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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 8, 2018 9:55:54 GMT -5
Post-seasons’ greeting and felicitations, my comics-loving cohorts! My back is much better and I’m back for a little TCB. I gotta tell ya, this has been one of the most personally entertaining CCCs we’ve ever done. I was thrilled to see you lot respond to my humble query with such a broad, colorful, and occasionally mind-boggling assortment of funnybook ne’er-do-wells. But enough of this jibber-jabber. It’s time to channel my inner Stan Lee and stun your senses with some staggering statistics, effendi!
30 participants cast 360 votes for 259 distinct looks. Yes, the multitudes have spoken, and the Classic Comics Forum’s favorite super-villain design is Jack Kirby’s majestically fearsome death goddess Hela, who led the field with 8 votes, including Dubip’s first place vote. Hot on her hellish heels with 7 votes is another Kirby klassic: the diabolical Doctor Doom, who would’ve tied with Hela had not Iccrombone specified his original capeless look from FF #5. Doom can take comfort in receiving three #1 votes, more than any other design. Third place was a five-way tie, with Bob Kane’s classic Catwoman (two #1s), Joe Kubert’s Gentleman Ghost, Alex Raymond’s archetypal Ming the Merciless (one #1), Steve Ditko’s Mysterio (one #1), and Jerry Robinson’s Joker receiving 5 votes each. Here’s how the rest of the voting broke down.
4 votes: Dormammu (one #1), Galactus, The Reverse-Flash/Professor Zoom
3 votes: Baron Karza (one #1), Black Manta (one #1), Captain Cold, The Cheetah, Chemo, The Green Goblin, The Iron Maiden, Modok, 9-Jack-9, Poison Ivy, The Sentinels, Ultron, Validus
2½ votes: Lex Luthor (warsuit)
2 votes: The Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man, Annihilus, Ares, Brainiac (Hannigan redesign), Bullseye, Deathstroke the Terminator, The Dragon Lady, Electro, The Emerald Empress, Eternity, The Hobgoblin, Jei, Kraven the Hunter, Lex Luthor (prison greys - one #1), Loki, Magneto, Mean Machine Angel (one #1), Mephisto, Monsieur Mallah, Morbius the Living Vampire, Nebulos, The Phantom Blot, Razorfist, The Scarecrow, The Shocker, Shuma-Gorath, Those Stupid, Stupid Rat Creatures, Swarm, Two-Face, Venom, Vulture (classic)
1 vote: Too damn many to type out again!
½ vote: Lex Luthor (business suit), Quicksilver, The White Queen (Since Mechagoidzilla changed his vote for Pietro due to a misunderstanding, I thought it only fair to count both his choices.)
That feline fashion plate Catwoman and Lex Luthor tied for most looks mentioned, with 4 designs each. Black Manta, Brainiac, Dr. Doom, Grendel, Lumiya, Parallax, Thoth-Amon, and The Vulture tied for the silver, with 2 looks cited apiece.
The clear victor among the many artists nominated was Jack Kirby with a jaw-dopping 60 votes divided among 39 characters. His closest competitors were Steve Ditko, with 22 votes for 10 characters, and George Perez (15/10). Also receiving double-digit votes were John Buscema (12/10), Curt Swan (11/9), Carmine Infantino (11/7), and Bob Kane (10/4).
Marvel led the pack handily, garnering 171 votes for 82 characters, followed by DC (126 votes for 120 characters). Tied at a very distant third were Fawcett and Dark Horse at 3 votes each.
Up next: your lists!
To be continued...
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 8, 2018 10:23:28 GMT -5
badwolf
12. Plantman
11. The Prowler
10. Arnim Zola
9. Chemo
8. The Shadow Thief
7. Mr. Nobody
6. Moonstone
5. Mesmero
4. The Beetle
3. Poison Ivy
2. The Cheetah
1. Mysterio
berkley
12. Umar
11. Stallior
10. Arkon
9. Prince Gaynor
8. Midnight
7. Taharqua
6. Ulluxy'l
5. Le noir terrifiant
3. The Faceless One
2. Hela
1. Dormammu
bert
12. Catwoman
11. Electro
10. The Cheetah
9. Chemo
8. Captain Cold
7. Poison Ivy
6. Artemis
5. Killer Frost
4. The Emerald Empress
3. Hela
2. Validus
1. Black Manta
brutalis
12. Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man
11. The Absorbing Man
10. Modok
9. Iron Maiden
8. Validus
7. The Gentleman Ghost
6. The Masked Marauder
5. Mercurio the 4-D Man
4. The Super-Skrull
3. Xemnu the Titan
2. The Shocker
1. Doctor Demonicus
Cei-U!
12. Count Nefaria
11. Captain Nazi
10. Nebulos, Lord of the Planet Perilous
9. Hela
8. Ultivac
7. Mysterio
6. Dragon Man
5. Tiger Shark
4. Solomon Grundy
3. Sauron
2. Scarecrow
1. Modok
codystarbuck
12. Iron Jaw
11. Deadshot
10. The Taskmaster
9. Deathstroke the Terminator
8. Razorfist
7. Dumas
6. Warrior Woman
5. Black Adam
4. Pavane
3. Double-Header
2. Brynocki
1. The Elf
coke & comics
12. Swarm
11. The In-Betweener
10. The Rocket Racer
9. Two-Face
8. Firefly (Nolan version)
7. Scarface and The Venriloquist
6. Senyaka
5. Jei
4. 9-Jack-9
3. Mephisto
2. The Vulture
1. Doctor Doom (classic)
Confessor
12. The Mekon
11. Morbius the Living Vampire
10. Stilt Man
9. Lex Luthor (warsuit)
8. Lumiya (Cynthia Martin redesign)
7. Judge Death
6. Galactus
5. The Hobgoblin
4. Ming the Merciless
3. The Joker
2. Mean Machine Angel
1. Doctor Doom (classic)
Crimebuster
12. 9-Jack-9
11. Madame Satan
10. The Royal Flush Gang
9. Monsieur Mallah
8. Bloodwraith
7. The Gentleman Ghost
6. Lumiya
5. The Clock King
4. Ultron
3. Mysterio
2. The Reverse-Flash
1. The Shade
DubipR
12. Flag Smasher
11. Doctor Doom
10. Grendel (Hunter Rose version)
9. Volcana
8. Titania
7. Lashina
6. Catwoman (Jim Balent redesign)
5. Morgan Le Fey (Camelot 3000)
4. Catwoman (Darwyn Cooke redesign)
3. Poison Ivy
2. The Black Cat
1. Hela
To be continued...
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 8, 2018 10:25:41 GMT -5
Farrar
12. The Shaper of Worlds
11. Karla
10. Maximus (silver armor)
9. Catwoman (Infantino costume)
8. Annihilus
7. Iron Maiden
6. The Emerald Empress
5. Loki
4. Nasthalthia “Nasty” Luthor
3. Alvit
2. The Swordsman
1. Karnilla
foxley
12. Blacklash
11. The Puzzler
10. Swarm
9. The White Rabbit
8. The Black Queen (Jean Grey)
7. Hazard
6. The Silver Swan (Perez redesign)
5. Ares (Perez redesign)
4. Darth Talon
3. Cheetah (Perez redesign)
2. The Gentleman Ghost
1. Catwoman (classic)
hondobrode
12. The Composite Superman
11. The Joker
10. Dekko
9. Solaris
8. Trigon
7. Radiant
6. The Yellow Claw (Steranko redesign)
5. Validus
4. Dormammu
3. Doctor Doom
2. Eternity
1. Baron Karza
Icctrombone
12. The Enchantress
11. Doctor Doom (original version)
10. Nebula
9. The Eliminator
8. Seth
7. The Air-Walker
6. Razorfist
5. The Reverse-Flash
4. Brother Blood
3. Galactus
2. Deathstroke the Terminator
1. Thanos
james
12. The Unicorn (Giffen redesign)
11. Bullseye
10. The Gladiator
9. The Bi-Beast
8. Brother Blood
7. Arishem
6. The Grim Reaper
5. The Super-Adaptoid
4. The Living Monolith
3. The Stranger
2. Terminus
1. The Living Laser
Jesse
12. Catwoman (classic)
11. 9-Jack-9
10. Shuma-Gorath
9. Mysterio
8. Galactus
7. The Icicle (LaRocque redesign)
6. Magneto
5. The Joker
4. Lex Luthor (warsuit)
3. Ares (Perez redesign)
2. The Green Goblin
1. Doctor Doom (classic)
Mechagodzilla
12. Madame Hydra
11. Quicksilver / The White Queen
10. Magneto
9. The Joker
8. Ozymandias
7. Catwoman (classic)
6. Loki
5. Parallax
4. Iron Maiden
3. The Scarlet Witch
2. Hela
1. The Black Widow
mrp
12. Smaug
11. Baron Karza
10. Thoth-Amon (Kelly Jones version)
9. Madame Hydra
8. Shuma-Gorath
7. The Scissor-Men
6. Dormammu
5. Jei
4. The Dragon Lady
3. P'Gell
2. Stupid, Stupid Rat Creatures
1. Ming the Merciless
MWGallaher
12. The Fadeaway Man
11. The Un-Men
10. Brainiac (Hannigan redesign)
9. Tannarak (Aparo redesign)
8. Reverse-Flash
7. Chemo
6. Kobra
5. Starro the Conqueror
4. Black Manta
3. The Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man
2. Two-Face
1. Darkseid
outsider
12. The Ultra-Humanite
11. Johnny Sorrow
10. Ruby Thursday
9. The Silver Banshee
8. Granny Goodness
7. Princess Python
6. Dark Phoenix
5. Captain Cold
4. HYDRA
3. Dormammu
2. Ashtoreth
1. Lex Luthor (prison greys)
To be continued...
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 8, 2018 10:30:30 GMT -5
Paste-Pot Paul
12. The Infinite Man
11. Hookjaw
10. Hela
9. Crossbones
8. Scorpio
7. Madame Hydra
6. The Green Goblin
5. The Grey Gargoyle
4. Bullseye
3. Judge Mortis
2. The Punisher
1. Mean Mahine Angel
Pharazonk
12. Venom
11. Lex Luthor (Bronze Age costume)
10. Mano
9. Captain Cold
8. The Scarecrow
7. Mordru
6. Brainiac (classic)
5. Morbius the Living Vampire
4. The Green Goblin
3. Man-Bat
2. Professor Zoom
1. The Time Trapper
pinkfloydsound17
12. Tombstone
11. Mysterio
10. The Juggernaut
9. Hela
8. Mr. Fear
7. The Magus
6. Venom
5. Electro
4. Annihilus
3. The Hobgoblin
2. Mephisto
1. The Scorpion
Prince Hal
12. Ir, Ur, and Ar
11. Mrs. Pruneface
10. The Hate-Monger
9. The Black Cougar
8. The Vulture
7. Chronos
6. Mangog
5. Black Mask
4. Death-Man
3. Lex Luthor (prison greys)
2. The Joker
1. Pvt. Johnny Doe
Reptisaurus
12. Lord Lazee
11. The Phantom Blot
10. The Demon Bear
9. Evil Shape Shifting Harpies
8. The Evil Eye
7. The Hoi Polloi Ring Herd
6. Reggie Mantle
5. The Corinthian
4. Sadly Sadly Sanders
3. Stegron the Dinosaur Man
2. The Penguin
1. The Kryptonian Thought Beast
Roquefort Raider
12. Ming the Merciless
11. The Living Tribunal
10. Surtur
9. Hela
8. Kang the Conqueror
7. The Brood
6. Nebulos, Lord of the Planet Perilous
5. Galactus
4. Doctor Doom
3. Eternity
2. Baron Karza
1. Thoth-Amon
shaxper
12. Monarch
11. The Giants (from I Kill Giants)
10. Clayface III
9. Lex Luthor (warsuit/business suit)
8. The Phantom Blot
7. Carnage
6. Ultron
5. Grendel (Man-About-Town version)
4. Doctor Doom
3. The Krypton Man
2. Brainiac (Hannigan redesign)
1. Parallax II
Slam Bradley
12. The Lizard
11. Mister Mind
10. Fin Fang Foom
9. Stupid, Stupid Rat Creatures
8. The Beagle Boys
7. A.I.M.
6. The Gentleman Ghost
5. Monsieur Mallah
4. Ming the Merciless
3. Modok
2. The Dragon Lady
1. Catwoman (classic)
thwhtguardian
12. Queen Clea
11. Ma'alefa'ak
10. The Gentleman Ghost
9. The Sentinels
8. The Octopus
7. Raditz
6. Professor Doctor Herman von Klempt
5. Black Manta (Gleason redesign)
4. Agat
3. Ming the Merciless
2. Shredder
1. Dracula (Mignola version)
zilch
12. Ultron
11. The Crimson Dynamo (original)
10. Multi-Man
9. Doctor Light
8. Black Manta
7. The Vulture (Blackie Drago)
6. The Shocker
5. Videx
4. The Sentinels
3. Kraven the Hunter
2. The Trapster
1. The Wingless Wizard
To be concluded...
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 8, 2018 10:54:00 GMT -5
As always, half the fun of these surveys is seeing why folks chose what they chose. You can see those whys and wherefores in the original threads by clicking on the following links: The ChallengeThe First DayThe Second DayThe Third DayThe Fourth DayThe Fifth DayThe Sixth DayThe Seventh DayThe Eighth DayThe Ninth DayThe Tenth DayThe Eleventh DayThe Twelfth DayThe Near-MissesThis is the part where I normally tell those of you who didn't finish their lists to feel free to finish at your convenience and I would update your list accordingly, but everybody finished so never mind! As always, I never truly consider these surveys closed, so if you're reading this down the line and want to add your own list, please do. All I ask is that you read the Challenge/Advance Warning thread first so you understand the rules and that you post your choices in the original threads. And with that, we say "Sayonara!" to another bout of Twelve Days of Classic Comics Christmas madness. It's been real, it's been fun, it's even been real fun, and it's all because of you. Without your participation, this would just be me talking to myself every holiday season! Cei-U! Wishing you all a happy, healthy, comics-filled 2018! |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 8, 2018 10:56:09 GMT -5
Can't thank you enough for your tireless passion and work on this, Kurt. It's always a highlight of my holiday season! (and sorry for those pesky 1/2 votes  ) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 11:12:18 GMT -5
It's been an interesting 12 days countdown and thankful you gave partial credit to my selection of Quicksilver and giving that character a 1/2 vote and I've wanted to thank you Kurt for allowing that to happen. Thanks for putting this together for us to enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 13:14:29 GMT -5
Kurt and his 12 Days do more to make the holiday fun than Santa Claus! (looking to be put on the cover of Kurt's 12 Days of X-Mas book collection coming out in 2023 as a cover blurb  ) in all seriousness, thanks again for doing this Kurt, it really is appreciated. -M |
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 8, 2018 13:18:28 GMT -5
Happy New Year and thanks for the inspiration and the hard work, Kurt!
I was most surprised by the popularty of the Gentleman Ghost. In fact, I had included him on my original list, and because therewas already such strong support for him, I changed him out for another design simply because I figured it would be more fun to throw something new than simply repeat what others had already said so well.
What makes this event particularly fun for me is the "why" of it. I loved thinking about why a particular design was a favorite of mine and then trying to explain it in the rationale.
I realized I was drawn to skullfaces. No worries, though: I'm a stable genius.
Already looking forward to the 2018 CCC!
Thanks again, Kurt.
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Post by brutalis on Jan 8, 2018 13:31:56 GMT -5
As everyone else notes: THANKS Kurt for all your hard work on this romp of fun each each year. Always interesting and never boring. Mucho's Nacho's to you sir!
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Post by berkley on Jan 8, 2018 13:33:04 GMT -5
Thanks for doing all that work, Kurt.
One of the biggest surprises to me was how popular Catwoman was, especially the long, purple dress version.
A surprise of the opposite kind was how few votes Darkseid received - only 1, IIRC. I would have predicted he'd be one of the most frequent choices and probably would have made him one of my own picks had I realised that wasn't going to happen.
Pleased but not surprised to see Hela and Dormammu get so many votes, since they are such strong designs. If this were any other board I'd suspect some influence from their recent movie appearances to be at work here but I doubt that was a factor at all with our Classic Comics people.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 13:40:19 GMT -5
I do have to wonder how much of a bump Hela's recent appearance in Thor Ragnarok gave her performance here, as it served to remind me anyways of what a great design it was. She didn't make my list, but got some consideration.
-M
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Post by berkley on Jan 8, 2018 13:43:06 GMT -5
Yes, that's true - certainly the movie might remind people of the character's existence and induce them to give her comic appearances a closer look.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 15:28:35 GMT -5
I do have to wonder how much of a bump Hela's recent appearance in Thor Ragnarok gave her performance here, as it served to remind me anyways of what a great design it was. She didn't make my list, but got some consideration. -M Hela's role in Thor Ragnarok has nothing to do with my selection of her at Number 2 and did not influence me at all. I'm being very honest about this and rightly so. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 8, 2018 16:50:33 GMT -5
I do have to wonder how much of a bump Hela's recent appearance in Thor Ragnarok gave her performance here, as it served to remind me anyways of what a great design it was. She didn't make my list, but got some consideration. -M It certainly influenced my choosing Hela. Cei-U! I summon the plain truth! |
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