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Post by berkley on Oct 5, 2018 21:22:21 GMT -5
I go more by the creator so for example I followed Paul Gulacy's run on Catwoman a few years ago. However, I'm one of those people who not only doesn't see any appeal in Harley Quinn but even feels some repulsion for the character, so I probably wouldn't read a HQ series even if a favourite creator were working on it.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Oct 9, 2018 18:45:56 GMT -5
The other two that come to mind are North/Henderson's "Squirrel Girl" and Perez's "Wonder Woman" run.[/quote] Perez's Wonder Woman was quite a while back though. I haven't read Squirrel Girl... isn't it more of a parody?
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Post by The Captain on Oct 10, 2018 9:17:32 GMT -5
The other two that come to mind are North/Henderson's "Squirrel Girl" and Perez's "Wonder Woman" run. Perez's Wonder Woman was quite a while back though. I haven't read Squirrel Girl... isn't it more of a parody? I don't think Squirrel Girl is a "parody" so much as it is a "light-hearted, doesn't take itself too seriously, uses familiar characters in ridiculous situations" kind of book. It's not my cup of tea (especially the uber-cartoony artwork), but it's not beholden to continuity, isn't grim and gritty, and is all-ages appropriate, which makes it a great starting point for younger readers, especially girls who aren't necessarily going to be drawn to the traditional cape and cowl superheroes.
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Post by rberman on Oct 10, 2018 9:58:33 GMT -5
Perez's Wonder Woman was quite a while back though. I haven't read Squirrel Girl... isn't it more of a parody? I don't think Squirrel Girl is a "parody" so much as it is a "light-hearted, doesn't take itself too seriously, uses familiar characters in ridiculous situations" kind of book. It's not my cup of tea (especially the uber-cartoony artwork), but it's not beholden to continuity, isn't grim and gritty, and is all-ages appropriate, which makes it a great starting point for younger readers, especially girls who aren't necessarily going to be drawn to the traditional cape and cowl superheroes. Both Squirrel Girl and Ms. Marvel are lighthearted and accessible while still pulling in a wide variety of characters from continuity: Wolverine, Galactus, Doctor Doom, Loki, Captain Marvel, Kraven the Hunter, Howard the Duck, Lockjaw, Jane Thor, etc.
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Post by badwolf on Oct 19, 2018 9:27:23 GMT -5
I go more by the creator so for example I followed Paul Gulacy's run on Catwoman a few years ago. However, I'm one of those people who not only doesn't see any appeal in Harley Quinn but even feels some repulsion for the character, so I probably wouldn't read a HQ series even if a favourite creator were working on it. Same. I did buy Bruce Timm's Harley & Ivy, but it was more for the Ivy half...
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Post by maskedavenger on Oct 20, 2018 19:39:15 GMT -5
I just see her as DC's Deadpool. Just have her be whatever the writers wants her to be.
I recommend Karl Kesal's run on Harley Quinn. She definitely had more of a purpose there. I thought that with her psychology background that they would delve into that aspect of the character more.
As for Kamala and Squirrel Girl, I find those two a lot more annoying than Harley Quinn.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 20, 2018 19:47:20 GMT -5
Interesting comments on her appeal. I have only ever collected a few series that starred Female leads. Birds of Prey is my favorite and I collected the Female Manhunter series from the early 90's. Harley is not my cup of tea, though. I find that it's hard to collect the majority of Big 2 female characters, because after not too long, there's a storyline/cover/etc that makes you feel like you have to explain why you're reading it, and not just ogling ridiculously proportioned women.
That generally leaves you with teenaged characters, which can been good (like Gotham Academy) but sometimes are too CW for me. Ms. Marvel has so far (thankfully) been the exception, but most others, not so much. Not sure why, since there's tons of good stuff with female leads outside the big 2. I didn't 't feel that way with the BOP series. It was a buddy book and didn't lean on the ogling thing until maybe when when Ed Benes did the art. It went back to normal after that run.
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Post by berkley on Oct 21, 2018 3:40:28 GMT -5
I go more by the creator so for example I followed Paul Gulacy's run on Catwoman a few years ago. However, I'm one of those people who not only doesn't see any appeal in Harley Quinn but even feels some repulsion for the character, so I probably wouldn't read a HQ series even if a favourite creator were working on it. Same. I did buy Bruce Timm's Harley & Ivy, but it was more for the Ivy half... Haven't seen that comic and not a great fan of Timm's stuff in general, but coincidentally I too feel an irrational liking for the Poison Ivy character - irrational because based on practically nothing, since I can't think of a single specific story or scene that might be at the root of this vaguely positive feeling. My guess is that I must have happened to see her drawn by artists that I like or in a way that I like, even though I can't bring any particular images to mind.
But as far as favourite female characters go, there are tons I'd love to read if only they were written and drawn in a way that appealed to me - same for male characters, for that matter. But I'm too out of touch with the current superhero-aesthetic, words and pictures, for this to be likely to happen. And anyway, I suppose this is getting away from the thread subject.
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Post by badwolf on Oct 21, 2018 16:07:24 GMT -5
Same. I did buy Bruce Timm's Harley & Ivy, but it was more for the Ivy half... Haven't seen that comic and not a great fan of Timm's stuff in general, but coincidentally I too feel an irrational liking for the Poison Ivy character - irrational because based on practically nothing, since I can't think of a single specific story or scene that might be at the root of this vaguely positive feeling. My guess is that I must have happened to see her drawn by artists that I like or in a way that I like, even though I can't bring any particular images to mind.
But as far as favourite female characters go, there are tons I'd love to read if only they were written and drawn in a way that appealed to me - same for male characters, for that matter. But I'm too out of touch with the current superhero-aesthetic, words and pictures, for this to be likely to happen. And anyway, I suppose this is getting away from the thread subject.
Her environmentalist aspect appeals to me, even though she only really likes plants.
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