort Raider -- Thor #295-299, I did not read this at all ... Nice write up RR and need to revisit this next year.
Farrar -- Tarzan, Dark Horse, 1996 series, So many Tarzan Books ... it's makes my head spin! ... I need to read this next year.
Icctrombone -- Shadowman # 19 Aerosmith, I've very little information on Aerosmith and I just have no clue what he is conveying here. Sorry Icc.
foxley -- "The Doomsday Book", Detective Comics #572 (DC, 1987), Nice Pick Foxley.
codystarbuck -- Another OZ Selection, and I have no clue what to do with this and it's has a big impact on Cody's life and I have to understand that.
I will try to do the next day -- Same format and offer my input of these selections of the 12th Day here. Good Job Everyone!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 9:46:30 GMT -5
Hiya, Mecha, just to let you know that yours truly is a he, not a she. Thanks for the words. ;-)
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 14, 2018 9:57:37 GMT -5
A word of warning: Some of you have made selections that stretch the definition of "adaptation" as I'm defining it to the breaking point.
Dubip: If it doesn't share the same setting and characters as the source material, Infinite Horizon is not an adaptation of The Odyssey.
Prince Hal: If there are no real world figures in Batman: The Golden Streets of Gotham and they are not the focus of the story, then it does not, alas, pass muster.
I'm not going to disqualify either entry (since I'm not convinced I had made things clear in the Advance Warning thread) BUT any further breaches of these rules WILL be.
Cei-U!
Behave yourselves!
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 14, 2018 10:07:13 GMT -5
A word of warning: Some of you have made selections that stretch the definition of "adaptation" as I'm defining it to the breaking point.
Dubip: If it doesn't share the same setting and characters as the source material, Infinite Horizon is not an adaptation of The Odyssey.
Prince Hal: If there are no real world figures in Batman: The Golden Streets of Gotham and they are not the focus of the story, then it does not, alas, pass muster.
I'm not going to disqualify either entry (since I'm not convinced I had made things clear in the Advance Warning thread) BUT any further breaches of these rules WILL be.
Cei-U!
Behave yourselves! No one who was actually involved is named, so I was stretching things. My fault; I read and reread the criteria and thought the treatment of a historic event would count, but I can see where it doesn't. I think -- and I may be speaking for Dubip here, too -- we went for fictionalized versions of events or stories. And since mine was set in Gotham City as opposed to NYC, and no real person makes even a cameo, it's more of an alternate world story. Apologies. I had no intention of pushing the envelope. Happy to switch it out if that's best for the event, Kurt. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 10:13:53 GMT -5
Hiya, Mecha, just to let you know that yours truly is a he, not a she. Thanks for the words. ;-) |
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 14, 2018 10:17:27 GMT -5
Happy to switch it out if that's best for the event, Kurt. No need, Hal, but thanks for offering. Cei-U! It's all good! |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 14, 2018 10:24:10 GMT -5
I remember picking up a Phantom book drawn by Aparo. Just amazing stuff. IMHO, his artwork was never better than in this series and the early BaB. Does anyone know if these issues have been collected? Yes, Aparo's issues have been collected in "Jim Aparo's Complete The Phantom" by Hermes Press (ISBN-13: 978-1613451106). Reviews said the reproduction was sub-par--presumably scans of the usually poor original Charlton printing--so I never picked up a copy myself, since I have the originals. I haven't picked up any books by Hermes Press but they are pretty regularly viewed as having awful production and reproduction values. |
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Post by DubipR on Dec 14, 2018 11:46:25 GMT -5
A word of warning: Some of you have made selections that stretch the definition of "adaptation" as I'm defining it to the breaking point.
Dubip: If it doesn't share the same setting and characters as the source material, Infinite Horizon is not an adaptation of The Odyssey.
Prince Hal: If there are no real world figures in Batman: The Golden Streets of Gotham and they are not the focus of the story, then it does not, alas, pass muster.
I'm not going to disqualify either entry (since I'm not convinced I had made things clear in the Advance Warning thread) BUT any further breaches of these rules WILL be.
Cei-U!
Behave yourselves! Then I'm worried about two more of my entries then.. can I confer with you on a ruling via PM? |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 14, 2018 15:16:54 GMT -5
A word of warning: Some of you have made selections that stretch the definition of "adaptation" as I'm defining it to the breaking point.
Dubip: If it doesn't share the same setting and characters as the source material, Infinite Horizon is not an adaptation of The Odyssey.
Prince Hal: If there are no real world figures in Batman: The Golden Streets of Gotham and they are not the focus of the story, then it does not, alas, pass muster.
I'm not going to disqualify either entry (since I'm not convinced I had made things clear in the Advance Warning thread) BUT any further breaches of these rules WILL be.
Cei-U!
Behave yourselves! I've never read it, so I could be off base but to me Infinite Horizon sounds like an adaptation of the Odyssey in the same way as the film O! Brother Where Art Thou was. Sure, the characters were different, and elements of the plot altered but the bones of story and the themes were the same. |
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Dec 14, 2018 20:54:19 GMT -5
Well I'm going to try this, apologies in advance Kurt if I'm bending the definition too far. Having read a lot of the aove I reckon this qualifies...but I am a little biased. My first entry, though truth be told probably close to my heart than some to come is The Cursed Earth 2000AD 61-85 (1978) IPC Magazines adapting Roger Zelazny's Damnation Alley (loosely) 14 years old and 2000AD is just starting to find it's way after its first year. It's been fine but then this happens. Mills and McMahon and Bolland take a minor SF novel I had vaguely been aware of and turn it into the first major multi part story for old Stony Face. Bikers, Burgers, rock eating aliens, and an insane killer TRex.  |
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Post by DubipR on Dec 14, 2018 21:04:57 GMT -5
A word of warning: Some of you have made selections that stretch the definition of "adaptation" as I'm defining it to the breaking point.
Dubip: If it doesn't share the same setting and characters as the source material, Infinite Horizon is not an adaptation of The Odyssey.
Prince Hal: If there are no real world figures in Batman: The Golden Streets of Gotham and they are not the focus of the story, then it does not, alas, pass muster.
I'm not going to disqualify either entry (since I'm not convinced I had made things clear in the Advance Warning thread) BUT any further breaches of these rules WILL be.
Cei-U!
Behave yourselves! No one who was actually involved is named, so I was stretching things. My fault; I read and reread the criteria and thought the treatment of a historic event would count, but I can see where it doesn't. I think -- and I may be speaking for Dubip here, too -- we went for fictionalized versions of events or stories. And since mine was set in Gotham City as opposed to NYC, and no real person makes even a cameo, it's more of an alternate world story. Apologies. I had no intention of pushing the envelope. Happy to switch it out if that's best for the event, Kurt. I say push the envelope. They're adaptations for a reason; if only the story structure is there based on a novel, events or whatever, only with a slight spin. Something like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, to me, isn't an adaptation. It's an appropriation of characters. Did Nemo ever fight martians in the books? No. Did Mina Harker meet Harry Potter in the books, not at all. That's why I didn't choose them. I have 3 upcoming picks that are adaptations taken from the source material, just with a spin on them; different cities, different worlds. The names are different, but the themes of the material are there. That's an adaptation... at least to me. If you're talking pure adaptation, then half of Day 1 and Day 2's selections wouldn't be considered.... Also, these are our choices. Why shouldn't they be considered what they are? Nothing should be disqualified |
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No shame there.
