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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 0:41:55 GMT -5
News broke in the Hollywood Reporter earlier today. From Jim Lee: Some cover/promo art... Some may be minis, some OGN, depends what the creators what to do I guess. I was already looking forward to John Ridley's The Other History of the Dc Universe and some of these other books look interesting as well. I will likely check a bunch of these out in some format or another. -M
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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 9, 2018 11:49:16 GMT -5
Kelly Sue on Wonder Woman sounds like fun to me, so I'll be checking that out for sure.
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Post by Randle-El on Mar 9, 2018 11:54:19 GMT -5
I think this could potentially be interesting, and would like to check them out. But for me, the obvious is question is "How is this different from the Earth One line of OGNs?" Except for the implied "mature" content, which I guess translates into the possibility for more violence, profanity, and nudity, it seems to be pretty much the same concept as Earth One.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 9, 2018 12:20:43 GMT -5
I think this could potentially be interesting, and would like to check them out. But for me, the obvious is question is "How is this different from the Earth One line of OGNs?" Except for the implied "mature" content, which I guess translates into the possibility for more violence, profanity, and nudity, it seems to be pretty much the same concept as Earth One. I agree, it does seem very similar. Maybe they're not going to try and just do new origin stories, but actually write good non in continuity stuff? I'd be pretty happy with that if they're good. It could also be the 'Year one' imprint kinda failed, so they needed to change it up
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Post by rberman on Mar 9, 2018 12:27:09 GMT -5
Isn't a Frank Miller story in 2018 sorta like a Mort Weisinger story in 1985?
Who is to now as Frank Miller was to 1985?
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Post by mikelmidnight on Mar 9, 2018 12:32:05 GMT -5
Ridley's book is the only one that really seems to fit 'Black Label.'
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 9, 2018 12:43:23 GMT -5
Let's just hope it's better than the beer.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 9, 2018 14:01:22 GMT -5
Isn't a Frank Miller story in 2018 sorta like a Mort Weisinger story in 1985? Who is to now as Frank Miller was to 1985? A Weisinger story in '85 would have been interesting; I mean who knows what kind of things could have influenced him after spending ten years in the great beyond.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 15:33:47 GMT -5
I think this could potentially be interesting, and would like to check them out. But for me, the obvious is question is "How is this different from the Earth One line of OGNs?" Except for the implied "mature" content, which I guess translates into the possibility for more violence, profanity, and nudity, it seems to be pretty much the same concept as Earth One. Same here. My first thought it is a strange name to attach to an imprint. I would have thought they would have used a name that had some history... like the All Star label or something along those lines.
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Post by rberman on Mar 9, 2018 15:43:46 GMT -5
I think this could potentially be interesting, and would like to check them out. But for me, the obvious is question is "How is this different from the Earth One line of OGNs?" Except for the implied "mature" content, which I guess translates into the possibility for more violence, profanity, and nudity, it seems to be pretty much the same concept as Earth One. Same here. My first thought it is a strange name to attach to an imprint. I would have thought they would have used a name that had some history... like the All Star label or something along those lines. Black Label is not a comic book term, but it's used in other industries to denote a prestige product. One assumes they chose it to try to draw in new readers from their TV commercials. But there's still nowhere for those new readers to encounter the product, unless they deliberately seek out a local comics store so...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 15:58:11 GMT -5
Same here. My first thought it is a strange name to attach to an imprint. I would have thought they would have used a name that had some history... like the All Star label or something along those lines. Black Label is not a comic book term, but it's used in other industries to denote a prestige product. One assumes they chose it to try to draw in new readers from their TV commercials. But there's still nowhere for those new readers to encounter the product, unless they deliberately seek out a local comics store so... Moving forward, I would expect new editions of DCs evergreen sellers to be put out under the Black Label imprint, i.e. Dark Knight, Watchmen, Killing Joke et. al. and other projects to be retroactively added to it. I also don;t think these projects are targeting the direct market customer per se. Lee's quote is invoking these long term revenue streams form evergreen sellers and that revenue stream is not coming from the direct market, but the book trade, books selling at B&N, on Amazon, etc. etc. not in comic shops. They are hoping these will be the kind of projects that result in books that stay in print not have the 2 week window of sales the direct market provides for most comics. That is why they are letting the creators determine the format of the books, whether to do single issues or OGN, prestige format or regular monthly books, 20 page installments, 48 page installments, or whatever. DC it seems is realizing the direct market is soft and a shrinking customer base. Most of their recent imprints/initiatives are targeting readers outside the direct market so they don't have to rely on only those going to comic book stores. DC is not the only one realizing this. Mike Richardson of Dark Horse said this when asked about releasing hte 300 sequel Xerxes by Frank Miller in the current market... sourceComics existed before the direct market and they will survive after the direct market as well. The biggest issue with comic sales is they have relied and focused on the direct market for to long and some publishers are now awakening to that fact and developing publishing plans that look to move out beyond it. With Ink, Zoom, and the Sandman books, and now this Black Label line, DC seems to be one of those publishers looking for ways to target readers outside the direct market with material that has broader appeal than to the Wednesday Warrior customer base of the direct market. My guess is DC has worked out deals to bring Ink and Zoom wherever kids and young adult books are sold-including places like Wal*Mart and Target that have kids/YA sections in their book departments (I already see the DC kids books from other publishers and Super-Hero Girl books there) and I wouldn't be surprised to see them push Black Label to those markets as well-I've already seen trades at Target and Meijers-Walking Dead, Killing Joke, standalone stuff of that ilk which is what Black Label is aspiring to be, so I doubt the only place you will be able to find these books is in comic shops. -M
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 16:00:45 GMT -5
Oh and the Black Label ine is going to get a big push, as well as the Bendis stuff at the DC pop up store (similar to the Dc in DC event a few weeks ago) that will be set up at the South by Southwest music festival in Austin coming up soon. Bendis and several other creators and editors will be in attendance selling and promoting DC books there.
-M
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Post by hondobrode on Mar 13, 2018 12:20:52 GMT -5
I think this could potentially be interesting, and would like to check them out. But for me, the obvious is question is "How is this different from the Earth One line of OGNs?" Except for the implied "mature" content, which I guess translates into the possibility for more violence, profanity, and nudity, it seems to be pretty much the same concept as Earth One. Same here. My first thought it is a strange name to attach to an imprint. I would have thought they would have used a name that had some history... like the All Star label or something along those lines. I too thought the same thing. To me it's just a new coat of paint. As long as we get decent stories, who cares ? Really hate the look of Superman's hair on that Frank Miller book though.
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