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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 22:55:14 GMT -5
In a quick interview with SyFy Wire as part of SyFy's 25th anniversary, SfX artist Glenn Hetrick (judge on SyFy's Face Off sfx competition) listed Dark Horse's Conan as the best comic/graphic novel series of the last 25 years.
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Post by chazro on Sept 17, 2017 17:52:26 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised how little Cary Nord's work was mentioned in yr review of the 1st arc. In my 50+ yrs of reading comics, this particular run is one of the finest pieces of comicbook art I've ever seen. Certainly Nord's best work. My involvement/commitment to the series directly reflected his. When he left (after his work started looking VERY rushed), so did I.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 18:01:16 GMT -5
I've mentioned elsewhere before that I feel Nord's Conan best captures the Conan found in the pages of Howard, even more so than Frazetta, who is probably my favorite genre artist bar none. Smith's stuff is gorgeous, and Buscema is the standard everyone seems to measure Conan comic art by, but when I read Howard's description of Conan on the page and look at the various Conan depictions, Nord is the one that resonates with Howard's prose.
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Post by lordyam on Sept 19, 2017 2:59:52 GMT -5
Okay, time for Issue #8: Born on the Battlefield Part 1: This is a departure since it actually takes place BEFORE issue 1. This covers the early years of Conan's life, before he left to see the world. It appeared every 7 or so issues give or take, culminating in the two parter just before the final arc. It's....an interesting take, not quite in line with Howard. So anyway let's dig in. Recap: We start with the Wazir asking about Conan's s childhood. The Wazir makes an excuse about how the chronicles are fragmented and don't talk much about a backwater like Cimmeria but the Prince is insistent. Conan rose to become king of the most advanced nation on earth; surely the people would be interested. The Wazir concedes that there are accounts dictated by Zenobia but thinks that they are hearsay. Besides they could be embellished. However the prince is still insistent so the Wazir reads (cursing under his breath.) We open in battle, during one of the many Vanir raids on Cimmeria. The men are fighting while the women watch (since the text says this is what they do.....except when need arises and they bust out the swords). To prove the point a heavily pregnant woman rushes forwards and spears a Vanir during his attempt to kill her The woman, Fialla, starts to declare he'll not hurt hubby but then she gets contractions. Her husband realizes what is happening and has his men form a circle around her while she gives birth. Conan is born just as the Vanir flee for their lives and the people are in awe; being born on the battlefield is an omen (besides he's rather big for being born a month early). Maybe he'll bed a great warrior or chieftain. Shooting a little small their guys. The husband, Conaldar, asks his wife who for now doesn't really care; All that matters is that for now he's a healthy child....and he has such beautiful eyes. As time passes Conan grows up, operating the forge, running messages and other errands. He also listens to his grandfather's tales of the south and even plays with children when they have time (where Conan is unquestionably the one in charge). However life is harsh even in play (we see a father offering sausage rolls but only to the kids who make it first) and Conan learns the lessons well (reaching the sausages first). He looks down (reflecting upon hearing the men say "born on the battlefield" and lamenting that they have daughters rather than a son like him). Conan hands them out, but one of the kids, Donal protests since his uncle threw them. Conan tells him to run faster next time, to which Donal looks angry. Time passes and we learn that in the seventh year they learn about weapons. Conan is upset that he's not allowed to train yet even though he's smarter than Donal and bigger than Gwydd. His father agrees that he's big and strong but there's time yet. We get scenes of Conan observing weapons (as well as men talking about them) and he wonders whether it's his birth or just hearing the men talk). ANYWAY back to the main plot. A friend comes in telling Conan to play (one of their friends has apples.) Conan initially refuses since he has work but his dad's a good sport and tells him to go. As Conan runs off his mother wonders if maybe the omen stuff isn't a myth (since even kids older than Conan flock to him) and doesn't mind not being able to have children anymore. Unfortunately not ALL are happy with Conan; Donal (the son of the tanner) is insanely jealous, a view his father shares (seeing Conaldar as a stuck up asshole and saying the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.) Saying that Donal's the biggest, Daddy tells Donal to show Conan who's boss. Later on Conan is laying out the rules for what to play when Donal speaks up, complaining that since he's the oldest he should decide. Conan agrees but then asks Donal what they should play. Donal is at a loss for words and just insults Conan. Donal realizes he's lost the argument and tackles Conan like an internet troll who's been cornered and can't rebut the arguments. He acts like a jackass, insulting Conan and ridiculing the omen about Conan. One of the kids Eamha throws a rock at Donal at Conan's prompting, at which Tuathal (another kid) does the same. Donal falls to his knees and calls them all cowards, at which point Conan tells him to go away; he isn't welcome anymore. Donal runs away and Conan is pleased, describing the battle of Carrach's ford and how they beat the Aesir through standing together. Some of the kids are nervous that Donal might take revenge but Conan assures them that they'll stand together (they all agree to protect each other from Donal and to come running if the other is in trouble. Over the next few days Conan continues to wonder about the meaning of the words "born on the battlefield" even as the kids look up to him. Eventually his dad asks him to deliver a knife to the High Meadowes, and Conan runs off with it. His friend Tarra is heading there to give Meat Pasties and they begin to make the trip....when Donal leaps out of nowhere and attacks Conan by beating him with a rock. Conan tells Tarra to run and she goes to get help. Donal hits Conan repeatedly, saying his mom was stupid and ran on the field how his dad is a preening cock and how Conan didn't fall far from the tree yada yada yada. Conan reaches for the knife and manages to grab it as the tales he's heard play in his mind. He slashes Donal across the stomach and Conan warns him to back off and run. Donal doesn't take the hint and charges. We hear a loud scream but don't see it. Tarra leads the villagers to the site....and we see Conan standing over Donal hugging his legs. Conan tells his father "See to your son Tanner. He's hurt." Before walking off into the woods." Review: Well this is technically Conan's first appearance and it's not a bad one. The bit about women not fighting is a little weird but mitigated by the fact that Fialla kicks the vanir's ass. Conan's growth over the years is admirable, and avoids feeling rushed. Conan shows that he's charismatic even as a kid and he does so by being likable. Donal and his rivalry with Conan is well handled. Donal's basically the bully who isn't terribly smart and who kinda backs down when faced with a threat that he can't handle. Conan may have hurt him but the little bastard had it coming. Overall a great introduction. 8.5 out of 10.
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Post by lordyam on Sept 19, 2017 3:44:48 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised how little Cary Nord's work was mentioned in yr review of the 1st arc. In my 50+ yrs of reading comics, this particular run is one of the finest pieces of comicbook art I've ever seen. Certainly Nord's best work. My involvement/commitment to the series directly reflected his. When he left (after his work started looking VERY rushed), so did I. That's unfair. Giorello easy matches Nord (honestly I think he's better.) The Cimmerian series had a problem (by switching the order of Iron Shadows with Black Colossus they created the need for filler, which resulted in Road of Kings) but it was a very good series overall (less filler too). ANYWAY back to the main plot. Issue #9: Two Nemedians Walk into a Bar. Recap: We Return to the main plot as the Bone Woman observes Conan's face in the fire; from he lair in the Hyrkanian plateau. We get a bit of backstory about how ancient she is (her exact backstory is revealed in Kull The Hate Witch; it's a retcon but as far as it goes NOT a bad one). In the fire she sees visions of Conan doing things to survive and declares that his path will cross another.....which will be interesting since he can shake the world. In a bar, some toughs are shaking down a merchant and stealing his gold while people look on. One of them mocks him and his friend takes the coin purse declaring "HO, TAVERNER! ALE AND WINE! AND LET TRAVELERS BEWARE WHEN THEY BRAVE TEH LOWER QUARTERS-- FOR THEY RISK THE BLADES OF THE BOLD THIEVES OF BERTINUS!" In the corners Conan grunts, and the thieves are put off by the amusement. They ask Conan if he cares for them, and Conan says that he is rather amused to see "a pair of pups put down a chicken and declare themselves mighty wolves of the forest." He goes on to say that they're wusses and what they did rather weak. They confidently ask Conan if he wants to say it to their faces so Conan gets up revealing his towering height. One of them tries to tackle Conan with a knife but is quickly picked up and thrown into his compatriot. He says that they and other city dwellers are weak and unused to fighting. They don't even know what "bold" means. The second thief asks Conan "and you do?" Conan says that he'll tell a tale and suggests they judge when it's finished. In the flashback Conan is walking down the streets taking in the sights (even though he thinks the concept of cities are stupid he still admires the sights) when the Magistrate barrels down in his chariot and gets mud on Conan. Conan tells the fat bastard to watch where he's going, and the magistrate unused to being told off hits Conan with his rod). Conan threatens him, prompting the man to order his guards to give Conan a beating. Conan is able to beat them despite having sold his armor for food and bares down on the magistrate; the guy calls the city watchmen. Realizing that it's more than he wants to handle, Conan barrels through a few and flees over a wall promising that he'll see the magistrate again (showing off his climbing skills.) In the present the two thieves are skeptical, but two prostitutes confirm the tale saying they were talking about it in the market place. They are rather impressed and Conan (taken in by them) accepts and offers them a spot at his table (ordering ale). Janissa quietly listens in the booth behind him as Conan continues his tale. In the past Conan describes how people who hated the magistrate led him to the place, which Conan was able to climb easily (since Cimmerians are climbers; he also insults how gaudy the fort is). In the booth that's behind the ladies Two guys, Tinna and Aztrias, are listening. Tinna wants to leave (since he's put off by both Conan's accent and his ego) but Aztrias wants to hear more. In the Flashback Conan describes entering an unbarred window. Though there were guards there Conan was able to lull them into a false sense of security before beating the crap out of them (as Conan points out they should have immediately tackled him rather than challenging him.) The magistrate hears the commotion and complains....only to stop when Conan enters, telling him that they have unfinished business. Conan cuts off his attempt to call for guards with a swung fist and the magistrate immediately begs for his life. Conan admits that while he planned to kill the guy seeing him groveling just takes the fun out of it; he's just too fucking pathetic. So he looks around and steals the guy's scepter and crown to sell. The magistrate protests again at which point Conan knocks him out with his own scepter. Any thoughts of killing him are put to rest when he hears footsteps. So he simply takes the loot and flees into the night. Naturally the thieves are skeptical but Conan shuts them up by revealing the staff and crown. The thieves decide to take the loot and begin to threaten Conan while preening....only for the guards to burst in ordering everyone not to move. The guards see the treasures and assume that the two hapless thieves are the guilty party. They protest and try to implicate Conan....only to find that he's pulled a Batman and vanished. Naturally they aren't believed, and their told that they'll hang. The theives immediately try to blame Conan but all the patrons play dumb and pretend that they're lying, prompting the guards to haul them off. After they leave Conan quickly emerges from the back room, and the people marvel assuming he planned it. Conan boisterously admits that no it was just dumb luck on his part. He's been dodging the guard all night. He admits that he doesn't have money to pay for ale, but the merchant who was shaken down offers to pay. Conan accepts (admitting that maybe he was wrong about townsfolk) and invites the women. Aztrias meanwhile ignores Tinna's advise and decides that Conan is the perfect choice for his plan. He approaches Conan, offering him a job to steal something in Numalia. Conan agrees to the offer, but tells him he may want to seek elsewhere in the future "for of all the bold thieves of bertinus, if the best cannot even keep what he stole what hope is there for the rest of them?" As everyone laughs uproariously Janissa communicates with her mistress through a wand. Janissa describes him as a wild bull who would surely bring about his doom. However she concedes that he is cunning and skilled...he heard the watch almost as quickly as she did. The Bone Woman agrees with the assessment, saying he's raw and untutored but has a strength that makes him someone worth watching. She orders Janissa to head to Numalia. Two forces clash and the balance point is in Numalia or will be soon...and Conan is heading right for it. Review: This issue was hilarious. After the heartbreak of issue 7 this is a step up; Conan's tale with the magistrate is a blast, and the way he manages to play the two dumbasses is a treat to read. You feel kinda sorry for them but eh they're bullies so fuck them. All things said this is the intro for God in the Bowl, explaining how Conan met Aztrias. The Bone Woman is also seen in the flesh for the first time and while she's intimidating I have to wonder what Busiek had planned. She was largely dropped after he left, barring Phantoms of the Black Coast and (retconned in, the hate witch) until Fred Van Lente brought her back. Janissa is also interesting if a tad arrogant. I'll get things out of the way and say that Fred Van Lente did a much better job with her as a sympathetic warrior. Still overall it's a good issue. 8 out of 10. PS the blonde prostitute (Jiara) ends up being Conan's longest term girlfriend and bedwarmer for the series.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 19, 2017 8:12:10 GMT -5
Two Nemedians walk into a bar was one of my favourite Dark Horse Conan stories, second only to The Crown of Tiamat. Conan demonstrates his intelligence and what is altogether too rare: his sense of humour. The way he tricks those pretentious thieves is priceless and really makes you want to be his friend; anyone who pulls a stunt like that must be great to hang around!
The Crown of Tiamat would show another great aspect of his personality: his sense of wonder. That, too, is often short-changed in favour of his bravery or prowess in battle. Kurt Busiek truly developed Conan as an individual during his run; I'm sorry he went away.
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Post by lordyam on Sept 19, 2017 13:06:05 GMT -5
Tim Truman still did a good job (I prefer his version of Nestor's curse to Kurt's proposed idea.) In any case Kurt had health problems that helped influence his decision.
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Post by chazro on Sept 22, 2017 18:45:35 GMT -5
I'm kinda surprised how little Cary Nord's work was mentioned in yr review of the 1st arc. In my 50+ yrs of reading comics, this particular run is one of the finest pieces of comicbook art I've ever seen. Certainly Nord's best work. My involvement/commitment to the series directly reflected his. When he left (after his work started looking VERY rushed), so did I. That's unfair. Giorello easy matches Nord (honestly I think he's better.) Whoa! We're definitely going to have to agree to disagree! My vague memory of Giorello is of (another) Buscema wannabe. In no way is his work as memorable or as distinctive as Nord's, not even close and in no way comparable. But that's just my opinion!
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Post by lordyam on Sept 27, 2017 1:02:48 GMT -5
Anyway onto the God in the Bowl Two parter Issue #10: God in the Bowl Part 1: The Temple of Kallian Publico Recap: In the shadows Aztrias points at the watchman. Conan says he sees him and runs off to climb up the walls. He makes it to the top and hacks the lock apart with his sword. Down below the watchman Arus is doing his rounds, mulling over that he isn't terribly used to the place. He finds a body, horrified even as he realizes that the men who hate him would never recognized . He kneels over the body, wondering why the rings weren't taken when he sees movement. Conan emerges from the curtain and Arus brandishes his crossbow. He puts on a show asking why Conan killed him. Conan denies it, asking who the corpse is. Arus distracts Conan by confirming that Kallian is the corpse and then rings the bell. Conan is appalled. "It will fetch the watchman!" Arus responds "I am the watchman, Knave." As he holds Conan at crossbow point Conan's decision of whether to move or not is interrupted when the door is broken down. A well dressed man and his guards storm in, and Arus is amazed by his good fortune. The man is Demitrio, Inquisitor of the City, and he explains that he happened to be doing his rounds at the time, passing by the temple. In any case he's horrified to see Kallian foully murdered, and Arus gives his story of what happened. He was suspicious since the door was only bolted rather than locked with Kallian's special key. When he passed the bolt he went in and saw Kallian lying dead on the ground. Demetrio asks Conan who he is, and Arus of course suspects him of being the murderer. Demetrio asks Conan if he did it, and gets angry when Conan refuses. Conan protests that he isn't a dog, at which point Dionus (the big bulky second in command) starts gloating about how he'll knock Conan's insolence out of him. He begins to ask, when Demetrio cuts him off. He calmly introduces himself as Chief of the Inquisitorial council of Numalia and suggests Conan tell him why he's here and if he's not the murderer, than to prove it. Conan refuses to answer so Demetrio decides to question Arus in the meantime. Arus explains that when he began his rounds the door was DEFINATELY locked and bolted, and that if Kallian had left and returned he's have heard the Chariot on the cobblestones. He further explains that the door was only unlocked at least half an hour ago. Dionus is having none of this and advocates just beating Conan into confessing. Demetrio asks Conan if he understands and asks for Conan's answer. Conan threatens any who touch him (saying that any who touch him "will quickly be greeting his ancestors in hell.") Demetrio asks Conan why he came. Conan admits it was to steal but lies and says it was food. Demetrio sees through it and demands the answer when Conan cuts him off moving for his sword. He ain't a city bred nemedian t cringe before hired curs....besides he's killed better men than him for less (which we will actually see in Issue 32). Demetrio to his credit maintains his cool and calls of Dionus. He is able to persuade Conan to talk by pointing out that while he hasn't accused Conan yet the appearances ARE suspicious. He asks Conan how he entered and Conan confirms he climbed it. Arus disbelieves him but Demetrio (who has seen Cimmerians scale cliffs) lets Conan continue. Conan describes breaking the bolt with his sword (much to Arus's shock). Conan continues the tale, saying that he continued down the stair rather than pausing (Refusing to answer when asked how he knew). He explains that it led to a chamber beyond the curtain door and when he heard the door open he looked through it and saw Arus standing over Kallian. Demetrio asks him why he came out, and when Conan explains he believed Arus to be a thief Demetrio presses the issue; why come out even if that were the case. Conan says that he thought that Arus came to steal what he wanted to....but cuts himself off. Demetrio however works out what he was saying and says that Conan revealed more than he intended. Based on his actions (not tarrying where the richest stuff was) he shows that he was sent to steal a SPECIFIC thing and KNEW the building plan. Dionus jumps in and declares that he was also sent to kill Kallian and is sure he has it. He tries to move forwards, prompting Conan to go for his sword, calling them wimps and saying that if they think they'll lay their hands on him they've got another thing coming. Demetrio declares that he doesn't yet think Conan did it (while whispering that Dionus should wait until they can summon more or at least trick Conan into laying his sword down.) Dionus grudgingly agrees and calls off his men. Demetrio tries to convince Conan to hand over his sword but Conan isn't an idiot and refuses to do so. Demetrio lets the matter lie and goes back to the task at hand. Examining the corpse, he notices that Kallian was strangled; while he is suspicious to know why Conan would waste time strangling when Cimmerians prefer swords he concedes that it could have been to divert suspicion. He also notes that the body's been dead for a half hour (which means that if Conan told the truth he couldn't have done it.); but that could be a lie. Conan insists he's telling the truth and Demetrio moves on. Demetrio notices that whatever strangled him was thicker than a man's arm (wondering why a murderer would use a weapon like that). That's leaving aside how much force there was./ :looking over the scene he notices (based on a scratched floor, hangings pulled away, and a knocked away bust) that Kallian was attacked in anothther room, staggered out, and was finished in the hallway.) Dionus asks who the murderer is if it isn't Conan, and Demetrio confirms that he hasn't exonerated Conan yet but he'll investigate.....when he's cut off. There are chariot wheels outside. As Demetrio gives orders Arus says that by the sound it stopped in front of Promero's house; When Demetrio asks who Promero is Arus confirms that it's Kallian's chief clerk. Demetrio repeats the orders to bring Promero in. A short time later Dionus and his men bring Promero, along with Enaro (Kallian's charioteer). Promero laments "oh I knew evil would come of this." Enaro meanwhile is unmoved by the corpse, and even admits that he felt like killing Kallian himself. When pushed, he pulls back his sleeves, revealing a tattoo that marks him as a debtor's slave. Demetrio interviews Kallian, learning that he didn't know his master was coming to the temple that night. HE also explains that things were usual up until he brought the chariot to the temple. When they were driving home Kallian ordered him to return to the temple; when askeds he confirms that he was bade to stop him at Promero's house and return there for him just after midnight (the orders were given right after dusk); from shortly after dusk to midnight he returned to the slave's quarters. Demetrio asks him if he had no idea why Kallian went there and Enaro retorts "He didn't speak of his business to his slaves. Turning to Promero Demetrio turns on the questioning; Promero is very clearly hiding something and when asked why Kallian came gives an answer that's VERY clearly a blatant lie. Demetrio orders Dionus to get the answer out of Promero; Dionus orders one of his guardsmen Posthumo to do it (saying "You know what to do.") Posthumo first talks to Enaro asking if he knows who he is; Enaro does, and he mentions how Posthumo gouged a girl's due out for refusing to give information incriminating her lover (charming. Hope this bastard gets it.) Posthumo violently backhands Promero before kicking him while on the ground. Promero yields before being told to get up; Demetrio quietly tells Conan that THIS is what happens to those who cross the guard. Conan is still defiant, spitting on the ground and saying that if one of them touches HIM he'll spill the guy's heart's blood on the floor. Promero quickly fesses up (Demetrio ignores his sob story about needing the position less he starve) explaining that Kallian stayed until half an our before midnight, at which point he left before going to the temple, saying he'd return. Demetrio asks what he was going to do and Promero decides to continue as one of the guards menacingly holds a fist in his hand. Turns out Kallian wished to examine something. This perplexes Demetrio; why would he come alone in such secrecy? Premiere explains that it wasn't Kallian's property. It arrived in a caravan from the south at dawn. The men only knew that it had been given to them by Stygian men and that it was meant for Hanumar and Kalanthes, Priest of Ibis. The Master was paid to deliver it to Kalanthes but wished to proceed directly to Aquilonia, and so asked if he could leave it there until Kalanthes could send for it. Kallian agreed and said he'd send a runner to inform Kalanthes, but after the caravan left he forbade Promero from sending anyone. When asked he explains it was a sort of sarcophagus. Unlike most ones found in stygian tombs it was round and constructed of a copper like substance (and bound with metal bands). Demetrio asks him what was in it; Promero says that they were only told that it was a priceless relic sent to Kalanthes "because of the love the sender bore the priest of Ibis" (yeah, this is going to take on DARK connotations). Killeen believed it contained an artifact called the diadem of the giant kings, who ruled the land before the stygians came there. When he showed Kallian a design that looked like a diadem he became determined to open it; Promero warned him not to but there was no persuading him. He further reveals that if there WAS the diadem in the bowl he planed to hide it, and then the next day raise a cry claiming that thieves had broken in; the plan was fullproof since Enaro and Promero were the only ones who knew and THEY would NEVER betray him. When asked about Arus he explains that they planned to frame him as an accomplice to the thief and set him up to be crucified (we get rather funny reaction shot of Arus's shock.) Demetrio asks where the sarcophagus is, and Promero gestures to the very room where Kallian was attacked. Promero starts ranting, asking why any in Stygia would send Kalanthes a gift, since the Stygians worship Set and Ibis (Kalanthes's patron) has fought Set since the dawn of time. Demotion is unimpressed and orders Promero to show him the Sarcophagus. Promero agrees but is still suspicious (why would someone in Stygia love him if he fought Set all his life, especially enough to send him a gift) when his rant is cut off. As they enter the room the Sarcophagus is open....and empty. Review: This was a slower issue than usual. It's also unusual in that Demetrio is the true star of the show; he's also a very likable character. Compared to his brutish cohort Dionus Demetrio is a good cop. He doesn't just jump to conclusions and is analytical. While he is clearly suspicious of Conan he's willing to hear him out and investigate before jumping to conclusions. I've seen it pointed out that Howard was experimenting with other genres when he wrote this and it's easy to see why; this is very much a mystery story and it's a pretty good one. The buildup is good and there's a sense of dread throughout. Even if you already know what to expect it's a damn fun ride. 9.5 out of 10.
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Post by berkley on Sept 27, 2017 1:38:40 GMT -5
One thing that throws me off a bit with Cary Nord's Conan is the colouring technique they went with, which I find distracting in itself and also leaves the impression that it's doing some of the work (shading, texture) that I feel should be done by the artist that's drawing the pictures.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 27, 2017 10:44:41 GMT -5
That particular arc really confirmed that Nord would be an exceptional Conan artist; not just one who's talented (plenty of talented artists drew Conan) but one who would make his mark by his original and new approach. Look at the helmet on that guard's head: it's not a finely moulded fantasy thing made by the elves of the Luminous Forest. It's heavy, clunky, like something made in the bronze age; it's also showing an attempt at being decorative, since it belongs to the retinue of a rich man. In its simplicity, it seems to say "THIS IS A REAL HELMET FROM 12,000 YEARS AGO".
The same goes for Conan's physique. He looks strong and wiry, but not like a gym-haunting bodybuilder or like the Hulk. He looks like a real guy.
Ditto for the buildings. Their walls are squat and heavy, made by piling stones or bricks on top of each other. No flying buttresses yet, no fantasy architecture; it all looks as authentic as the world Howard describes.
The only negative thing I can say about this new adaptation (and it's not even really negative) is that there was no way anybody...not Nord, not Frazetta, not anyone... could have topped Barry Smith's design for the man-headed serpent or for Thoth-Amon. It was just a case of a classic design being impossible to top, like that of Darth Vader or Doctor Doom.
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Post by Warmonger on Sept 28, 2017 7:51:40 GMT -5
Well I guess the 12th issue of Cullen Bunn's run on Conan the Slayer was the last.
Overall, the series was nothing to write home about, but I found it entertaining enough.
Hopefully we'll get another series in the not too distant future.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 10:37:57 GMT -5
Well I guess the 12th issue of Cullen Bunn's run on Conan the Slayer was the last. Overall, the series was nothing to write home about, but I found it entertaining enough. Hopefully we'll get another series in the not too distant future. You've got the Conan/Wonder Woman x-over series now, but nothing else has been solicited or announced. I think a lot will depend on how well the series sells, as a lot of smaller publishers are condensing their lines and paring less profitable books to trim their line down. Licensed books have to sell better than non-licensed books to achieve the same profitability because of the cost of the license, so we'll see what DH trims. -M
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 28, 2017 10:53:42 GMT -5
Well I guess the 12th issue of Cullen Bunn's run on Conan the Slayer was the last. Overall, the series was nothing to write home about, but I found it entertaining enough. Hopefully we'll get another series in the not too distant future. You've got the Conan/Wonder Woman x-over series now, but nothing else has been solicited or announced. I think a lot will depend on how well the series sells, as a lot of smaller publishers are condensing their lines and paring less profitable books to trim their line down. Licensed books have to sell better than non-licensed books to achieve the same profitability because of the cost of the license, so we'll see what DH trims. Speaking of licences... Conan is now in the public domain in several countries, so I wonder how long it will take for some foreign publisher to start putting out a Conan comic. Sure, it couldn't be called "Conan" because the trademark still belongs to whoever now owns it (Paradox or whatever they call themselves today), but "Age undreamed of" could probably pass muster. Mmmmmh... Maybe Éditions Roquefort could look into that...
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Post by berkley on Sept 29, 2017 1:20:16 GMT -5
You've got the Conan/Wonder Woman x-over series now, but nothing else has been solicited or announced. I think a lot will depend on how well the series sells, as a lot of smaller publishers are condensing their lines and paring less profitable books to trim their line down. Licensed books have to sell better than non-licensed books to achieve the same profitability because of the cost of the license, so we'll see what DH trims. Speaking of licences... Conan is now in the public domain in several countries, so I wonder how long it will take for some foreign publisher to start putting out a Conan comic. Sure, it couldn't be called "Conan" because the trademark still belongs to whoever now owns it (Paradox or whatever they call themselves today), but "Age undreamed of" could probably pass muster. Mmmmmh... Maybe Éditions Roquefort could look into that... You mean, they could still have Conan as the lead character and call him Conan inside the story, but the series itself couldn't be called Conan or use that name anywhere in its title? Weird how that works. I'd love to see an Éditions Roquefort Conan story.
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