Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 19:31:24 GMT -5
Some key points from Hibbs article...
the top 20 selling comics (trades/OGN) in the book trade for 2017 and # of units sold...
419,318 DOG MAN UNLEASHED
339,703 DOG MAN: A TALE OF TWO KITTIES
311,275 DOG MAN
179,859 GHOSTS
177,989 DRAMA
159,860 SMILE
147,889 SISTERS
115,735 KRISTY’S GREAT IDEA: FULL-COLO
99,464 THE MISADVENTURES OF MAX CRUMB
97,078 DORK DIARIES 1: TALES FROM A N
93,822 REAL FRIENDS
91,602 BIG NATE: WHAT’S A LITTLE NOOG
81,388 DANTDM: TRAYAURUS AND THE ENCH
79,579 THE TRUTH ABOUT STACEY: FULL-C
79,491 DORK DIARIES 10: TALES FROM A
76,571 THE BABY-SITTERS CLUB: DAWN AN
75,145 CLAUDIA AND MEAN JANINE
73,734 INVISIBLE EMMIE
68,800 MARY ANNE SAVES THE DAY: FULL-
66,876 AWKWARD
Hibbs' comment on it:
So much for kids don't read comics, they do, just not periodical comics featuring capes and tights.
If you sort by dollars instead of units, the list looks like this:
with a few non-kids books now making the list but they are high end editions.
These are the authors who generated over a million in revenue each for all their listings on the report:
PILKEY DAV $12,473,032.26
TELGEMEIER RAINA $9,640,046.81
KIRKMAN ROBERT $7,782,164.81
RUSSELL RACHEL REN $6,128,321.53
VAUGHAN BRIAN K. $4,263,973.08
PEIRCE LINCOLN $3,854,861.56
LEWIS JOHN $3,758,518.00
KIBUISHI KAZU $3,600,365.04
ISHIDA SUI $3,487,487.51
MOORE ALAN $2,926,106.54
JOHNS GEOFF $2,848,375.36
ISAYAMA HAJIME $2,835,506.03
HIMEKAWA AKIRA $2,813,826.66
KUSAKA HIDENORI $2,609,804.84
SNYDER SCOTT $2,561,484.56
GAIMAN NEIL $2,348,200.81
YANG GENE LUEN $2,173,307.74
BENDIS BRIAN MICHAEL $2,023,850.29
KISHIMOTO MASASHI $2,019,648.95
ODA EIICHIRO $2,007,041.74
TORIYAMA AKIRA $2,005,619.82
GILLEN KIERON $1,903,718.41
OTOMO KATSUHIRO $1,830,704.87
SPIEGELMAN ART $1,824,282.84
SATRAPI MARJANE $1,806,897.10
KING TOM $1,770,004.29
MILLER FRANK $1,766,494.54
HORIKOSHI KOHEI $1,760,337.90
MASHIMA HIRO $1,642,954.64
AARON JASON $1,633,896.36
DANTDM $1,626,946.12
OHBA TSUGUMI $1,593,829.64
MILLAR MARK $1,537,664.19
MIURA KENTARO $1,534,563.02
ENNIS GARTH $1,489,819.90
JAMIESON VICTORIA $1,468,903.29
ARAKI HIROHIKO $1,401,794.89
MORRISON GRANT $1,368,636.11
MARTIN ANN M. $1,354,103.87
CHMAKOVA SVETLANA $1,353,975.00
HOLM JENNIFER L. $1,336,025.62
TOBIN PAUL $1,335,197.89
HALE SHANNON $1,330,538.53
ITO JUNJI $1,320,569.94
LEMIRE JEFF $1,237,076.23
TOBOSO YANA $1,228,134.20
FERRIS EMIL $1,222,489.30
HALE NATHAN $1,211,376.48
O’MALLEY BRYAN LEE $1,177,564.44
COATES TA-NEHISI $1,164,788.45
TAKAYA NATSUKI $1,156,821.32
ONE $1,137,241.62
TAYLOR TOM $1,115,534.23
SIMPSON DANA $1,115,416.27
SMITH JEFF $1,108,367.15
RUCKA GREG $1,057,684.14
WAID MARK $1,038,522.79
HICKMAN JONATHAN $1,010,572.97
all told this represents just under half of all dollars sold form the entire list. Or as Hibbs puts it:
Another salient point about the changing nature of the comics customer and what it might mean for the future of comics:
In other words, these kids aren't growing up on monthly super-hero comics and won't have nostalgia for that the way the current Wednesday Warrior crowd and many in our ranks here do.
The top publishers of western (i.e. non-Manga) comics in the book trade
#1 Scholastic (3rd year in a row at #1)
#2 DC Entertainment
Hibbs comment on DC:
essentially, those Ink and Zoom lines announcements make a whole lot of sense when looking at the marketplace as a whole and not just what sells in comic shops.
#3 Image Comics
#4 PRH (i.e. Penguin/Random House)-highest ranking of the big 5 traditional book publishers on the list
#5 Andrews McMeel
#6 Simon & Shuster
#7 Marvel Comics
some numbers for Marvel:
#8 Harper Collins
#9 Holtzbrink (FirstSecond publishing is one of their many imprints)
#10 Abrams
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the top 20 selling comics (trades/OGN) in the book trade for 2017 and # of units sold...
419,318 DOG MAN UNLEASHED
339,703 DOG MAN: A TALE OF TWO KITTIES
311,275 DOG MAN
179,859 GHOSTS
177,989 DRAMA
159,860 SMILE
147,889 SISTERS
115,735 KRISTY’S GREAT IDEA: FULL-COLO
99,464 THE MISADVENTURES OF MAX CRUMB
97,078 DORK DIARIES 1: TALES FROM A N
93,822 REAL FRIENDS
91,602 BIG NATE: WHAT’S A LITTLE NOOG
81,388 DANTDM: TRAYAURUS AND THE ENCH
79,579 THE TRUTH ABOUT STACEY: FULL-C
79,491 DORK DIARIES 10: TALES FROM A
76,571 THE BABY-SITTERS CLUB: DAWN AN
75,145 CLAUDIA AND MEAN JANINE
73,734 INVISIBLE EMMIE
68,800 MARY ANNE SAVES THE DAY: FULL-
66,876 AWKWARD
Hibbs' comment on it:
Clearly, the first thing you can’t help but notice is that all twenty of the Top Twenty are books aimed at younger readers – it was just eighteen last year, and fifteen the year before You have to hit #23 before you reach a book aimed at adults (“Persepolis”), #29 before you hit a book aimed at adults that could be considered DM-driven (“Saga” v7), and a staggering #36 before you reach something that that is a superhero comic (“Batman: The Killing Joke”). Clearly, the times, they are a changin’. Further: the conventional wisdom is that the BookScan reporting is only the tip of the iceberg because the real market for kids books is going to be through things like a) Scholastic Book Fairs that run directly through elementary schools all over America, as well as b) libraries, both school and municipal, none of which report to BookScan. That’s all largely invisible, though, and something we can but speculate on the actual size and shape. (Big; and Wide)
For what it is worth, only five of the Top 20 are by white men, and not a single one of them was created within or “for” the traditional Direct Market comics system. This is a pretty dramatic change from even a few years ago on both counts.(In terms of the DM, the highest placing that any of these twenty books appear to have placed through Diamond in 2017 is “Ghosts” at #809 for the year…. Though, in all fairness, because of discount and shipping terms you’d have to be a real fool to buy most of these books from Diamond rather than practically anyone else. I am assuming [perhaps foolishly] that most of my fellows are NOT sourcing these from Diamond – for example, “Ghosts” was my #27 best-seller for the year at my main store, and none of those copies were purchased from DCD.)
“Kids” comics is absolutely the hottest demographic of the moment, reminding me in any ways of pre-Direct Market times when comics were on the newsstands and the audience was assumed to turn over every several years. One difference between then and now is that when those kids turn over, Pilkey and Telegemeier and all of the rest of these authors will still be waiting for the next incoming group of kids because these are permanent formats, not transitory ones like periodicals were.
In addition to 20/20 of the Top 20 being kids books, it is also 27/30, 34/40, 39/50 and a massive 64/100 that are kids-oriented. It’s not until you get done past spot #100 before things start to swing back to comics intended for adults.
In addition to 20/20 of the Top 20 being kids books, it is also 27/30, 34/40, 39/50 and a massive 64/100 that are kids-oriented. It’s not until you get done past spot #100 before things start to swing back to comics intended for adults.
So much for kids don't read comics, they do, just not periodical comics featuring capes and tights.
If you sort by dollars instead of units, the list looks like this:
not transitory ones like periodicals were.
In addition to 20/20 of the Top 20 being kids books, it is also 27/30, 34/40, 39/50 and a massive 64/100 that are kids-oriented. It’s not until you get done past spot #100 before things start to swing back to comics intended for adults.
What happens if you sort the chart by dollars grossed instead of pieces sold? Things change less than you might think:
$4,188,986.82 DOG MAN UNLEASHED
$3,393,632.97 DOG MAN: A TALE OF TWO KITTIES
$3,109,637.25 DOG MAN
$1,976,650.41 GHOSTS
$1,956,099.11 DRAMA
$1,930,863.75 MARCH (TRILOGY SLIPCASE SET)
$1,756,861.40 SMILE
$1,626,946.12 DANTDM: TRAYAURUS AND THE ENCH
$1,625,300.11 SISTERS
$1,445,127.74 AKIRA 35TH ANNIVERSARY BOX SET
$1,391,501.36 THE MISADVENTURES OF MAX CRUMB
$1,358,121.22 DORK DIARIES 1: TALES FROM A N
$1,353,044.84 THE BABY-SITTERS CLUB GRAPHIX
$1,271,927.65 KRISTY’S GREAT IDEA: FULL-COLO
$1,222,454.31 MY FAVORITE THING IS MONSTERS
$ 1,218,747.78 REAL FRIENDS
$1,122,532.88 THE WALKING DEAD COMPENDIUM VO
$1,112,079.09 DORK DIARIES 10: TALES FROM A
$1,096,252.08 AMULET BOX SET: BOOKS 1-7
$1,074,933.99 DOG MAN: THE EPIC COLLECTION:
A lot of box sets start moving up the list, but we do have appearances by several not-kids works – specifically Rep John Lewis’ “March” (boxed set) comes in at #6, and a $200 (!) edition of “Akira” appears at #10.
In addition to 20/20 of the Top 20 being kids books, it is also 27/30, 34/40, 39/50 and a massive 64/100 that are kids-oriented. It’s not until you get done past spot #100 before things start to swing back to comics intended for adults.
What happens if you sort the chart by dollars grossed instead of pieces sold? Things change less than you might think:
$4,188,986.82 DOG MAN UNLEASHED
$3,393,632.97 DOG MAN: A TALE OF TWO KITTIES
$3,109,637.25 DOG MAN
$1,976,650.41 GHOSTS
$1,956,099.11 DRAMA
$1,930,863.75 MARCH (TRILOGY SLIPCASE SET)
$1,756,861.40 SMILE
$1,626,946.12 DANTDM: TRAYAURUS AND THE ENCH
$1,625,300.11 SISTERS
$1,445,127.74 AKIRA 35TH ANNIVERSARY BOX SET
$1,391,501.36 THE MISADVENTURES OF MAX CRUMB
$1,358,121.22 DORK DIARIES 1: TALES FROM A N
$1,353,044.84 THE BABY-SITTERS CLUB GRAPHIX
$1,271,927.65 KRISTY’S GREAT IDEA: FULL-COLO
$1,222,454.31 MY FAVORITE THING IS MONSTERS
$ 1,218,747.78 REAL FRIENDS
$1,122,532.88 THE WALKING DEAD COMPENDIUM VO
$1,112,079.09 DORK DIARIES 10: TALES FROM A
$1,096,252.08 AMULET BOX SET: BOOKS 1-7
$1,074,933.99 DOG MAN: THE EPIC COLLECTION:
A lot of box sets start moving up the list, but we do have appearances by several not-kids works – specifically Rep John Lewis’ “March” (boxed set) comes in at #6, and a $200 (!) edition of “Akira” appears at #10.
with a few non-kids books now making the list but they are high end editions.
These are the authors who generated over a million in revenue each for all their listings on the report:
PILKEY DAV $12,473,032.26
TELGEMEIER RAINA $9,640,046.81
KIRKMAN ROBERT $7,782,164.81
RUSSELL RACHEL REN $6,128,321.53
VAUGHAN BRIAN K. $4,263,973.08
PEIRCE LINCOLN $3,854,861.56
LEWIS JOHN $3,758,518.00
KIBUISHI KAZU $3,600,365.04
ISHIDA SUI $3,487,487.51
MOORE ALAN $2,926,106.54
JOHNS GEOFF $2,848,375.36
ISAYAMA HAJIME $2,835,506.03
HIMEKAWA AKIRA $2,813,826.66
KUSAKA HIDENORI $2,609,804.84
SNYDER SCOTT $2,561,484.56
GAIMAN NEIL $2,348,200.81
YANG GENE LUEN $2,173,307.74
BENDIS BRIAN MICHAEL $2,023,850.29
KISHIMOTO MASASHI $2,019,648.95
ODA EIICHIRO $2,007,041.74
TORIYAMA AKIRA $2,005,619.82
GILLEN KIERON $1,903,718.41
OTOMO KATSUHIRO $1,830,704.87
SPIEGELMAN ART $1,824,282.84
SATRAPI MARJANE $1,806,897.10
KING TOM $1,770,004.29
MILLER FRANK $1,766,494.54
HORIKOSHI KOHEI $1,760,337.90
MASHIMA HIRO $1,642,954.64
AARON JASON $1,633,896.36
DANTDM $1,626,946.12
OHBA TSUGUMI $1,593,829.64
MILLAR MARK $1,537,664.19
MIURA KENTARO $1,534,563.02
ENNIS GARTH $1,489,819.90
JAMIESON VICTORIA $1,468,903.29
ARAKI HIROHIKO $1,401,794.89
MORRISON GRANT $1,368,636.11
MARTIN ANN M. $1,354,103.87
CHMAKOVA SVETLANA $1,353,975.00
HOLM JENNIFER L. $1,336,025.62
TOBIN PAUL $1,335,197.89
HALE SHANNON $1,330,538.53
ITO JUNJI $1,320,569.94
LEMIRE JEFF $1,237,076.23
TOBOSO YANA $1,228,134.20
FERRIS EMIL $1,222,489.30
HALE NATHAN $1,211,376.48
O’MALLEY BRYAN LEE $1,177,564.44
COATES TA-NEHISI $1,164,788.45
TAKAYA NATSUKI $1,156,821.32
ONE $1,137,241.62
TAYLOR TOM $1,115,534.23
SIMPSON DANA $1,115,416.27
SMITH JEFF $1,108,367.15
RUCKA GREG $1,057,684.14
WAID MARK $1,038,522.79
HICKMAN JONATHAN $1,010,572.97
all told this represents just under half of all dollars sold form the entire list. Or as Hibbs puts it:
What you can take from this is that only a small number of creators drive the majority of the business in comics (and books in general, I think); and conversely, this probably means that the numerical majority comics aren’t actually significantly profitable any given year.
Another salient point about the changing nature of the comics customer and what it might mean for the future of comics:
Another observation I have is that BookScan tracks (theoretically at least, since again, publishers set their own BISACs) Adult reading distinctly from YA and Kids. I don’t. Part of this is that I’m a bookseller, and I’m rather agnostic about who specifically buys books as a result. But I have to be certain to make this point as clearly as I can: the market for who is buying comics is changing, and it is changing for the wider and the better. The eight year old who is inhaling Dav Pilkey in 2017 is going to be the comics-literate adult of 2030 (or whatever), which is going to change what comics readers in the ‘30s will want or expect. The kids reading comics in 1965 totally imagined what the 1980’s comics scene could and would be, which is why we’re where we are today, but the shape of the Western industry in the future is absolutely what today’s children read and see.
In other words, these kids aren't growing up on monthly super-hero comics and won't have nostalgia for that the way the current Wednesday Warrior crowd and many in our ranks here do.
The top publishers of western (i.e. non-Manga) comics in the book trade
#1 Scholastic (3rd year in a row at #1)
#2 DC Entertainment
Hibbs comment on DC:
Our #2 publisher in the Top 750, once again, is DC Entertainment.
In 2017 they placed 110 titles in the Top 750, for a bit under 828k units, and just under $15.2 m in retail dollars, from their two charting imprints. “DC” itself is 98 of those placements, while “Vertigo” represents 12. (In the Long Tail we still have America’s Best Comics, CMX, Mad, Paradox and Wildstorm)
By how they’re getting eclipsed by Scholastic, you can see why DC has announced a Juvenile and Young Adult lines! (several of those books look pretty great, too)
In 2017 they placed 110 titles in the Top 750, for a bit under 828k units, and just under $15.2 m in retail dollars, from their two charting imprints. “DC” itself is 98 of those placements, while “Vertigo” represents 12. (In the Long Tail we still have America’s Best Comics, CMX, Mad, Paradox and Wildstorm)
By how they’re getting eclipsed by Scholastic, you can see why DC has announced a Juvenile and Young Adult lines! (several of those books look pretty great, too)
essentially, those Ink and Zoom lines announcements make a whole lot of sense when looking at the marketplace as a whole and not just what sells in comic shops.
#3 Image Comics
#4 PRH (i.e. Penguin/Random House)-highest ranking of the big 5 traditional book publishers on the list
#5 Andrews McMeel
#6 Simon & Shuster
#7 Marvel Comics
some numbers for Marvel:
Marvel Comics, which places 50 (of the top 750) titles for about 379k copies and $7.8m sold.
In advance of the film (released in Feb of 2018, don’t forget), Ta-Nehisi Coates’ “Black Panther: A Nation Under Our Feet” takes the top of Marvel charts – v1 does 28k, v2 does 17k, and v3 pulls in like 9600 copies. This will almost certainly explode on next year’s chart.
Marvel’s third best-selling comic is “Old Man Logan”, probably on the strength of the “Logan” film. Almost 17k sells there.
Marvel’s fourth best-seller is the first volume of Kieron Gillen’s “Darth Vader” (also about 17k), while the later books all chart (v2 & 3 right around 10k). Eighteen of the fifty placing Marvel titles are “Star Wars”, selling a combined 126k and $2.6m in gross sales.
Marvel’s fifth best-seller is the “Infinity Gauntlet” – something like 16k sold – this, also, is likely to soar in 2018 as the third Avengers movie does a story very similar to it.At #6 for Marvel is “Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe” (14k) – not really the tone of the movie, and #7 is the first Ms. Marvel book “No Normal”, with almost 13k. Really that last one is one of the only books to show up without a movie or TV show connected to it (the first “Unbeatable Squirrel Girl” comes in a little over 5k, further down the chart)
No other Marvel comics top 10k in the bookstore market.
In advance of the film (released in Feb of 2018, don’t forget), Ta-Nehisi Coates’ “Black Panther: A Nation Under Our Feet” takes the top of Marvel charts – v1 does 28k, v2 does 17k, and v3 pulls in like 9600 copies. This will almost certainly explode on next year’s chart.
Marvel’s third best-selling comic is “Old Man Logan”, probably on the strength of the “Logan” film. Almost 17k sells there.
Marvel’s fourth best-seller is the first volume of Kieron Gillen’s “Darth Vader” (also about 17k), while the later books all chart (v2 & 3 right around 10k). Eighteen of the fifty placing Marvel titles are “Star Wars”, selling a combined 126k and $2.6m in gross sales.
Marvel’s fifth best-seller is the “Infinity Gauntlet” – something like 16k sold – this, also, is likely to soar in 2018 as the third Avengers movie does a story very similar to it.At #6 for Marvel is “Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe” (14k) – not really the tone of the movie, and #7 is the first Ms. Marvel book “No Normal”, with almost 13k. Really that last one is one of the only books to show up without a movie or TV show connected to it (the first “Unbeatable Squirrel Girl” comes in a little over 5k, further down the chart)
No other Marvel comics top 10k in the bookstore market.
#8 Harper Collins
#9 Holtzbrink (FirstSecond publishing is one of their many imprints)
#10 Abrams
-M