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Post by brutalis on Jul 17, 2018 13:41:10 GMT -5
Not sure how they can be successful if you can't find them. 6 Wal-Marts all within 10 miles of my home and work with NONE of them carrying the DC 100 Pagers. Not on the aisle with the Pokemon cards? Perhaps your Wal-Marts don't have a space rental agreement from that particular impulse buy distributor. Checked with the managers and they didn't even know what I was talking about. So yes, it is most likely due to the lousy distribution system here in Phoenix. |
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Post by rberman on Jul 17, 2018 13:46:51 GMT -5
Not on the aisle with the Pokemon cards? Perhaps your Wal-Marts don't have a space rental agreement from that particular impulse buy distributor. Checked with the managers and they didn't even know what I was talking about. So yes, it is most likely due to the lousy distribution system here in Phoenix. The Wal-Mart managers may not actually pay much attention to the merchandise that they are not responsible for, such as the CCG cards and other knick-knacks on the shelves operated by third party stockers who just rent space near the cash register at Wal-Mart. I happened to be in my local Wal-Mart when the third party guys were doing their restocking, and they directed me to the right place. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 17, 2018 13:50:18 GMT -5
I picked up the Batman issue and I was pretty underwhelmed. The new story was pretty good but the other included just seemed odd. I had thought these would include full or at least nearly full stories but instead there were just single issues; the first issue of Hush, one of Nightwing and a Harley issue. I really don't think single issues are what the casual audience is looking for so I can't see this project being all that successful. I wondered about this when I saw the descriptions. Not that there is much that would get me to go into a damn Walmart unless it's absolutely necessary. But I don't see how this can work if the stories aren't one-and-dones. |
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Post by rberman on Jul 17, 2018 14:03:02 GMT -5
I picked up the Batman issue and I was pretty underwhelmed. The new story was pretty good but the other included just seemed odd. I had thought these would include full or at least nearly full stories but instead there were just single issues; the first issue of Hush, one of Nightwing and a Harley issue. I really don't think single issues are what the casual audience is looking for so I can't see this project being all that successful. I wondered about this when I saw the descriptions. Not that there is much that would get me to go into a damn Walmart unless it's absolutely necessary. But I don't see how this can work if the stories aren't one-and-dones. That's the tricky part, since a one-and-done of several issues length is essentially a trade paperback, but for only $5 instead of $20. Now that would be shooting themselves in the foot. It would be better to have mostly stand-alone stories, but who knows how to write those these days? My kids meanwhile are perfectly happy reading Tiny Titans which have story lengths of between 1 and 6 pages. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 17, 2018 19:01:33 GMT -5
I assume the idea is if they're giving you the 5 first issues in the 1st 100 pager.. you get 5 2nd issues in the next one... that's how the manga mags and things like 2000 AD work... I'm picturing it an oversized anthology.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 19:15:41 GMT -5
I assume the idea is if they're giving you the 5 first issues in the 1st 100 pager.. you get 5 2nd issues in the next one... that's how the manga mags and things like 2000 AD work... I'm picturing it an oversized anthology. Having read 3 of the 4, that's exactly how it works. Justice League for example had a complete done in one Wonder Woman story but the next issue blurb after the story mentions another Wonder Woman story next issue. Then it gives you Justice League #1, Flash #1 and Aquaman #1 from the new52 era with a blurb at the end of the issue to look for #2 the third week of July. Superman has a new Superman story that is part 1 (of 2) and a blurb after the story to look for the conclusion next week in the third week of July then gives you Superman/Batman #1 (from the early 2000s), Green Lantern #1 (the 2005 Geoff Johns series) and Terrifics #1, each with a blurb to get part 2 the third week of July at the end. Batman gives you part 1 of a new Batman story (again of 2, with a not to the conclusion next issue), then does the first part of Hush (Batman 608). and Nightwing #1 and Harley Quinn #1 from the new52 era, each with a blurb to get the next part in the next Batman Giant. Pretty much how newsstand comics used to do the next issue blurb at the end, but these have it after each story in the anthology. Each also gives you a pretty wide sampling of DC fare and provides a bunch of different characters to introduce readers to. They are not standalone done in ones, but neither were comics on the newsstands through most of the Bronze Age forward. And essentially 4 comics for $5 is a better price than you are going to get anywhere shy of a bargain bin. Will it work? I have no freaking clue, but I applaud the effort. However, it seems fans want to torpedo anything that doesn't fit their world view before giving it a chance these days especially if it doesn't cater to them and kiss their butts pandering to them and fawning over them for their years of devotion to a property because their spending money on that should entitle them to that treatment right? Yeah, no. The main reason this might not succeed is because those "fans" and comic retailers are buying these up to flip on ebay before they can ever reach their intended audience, which is just another example of self-destructive behavior within fandom these days that is killing any chance of growth for comics in general. -M |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 17, 2018 19:50:08 GMT -5
I assume the idea is if they're giving you the 5 first issues in the 1st 100 pager.. you get 5 2nd issues in the next one... that's how the manga mags and things like 2000 AD work... I'm picturing it an oversized anthology. Having read 3 of the 4, that's exactly how it works. Justice League for example had a complete done in one Wonder Woman story but the next issue blurb after the story mentions another Wonder Woman story next issue. Then it gives you Justice League #1, Flash #1 and Aquaman #1 from the new52 era with a blurb at the end of the issue to look for #2 the third week of July. Superman has a new Superman story that is part 1 (of 2) and a blurb after the story to look for the conclusion next week in the third week of July then gives you Superman/Batman #1 (from the early 2000s), Green Lantern #1 (the 2005 Geoff Johns series) and Terrifics #1, each with a blurb to get part 2 the third week of July at the end. Batman gives you part 1 of a new Batman story (again of 2, with a not to the conclusion next issue), then does the first part of Hush (Batman 608). and Nightwing #1 and Harley Quinn #1 from the new52 era, each with a blurb to get the next part in the next Batman Giant. Pretty much how newsstand comics used to do the next issue blurb at the end, but these have it after each story in the anthology. Each also gives you a pretty wide sampling of DC fare and provides a bunch of different characters to introduce readers to. They are not standalone done in ones, but neither were comics on the newsstands through most of the Bronze Age forward. And essentially 4 comics for $5 is a better price than you are going to get anywhere shy of a bargain bin. Will it work? I have no freaking clue, but I applaud the effort. However, it seems fans want to torpedo anything that doesn't fit their world view before giving it a chance these days especially if it doesn't cater to them and kiss their butts pandering to them and fawning over them for their years of devotion to a property because their spending money on that should entitle them to that treatment right? Yeah, no. The main reason this might not succeed is because those "fans" and comic retailers are buying these up to flip on ebay before they can ever reach their intended audience, which is just another example of self-destructive behavior within fandom these days that is killing any chance of growth for comics in general. -M I definitely applaud the effort to reach new audiences...but it's just that in my experience casual fans don't want part one of a story, they want the whole story. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 17, 2018 20:02:02 GMT -5
Having read 3 of the 4, that's exactly how it works. Justice League for example had a complete done in one Wonder Woman story but the next issue blurb after the story mentions another Wonder Woman story next issue. Then it gives you Justice League #1, Flash #1 and Aquaman #1 from the new52 era with a blurb at the end of the issue to look for #2 the third week of July. Superman has a new Superman story that is part 1 (of 2) and a blurb after the story to look for the conclusion next week in the third week of July then gives you Superman/Batman #1 (from the early 2000s), Green Lantern #1 (the 2005 Geoff Johns series) and Terrifics #1, each with a blurb to get part 2 the third week of July at the end. Batman gives you part 1 of a new Batman story (again of 2, with a not to the conclusion next issue), then does the first part of Hush (Batman 608). and Nightwing #1 and Harley Quinn #1 from the new52 era, each with a blurb to get the next part in the next Batman Giant. Pretty much how newsstand comics used to do the next issue blurb at the end, but these have it after each story in the anthology. Each also gives you a pretty wide sampling of DC fare and provides a bunch of different characters to introduce readers to. They are not standalone done in ones, but neither were comics on the newsstands through most of the Bronze Age forward. And essentially 4 comics for $5 is a better price than you are going to get anywhere shy of a bargain bin. Will it work? I have no freaking clue, but I applaud the effort. However, it seems fans want to torpedo anything that doesn't fit their world view before giving it a chance these days especially if it doesn't cater to them and kiss their butts pandering to them and fawning over them for their years of devotion to a property because their spending money on that should entitle them to that treatment right? Yeah, no. The main reason this might not succeed is because those "fans" and comic retailers are buying these up to flip on ebay before they can ever reach their intended audience, which is just another example of self-destructive behavior within fandom these days that is killing any chance of growth for comics in general. -M I definitely applaud the effort to reach new audiences...but it's just that in my experience casual fans don't want part one of a story, they want the whole story. Bingo! I’m not trying to torpedo anything. I’m all for anything that gets funnybooks into people's grubby mitts. I just don’t see this as being a plan that’s well thought out to appeal to casual readers. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 21:26:56 GMT -5
I am not sure it will work in this day and age, but it worked on newsstands throughout the 70s and 80s when done in one stories were the exception not the rule and there were plenty of casual readers then. Again, it's a different age, but most genre entertainment outside movies (tv, novels, video games, and even genre movies now) are serialized and not truly done in one and they manage to attract casual audiences all the time. So I am not sure not being done in one is as big a deal breaker as people seem to think, especially if customers know where and when to seek out the next installment. Also of note, there are ads within each story for the trades to get the whole story with the comic shop locator (and most causal readers will know how to use the magic box to get to Amazon or Wal Mart.com which carries many of the trades) so if someone reads the installment and wants the rest they are given the necessary knowledge to do so without having to wait for the next issue (except for the original content in each issue). For example... this ad is in the middle of the reprint of JL #1...  and both of these ads appear in the middle of the reprint of Aquaman #1..   so it's basically, hey here's some cool DC stuff, if you like it, the next installment drops on such and such date at Wal Mart where you got this, and if you don't want to wait, here's the full deal you can order online or find wherever comics are sold (and the Comic Shiop locator helps those who don;t know that if there is a local shop, whichis an issue in many rural areas I know). Which is pretty much how most media is marketed today. Here's a sample, more drops on x and if you want the full version you can order it here...and that seems to work for a mass casual audience in other things than comics, so why not take a shot at it with comics. That's pretty much how the mass market works in the 21st century, it's just comic fans still operate on a 20th century market model because they follow a niche product only available in specialty shops. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 21:32:08 GMT -5
And I don't think everyone is trying to torpedo it, but there is a large vocal contingent of comic fans who are acting like obsessed jilted lovers, if I can't have my comics exclusively the way I want, then no one can have them any time the publishers reach out for a larger mass audience and don't cater to the whims of the hardcore fan base, and would rather see the publishers fail than succeed in a different way than the one they prefer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2018 19:12:29 GMT -5
Welp found the Teen Titans 100 Page Giant today. We were down Dayton way this afternoon and stopped in at a Wal*Mart down there and they had 1 copy of The Teen Titans issue left. Now they have none.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 16:14:53 GMT -5
Second issues of Superman and Justice League are out. I found them today. Batman and Titans #2 will be out in 2 weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 22:29:15 GMT -5
Here are the covers for the second issues I picked up today after the con...  -M |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 8, 2018 22:33:09 GMT -5
I tried quickly and failed, so I'll just ask.. do the #2s have the 2nd issues from the #1s in them, or did they use other content? I could see either way given the trade advertising that is within.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 22:49:43 GMT -5
I tried quickly and failed, so I'll just ask.. do the #2s have the 2nd issues from the #1s in them, or did they use other content? I could see either way given the trade advertising that is within. Justice League 100 Page Giant had a new one off Wonder Woman story and then the 2nd issue of Justice League, Flash and Aquaman from the new52 runs that continue from the #1 issues in the first 100 page giant. Each has a recap page before the story starts of what happened in the previous issue and a next issue blurb for the third issue of each series. I haven't cracked open Superman #2 yet to read, but I flipped through it and it is part 2 of the original story started in #1, and Terrifics #2, GL #2 and Superman/Batman #2 following form the #1s in the first 100 page giant. Also with recap pages before the issue and next issue blurbs for the next issue of each series after it. -M |
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