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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 26, 2018 9:58:23 GMT -5
I hope these will be a big success! Maybe as with some of the European republishers they might put in some 'features' pages with puzzles and facts and stuff like that, crafts that don't involve cutting up the comic like a basic drawing lesson, fan art... and maybe they could squeeze in a third page Super Turtle by Kieth Giffen or someone else? Value for money!  |
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Post by brutalis on Jun 26, 2018 13:09:33 GMT -5
If this should catch on I would like to see DC go deep into their history. They have a wealth of stuff to select from. How about an alternating monthly where each month spotlights specialty series? Doing Westerns one month, Sword and Sorcery one month, Horror one month, Science Fiction/Fantasy one month. Humor one month. This way you can lead off with classic stuff like Jonah Hex, Warlord, Swamp Thing, Adam Strange, Scooby Doo which would catch people's attention and then fill the rest up with older things that haven't been seen in awhile by the newer readers. People might read these types of things as part of a greater whole rather than paying out for Omni's or Trades. Giving them a taste of the different types of comics that DC has done over the years would encourage some diversity and sales.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 17:36:40 GMT -5
Right now most of the reprint material is form the new52 or Rebirth era (I think Johns Teen Titans being the lone exception and that because it is probably the series most closely resembling the line up of the Young Justice animated series that will be a part of the DC streaming service (seasons 1 and 2 on Netflix now I believe). The new material is only 12 page stories in each, plus 3-4 reprints, so that leaves a lot of pages for ads, activities, articles or what not if they are 100 page giants.
As for waiting for trade, I don;t see the average Wal*Mart customer even knowing what the term trade waiting means, as that is a very specific term to hardcore fans and regular customers of the comic shop culture (either current or past). Those hardcore customers may trade wait on the material, but these books aren't designed to get their dollars, they are designed to get the dollars of people who would never set foot in a comic shop to begin with because either a) there are no comic shops in their areas (which is true of large swaths of rural America) or b) they aren't hardcore fans already and have no desire to be and just want some stories featuring these characters to read or to buy for their kids. Whether the hardcore wednesday warrior customer base trade waits or not is irrelevant to the success of these books.
What is sad is the response of some lcs retailers to this initiative. Some are planning on trying to go to the Wal*Marts and buying up all the copies and reselling them at a profit in the direct market only (to which I say, I hope you fail badly, spend all your operating capital funding these books and making Wal*Mart money and not be able to flip them and thus have no money to pay your Diamond bill and be forced to close up shop because you're being a dick). Others plan on blackballing second tier creators involved and cut orders on books they do as punishment (but not Tom King or Brian Bendis because they need sales from those creators' books) for participating in the Wal*Mart initiative (to which I hope their regular customers take their business to a different comic shop to get what they like that these owners won't order because again,they are being dicks).
If they were smart and they have a local Wal*Mart they would use this as a marketing opportunity and run ads (maybe to be placed in Sunday papers next to the Wal*Mart circular, maybe on the radio, maybe putting flyers on the windshields of cars at the local Wal*Mart, etc.) that basically use these 100 page giants as a chance to get the word out about their ships-hey did you like the Superman and Batman issues you read form Wal*Mart. Love the Terrifics you aw in those books, come to Blah Blah Blah Comics located at xxxx Main Street, Wherever, USA to find a full range of products featuring more Superman, Batman, Justice League and more. Get the current Terrifics issue and hey, maybe try out some other super-heroes and comics you like. Anyone bringing in their Wal*Mart 100 Page giant will receive 10% off their first purchase. You know, actually grow their business rather than trying to be whining bullies protecting their shrinking market size because they run a dinosaur model business that sells a dinosaur of a format media product that the average non-hardcore Wednesday Warrior customer knows nothing about and wouldn't otherwise seek out even if they did even if they loved super-heroes and comic characters in other mediums. But that requires work ethic and business and marketing acumen, something comic book store owners seem to lack all to often because they are fans creating dens for their tribes rather than business men in many cases.
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Post by rberman on Jun 26, 2018 17:45:14 GMT -5
What is sad is the response of some lcs retailers to this initiative. Some are planning on trying to go to the Wal*Marts and buying up all the copies and reselling them at a profit in the direct market only (to which I say, I hope you fail badly, spend all your operating capital funding these books and making Wal*Mart money and not be able to flip them and thus have no money to pay your Diamond bill and be forced to close up shop because you're being a dick). Others plan on blackballing second tier creators involved and cut orders on books they do as punishment (but not Tom King or Brian Bendis because they need sales from those creators' books) for participating in the Wal*Mart initiative (to which I hope their regular customers take their business to a different comic shop to get what they like that these owners won't order because again,they are being dicks). Wow, that seems like a really short-sighted response of LCS owners to a strategy which aspires to improve LCS sales ultimately, if new consumers do get hooked. But if LCS do things like that, the rational response from DC will just be to increase the print runs. They still win if the inventory sells, regardless of who buys it, as long as they're not selling below cost as a marketing loss leader to grow the fan base. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 27, 2018 21:43:01 GMT -5
That sort of response makes no sense.. the nature of the material in these is such that, if they do well, they'll only create new customers of comic book stores, not less. There isn't a single regular shop-goer that's going to say 'well look at that, there are 2 comics every 2 weeks at Wal-Mart, that's good enough for me!'
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 20:37:04 GMT -5
 Got the last copies of Batman and the Justice League. No Teen Titans or Superman to be had. I’ll probably hit up another Wal-Mart or two this week in hope of finding them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 22:03:34 GMT -5
Neither of the Wal Marts in town had them today. One had the standee, empty on one side and their stock of DC Rebirth 3 packs on the other but no 100 page giants. The other had some of the Rebirth 3 packs in a different DC standee (an old one) but no sign of the new standee or the 100 page giants.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 22:42:12 GMT -5
My friend got at Walmart yesterday and all the Batman and the Justice League were sold out and he got himself on the waiting list for additional copies of the Justice League for me to have. I hope to have mine in my hands in 2-3 weeks from now.
Selling quite well - I've may add here.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 2, 2018 0:26:35 GMT -5
I avoid Walmart like the plague. This won’t be the vaccination.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 3, 2018 12:46:06 GMT -5
The more digest collections, the better I say. Still very much in love with the Marvel/Archie ones even though they don't come out as often as I'd like. Think they stopped at Thor for now because I haven't seen the X-Men ones anywhere (or maybe they've been either flying off the shelves or just completely under preforming? IDK)
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 3, 2018 16:19:41 GMT -5
The more digest collections, the better I say. Still very much in love with the Marvel/Archie ones even though they don't come out as often as I'd like. Think they stopped at Thor for now because I haven't seen the X-Men ones anywhere (or maybe they've been either flying off the shelves or just completely under preforming? IDK) Thor was issue #3 of Marvel Comics Digest; #7 is in stores now - it's "Avengers featuring Ant-Man and the Wasp". I see them regularly in Safeway and Fred Meyer (Kroger) stores. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 3, 2018 16:58:55 GMT -5
The more digest collections, the better I say. Still very much in love with the Marvel/Archie ones even though they don't come out as often as I'd like. Think they stopped at Thor for now because I haven't seen the X-Men ones anywhere (or maybe they've been either flying off the shelves or just completely under preforming? IDK) Thor was issue #3 of Marvel Comics Digest; #7 is in stores now - it's "Avengers featuring Ant-Man and the Wasp". I see them regularly in Safeway and Fred Meyer (Kroger) stores. I noticed the Thanos one in Fred Meyer a few weeks back. I'm glad they're out there, but I can't read digests any more. Too small. |
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Post by Rob Allen on Jul 3, 2018 18:07:32 GMT -5
Thor was issue #3 of Marvel Comics Digest; #7 is in stores now - it's "Avengers featuring Ant-Man and the Wasp". I see them regularly in Safeway and Fred Meyer (Kroger) stores. I noticed the Thanos one in Fred Meyer a few weeks back. I'm glad they're out there, but I can't read digests any more. Too small. The Thanos one was #6. #5 was "Avengers featuring Black Panther". They try to synchronize the digests and the movies. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 3, 2018 19:39:56 GMT -5
Thor was issue #3 of Marvel Comics Digest; #7 is in stores now - it's "Avengers featuring Ant-Man and the Wasp". I see them regularly in Safeway and Fred Meyer (Kroger) stores. I noticed the Thanos one in Fred Meyer a few weeks back. I'm glad they're out there, but I can't read digests any more. Too small. I'm very tempted to make an "old person" joke, but those will probably come back to bite me in the ass when I turn 60.... IDK,You could always get a magnifying glass..... The only problem that I have with some "collected" paperback digests is how damn thick they are. Seriously, you could probably use some of them to remodel someone's house  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 22:14:26 GMT -5
So ebay flippers have these going for $20-$25 now and copies are hard to find in actual Walmarts. Walmart made their money, but so much for these reaching new audiences and being available as impulse buys as an affordable entry into comics. Bottom line, I refuse to buy these from secondary sellers at any price and am choosing not to buy anything at all, this book or otherwise, from sellers who are buying these up and flipping them whether on ebay or in their shops.
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