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Post by shaxper on Aug 9, 2017 23:06:31 GMT -5
Pssst...Make sure to check out the Advance Warning Thread before jumping in with your selection!1. Cerebus (1977-2004)By: Dave Sim (with help from Gerhard) Originally published in: Cerebus #0-300, Cerebus World Tour Book 1995, Epic Illustrated #26, 28, 30, and others Cerebus began as a simple parody of the sword & sorcery comics of the 1970s, albeit with a grumpy aardvark. However, a slow evolution began partway into the first volume and never really stopped. Gradually, and over the course of many volumes, the series became the most experimental, artistic, philosophical, and overall intelligent comic I've ever read or even heard about. It continually broke new ground in the comic genre in ways that still haven't been duplicated nor surpassed. Unfortunately, the downside to the series is that the instability of creator Dave Sim is often unintentionally reflected in the work. As a result, the series isn't really coherent. It maintains a mostly coherent continuity, but characterization, themes, tone, and scope spontaneously change with a moment's notice many times throughout the series. Sim will even take abrupt detours, in the worst case spending an entire volume depicting the death of Oscar Wilde for seemingly no reason. But most dramatically of all, he turns into a strongly outspoken misogynist late in the series, spending a great deal of time talking about the evils of women and feminism, and ultimately decides that he is a prophet, reinterpreting the bible and creating his own religion in the pages of the last two volumes (and yes, he really believed this stuff). And yet, in spite of all the series' scattered madness and schizophrenic tendencies, there's a reason I pushed through for 300+ issues without a single regret -- even when Cerebus offends and loses its charm, it never stops breaking the mould and striving to do something new in the medium. It's brilliant stuff; the true scary kind of brilliance that is often accompanied by madness and fits of rage. There's a level of genius and experimentation this series reaches that can't be found anywhere else, and after putting down a particularly tiresome or offensive installment for a day or two, you start to miss it like a drug. For all of these reasons, this is an indispensable must-read, something I'd even dare to consider as being the most important, intelligent, and artistic comic book series ever written. A few examples of Sim's genius (and I never use that term lightly)... Depicting time: Space: Sound: Silence: Thought: When put together, Sims could use all this experimenting to depict something infinitely complex and thought provoking: Or something immensely simple and, thus, instantly relatable: Sim is the ultimate innovator of the comic book medium, and it's for that reason that, regardless of what I think of him or of the directions this series takes, I continually respect Cerebus enough to call it the greatest comic book saga I've ever read.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 23:23:29 GMT -5
1. The Bone Saga 1991-2004 (includes Bone 1-55 by Jeff Smith and Rose 1-3 by Jeff Smith and Charles Vess)For years I resisted the idea of reading Bone. In my arrogance I thought it was too cartoony for me, but Charles Vess doing the art got me to pick up the Rose mini and when I read that I was intrigued by the world Jeff Smith was creating, but I still avoided Bone itself. I tried the first volume, Out from Boneville form the library, but I didn't get very far. Then, around abouts 2013 I was at a local con and the organizers asked me to be a participant in a game show panel featuring a comic book version of the $25K Pyramid. I won, answering every question correctly except for the one category based on Bone, and I took a lot of heat from folks who knew of my support for indy books because I had never read Bone. How could I have not read it? It was enough to get me to give it a go again and the next weekend I saw the all-in-one edition at a Half Priced Books and picked it up. Once I cracked it and started reading I was getting more into it. It still started a little slow, but by the time I got into what would have been the second trade, I was hooked and couldn't put it down. I finished the massive volume in a couple of days, and when I was done, I put it down for a day then picked it up and read it all again. I couldn't get enough. I had been an idiot. What I, in my hubris had dismissed as cartoony was brilliant storytelling, a genius in simplicity that let the characters and emotional weight of the tale carry the narrative and sweep the reader through it all. It is simply, one of the best adventure stories I have ever read, but it is also so much more than an adventure story. It works on so many levels and the layers are so subtly crafted there's always more to dig into and find. It excels in all the things a great fantasy work does-epic adventure, heroes you can root for, fascinating world-building etc. It has all the elements of a great drama, and it is a visual narrative that is both effective and breathtaking. The panels and pages are masterworks of carrying the reader through the story, but there are panels that just make you stop and soak in the beauty of it. I don't think I have ever been more wrong about a comic than I was with my initial assessment of Bone, dismissing it without giving it a chance. I regret taking so long to experience, but I am glad I did, and I look forward to diving into it again several more times in my lifetime. For those who haven't read Rose, it is a prequel to the Bone Saga featuring one of the characters in the Bone saga in her youth. It stands up well on its own, as does Bone itself, but the Rose storyline adds a lot of depth to the world and backmatter to the story Smith is telling in Bone itself. -M
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Post by coke & comics on Aug 9, 2017 23:27:29 GMT -5
1 Amazing Spider-Manby Stan Lee and Steve Ditko Amazing Fantasy #15, Amazing Spider-Man #1-33, annual 1-2 It begins with a teenager learning a lesson about responsibility. It continues as he learns that the answer is not so easy. How does one balance conflicting responsibilities? That initial story is capstoned in the 3-part Master Planner Saga, in which social pressure and dating troubles and legal trouble and bad press and school responsibilities and a sick aunt and a villain on the loose all add up and threaten to overwhelm Peter, before an entire subway station collapses on his head. Ditko stays on for a few more issues, but #33 brings the story to and end. There was nothing more to be said.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 0:41:13 GMT -5
#1DC: The New Frontier (2004) #1-6. Story and art by Darwyn Cooke.Even though I love both DC & Marvel I have a soft spot for DC's Silver Age. In this magnificent series Darwyn Cooke created a "love letter" celebrating that time. The series shows the JSA disbanding, then the Cold War & the rise of the Silver Age versions of DC's heroes. Plus tons of cameos including the Losers, the Challengers, the Sea Devils & others. It was beautifully written & illustrated. It captured all the reasons I started & continue to read comics for the past 50 years. For me this is comic books at their best. I doubt anyone else will ever surpass this masterpiece in my lifetime.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Aug 10, 2017 1:35:45 GMT -5
1. Captain America V5, 1-25 The Winter Soldier by Ed Brubaker, Steve Epting, Michael Lark, John Paul Leon, Lee Weeks, and Mike Perkins.
Simply put, they did the impossible, they brought back, with the greatest respect, one of THE characters that never should have been. Brubaker came up with the perfect formula, Cap as Jason Bourne(not so much Bond...that's more Fury for mine)up against his most despicable foe, at the height of his own game. Finally Skull has a real plan, being thought out and worked through in diabolical efficiency. We get Crossbones finally fulfilling some promise, and even getting HIS girl, Skulls daughter Sin,another excellent addition to the mythos. Speaking of girls, Sharon Carter gets to shine again, I always feel like she became worthy here, as a support person capable of holding her place in the story, instead of filling up a panel or two. He gets Falcon too, Sam is finally here sharing space and deserving it, owning it. I've loved these characters since I was maybe 8. Since the time I laid my beady little jealous eyes on Cap 153-156 and discovered Bucky I've loved him(stupid fake 50's Bucky be damned)but more often than not Marvel have done him a disservice. He'll get played well in the Avengers and the next week in his own title is fighting a giant robot version of himself, or struggling with Vermin or some such. Sure Byrne did good...for like 8 issues or so, and JM DeMatteis and Zeck was fun, but the vast majority of his publication its been average at best. For one of THE greatest creations, by one of THE greatest creators that ain't good enough, and thanks to Bru we got shown how to. I'd love to have included right through Reborn, but the good thing about ending with Cap on the steps, what cliffhanger! I was literally shocked when I read that Marvel had killed Steve,I hadnt got back into things too much by this stage, wasnt as cynical about character deaths as we all are now, and I was stunned, I was equally stunned by just how good the whole thing is(and what a movie it made).
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Post by coke & comics on Aug 10, 2017 1:54:38 GMT -5
1. Captain America V5, 1-25 The Winter Soldier by Ed Brubaker, Steve Epting, Michael Lark, John Paul Leon, Lee Weeks, and Mike Perkins. I'm toying with the idea of this for my honorable mentions. It's definitely among my favorite comics ever. My concern is that my real favorite part is after Cap dies and Bucky becomes Cap, which is ineligible for "classic" deadline. It is not in my current draft of honorable mentions, but I'm toying with the idea.
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Aug 10, 2017 2:31:35 GMT -5
Magik: Storm and IllyanaMagik: Storm and Illyana # 1-4 (with Uncanny X-Men #160 and New Mutants #14 being optional) by Chris Claremont Published 1983-1984 I've spoken about Chris Claremont's work on X-Men and New Mutants before, but to me this stands head and shoulders above the rest. A tale of tragedy and inevitability. Illyana Rasputin is doomed from the moment she is taken into Limbo in issue 1, and nothing she or anyone else does over the course of the series or her history can change that. I have considered Magik to be the anti-Jean Grey. Faced with the same choice Jean had, to end it all or risk destroying all that she loved, Magik chose to live and to fight, to say 'yes, I will fall, but not today,' and to say that every day of her life. Comics are notorious for their open-ended nature with no end, but this was the beginning of a story which readers knew would end one day, and not in a happy manner. It is a tragic story, with dashed hopes, shocking moments and character deaths, and the fate of everything hinges on the will of one person, forged in fire and in ice. It is the comic equivalent of Puella Magi Madoka Magica, weird, heartbreaking, bittersweet, and wonderful. And it is in my opinion the best origin story I have seen in superhero comics.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 10, 2017 6:11:48 GMT -5
10. Hard Traveling Heroes
Green lantern/Green Arrow 76-89, Flash 217-219
Denny O'Neil/Neal Adams / Dick GiordanoMaybe the most important artist to come along after the silver age combines with Denny O'neil to produce a set of stories that impacted the comics world. This was my #1 a few years ago and I doubt it could ever be unseated. This series made me care about Green Lantern and Green Arrow for the first time and their ongoing adventure to try to see what's affecting America was a compelling saga even for this age. The Speedy drug abuse story was the first depiction of hard core drug use in the big two and it's unforgettable. The series was cut short because of poor sales and the mind boggles imagining a much longer run from these two creators. But maybe having a short but great set of issues adds to the greatness, similar to a short Steranko Captain America or a short New Gods series.Either way, I'm glad that I can visit these issues every year.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 10, 2017 7:04:19 GMT -5
1. The Bone Saga 1991-2004 (includes Bone 1-55 by Jeff Smith and Rose 1-3 by Jeff Smith and Charles Vess) I've tried Bone twice and just couldn't get into it. Your review is inspiring me to try again.
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Post by brutalis on Aug 10, 2017 7:42:40 GMT -5
Avengers: The Kree/Skrull War. Issues 89-97. 1971, 1972.
Earth's mightiest go on trial, get disbanded and then head to space as the Kree/Skrull War chooses Earth as their battlefront. Invasion of the green shape changing aliens versus the cosmic conquest minded blue and white skinned Kree. It's the 1950's alien invader's fears taken to intergalactic proportions. Sit back and drink your Skrull milkshake as you take in the thrill packed, stunning and stupendous battle filled story by Roy Thomas, Sal Buscema and Neal Adams.
You get the bogus Fantastic Four, Captain Marvel, The current Avengers along with the return of the Big 3 and you learn the fate of the 1st invading Skrull's the FF turned into cow's (milk, it does a body good) and Mandroids versus Avengers, along with a slight Inhuman crossover, political intrigue, Ant-man takes a most fantastic journey exploring the insides of the synthezoid Vision and Rick Jones playing Flash Gordon as the Savior of Earth and the universe (with a little psychic push from the Supreme Intelligence, Ahhahhhh) with his love of Marvel Golden Age Superheroes! What more can you ask for comics fans?
Roy makes the Avengers cosmic with this story and plays connects the dots with Kree/Skrull activities from the FF and Captain Marvel while turning up the thrills with a nearly year long roller coaster ride. Avengers Assemble indeed!
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 10, 2017 11:23:04 GMT -5
Hellboy: The Wolves of St. August Story and Art by Mike Mignoa Dark Horse Presents #88-91, Dark Horse 1994 To the absolute surprise of no one here Mike Mignola is making his third and final appearance on my list as my number one pick for the greatest comic book sagas. I could easily have nominated the entire run up until the cut off date of 2007, and it would be a great choice as in that stretch we saw our rough hewn crimson hero evolve from a simple brute punching monsters to a Miltonian figure struggling with the burdens of fate. It tells stories about coming of age, fathers and sons, free will versus determination,nature versus nurture, the power of myth and then weaves them into a cohesive, mythic yarn. And while all of that is utterly fantastic the one, single story that encapsulates every thing about the series that I love, one story that I lend out when ever someone asks me about Hellboy; and it's the Wolves of St. August. It starts with a myth about werewolves, brings it to the modern day, throws in a ghost story, weaves in some great characterization and ends with a big red guy punching a wolfman into submission and through it all is the most beautiful art I've ever seen.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 10, 2017 11:53:43 GMT -5
Sandman by Neil Gaiman, et. al. Sandman 1-75 plus Special. It's a story about stories. How stories make us human. How even those who are inhuman can change and grow, live and love, become human and end their immortal lives with their humanity intact. Gaiman makes us care about the people in the stories. Hob Gadling appears, I think, four times. I care about him. I want to sit with him and have a drink. Not because I want to pick his brain about all the things he's seen. But because he's a genuine human and I care about him. I'm glad that I was invited to Morpheus' funeral. I'm glad that when it all ends there will be a cute spunky young lady to take me away. I'm glad I got to buy Sandman every month and partake of what I consider to be the greatest achievement ever in comics.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 10, 2017 14:13:40 GMT -5
BPRD Plague of Frogs #1 - BPRD Garden of Souls #5, and everything in between (The Dead, The Black Flame, The Universal Machine)Writers : John Arcudi and Mike Mignola Artist : Guy Davis This has been the most consistantly entertaining comic I've read in the past 20 years. Those first 5 story arcs are about Earth and its inhabitant's journey towards destruction. It is a fasinating one since you still have hope, even though the fact that the organism in charge hiring demons should have given us a clue... At First, I can't say I was thrilled about Davis involvement in this, since this world was introduced to us by the gorgeous Mignola artwork, and I must confess that as much Sandman Mystery Theatre was a favorite of mine, I rejoiced whenever a guest artist was hired for a story arc (Lark, Watkiss!). But Davis grew on me as he really felt like a drive force in this venture, one that absent from it would probably have had the whole project collapse early on. Though Hellboy isn't present in those pages, it turns out to be a blessing, as it allows co-writer to take control of the story in a way Mignola would never have allowed otherwise, and that is a good thing since he is a much more experienced writer than Mignola, who isn't that great at anything else but pulp and gothic pastiche, at least as his solo writing has demonstrated, too often relying on fist battles to conclude his storylines. What Arcudi brought to this series was character depth and consitency, as well as a stern direction, and what more could you wish for. The series is still going, and quite strongly, but it already has seen many phases, which I feel those five stories are the ground to, one that I have otfen revisited for no other reason than pure pleasure.
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Post by hondobrode on Aug 10, 2017 21:44:48 GMT -5
# 1 - Frank Miller’s DD # 168-191 The Elektra Saga by Frank Miller & Klaus Janson Daredevil / Matt Part of the appeal, at least for me, was the fact that Matt was raised Catholic. I too was raised Catholic and could identify with his conscience and guilt at times. It's part of what really made the character resonate with me. Elektra Kingpin Bullseye What a friggin fantastic cast ! There are no bad characters. Sometimes they just haven’t had the right creative team. What was a decent title became electrified under the team, and it ended up being Eisner hard-boiled fan Frank Miller. While Miller didn’t create the character, his DNA will forever be a part of the character. So much happened in this title and this series of issues. Nothing else was as cutting edge as this series back in the day. Expect the unexpected. Elektra’s origin kicking this off. What a great story ! Matt crippling Bullseye and playing Russian roulette ?! I had a subscription back then and was like a rabid dog in between issues. For that reason and many others, this gets my pick for # 1 spot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 22:44:35 GMT -5
LEt's of what's been posted so far for Day 10, I've read...
-Cerebus (in part) -Ditko/Lee Spidey -DC New Frontier -Brubaker Cap -Magik -O'Neill/Adams GL -Kree/Skrull War -Hellboy (all of it up through Hellboy in Hell Vol. 1) -Sandman -parts of BPRD ( I am filling in holes in the run as best I can now) -Miller's DD
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