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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 2, 2014 9:13:21 GMT -5
I'm sure there was a lot of cruddy undergrounds produced back when, but I've been extremely impressed with the level of quality art I've seen so far looking at these old issues. Now, when I bought them i obviously flipped thru them to make sure they looked decent and I did some research as to what was the best as well. For the most part these books look better than many things I've seen from mainstream comics from the last few decades. All right I need some help here. I've got an S Clay Wilson comic filed between Drool and Facts O Life Funnies and I have no idea of the title Every page including the cover,back cover and inside covers are full page intricately detailed drawings with no dialogue or writing of any kind The drawings have dates ranging from 1967 thru 1969. I must have known the name of the mag at some point to file it at this particular spot Be the first to correctly identify this masterpiece. It is quite impressive Facts O' Life Funnies 1972 and your hosts include Crumb,Bobby London,Shary Flenniken,Gilbert Shelton and more The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers in Fat Freddie Gets The Clap Trots and Bonnie urge you to get a pap smear Plus Clarence Crablice,Dopin' Dan,Fertile Fanny and more  Fantagor #1 (1970) and #3 Rich Corbin. Lots of Rich Corbin. Lots and lots. And # 3 is a full color comic. With lots and lots of Corbin  Fat Freddy's Cat #1-4 Rip Off Press 1988 Gathers all the Gilbert Shelton stories together. Purrr Fear and Laughter 1977 Even Dave Stevens got into the underground press (2 pages). Hosted by Hunter S Toxin, the Mondo Journalist, this issue also includes great work from William Stout,Scott Shaw,Rick Geary,Larry Todd,Carol Lay and John Pound. An extremely impressive line up of talent  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 13:20:50 GMT -5
Onward
#5 is an all marijuana issue with a Omaha The Cat Dancer appearance.Monte (son of Basil) Wolverton does the back cover. Charles Burns does the front cover is man, its DOPE  Huh, I thought I had all the appearances, but I don't have this. Thanks for the heads up, to the top of my want list! |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 2, 2014 15:12:32 GMT -5
Underground Comix-no decompressed,18 issue,crossover epics here Feds 'N Heads #1 1968 Gilbert Shelton Its Gilbert from beginning to end and his Fabulous Freak Brothers,Wonder Wart Hog and more.Classic  Fever Dreams 1972 Cover and half the book by Rich Corbin.John Adkins Richardson supplies the rest and its very good art in the barbarian mode  50's Funnies 1980 with a William Stout cover. Happy Days never looked like this I Sold My Soul for Rock N Roll by Scott Shaw Bullet For A Doll by Tom Yeates Mickey Spllane style Forgotten Monster Movie Posters from the 50s with Rick Veitch,John Totleben and more A rediscovered 1950s SF comic story bt Dave Hunt and Alfredo Alcala Turf by Will Meugniot This mag is hysterically funny and an awesome cast of creators  Fog City Comics #2 (1978) & #3 (1979) an SF and fantasy anthology #2 includes Bill Boates (I'm impressed with his work), Rand (Harold Hedd) Holmes and George Metzger #3 is 64 pages by the same fellows and also reprints some of their work from late 1960s fanzines like Star Studded Comics  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:25:16 GMT -5
Whoa, I KNOW I have a copy of 50's Funnies somewhere. I bought it especially for the Ed Gein comic. I wonder why it's not in my undergrounds box? I have to go through my collection again.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 3, 2014 7:10:48 GMT -5
Thats a big box of undergrounds in my closet The Forty Year Old Hippie #2 by Ted Richards 1979 He'll turn 75 later this year  The Freak Brothers-The Fabulous Furry Collected #1 (1971) thru #11 (1990). All of Gilbert Shelton's famed strip including Fat Freddie's Cat from the beginning as a newspaper strip in the L.A. Free Press and up. Starting with #8 are color stories and seem to be originals as well Fresh Blood Funny Book 1978 by J Michael Leonard. Last Gasp Pubs. Who is this J Michael Leonard? He's got a very pleasing,funny style of art Haven't heard of him since. Another talented cartoonist swept away in the mists of time  Fuktup Funnies #1 1972 by Marty Nelson. Just like J Micael Leonard above, another talented artist I've never heard of since. It’s a shame that these guys went on to other things and we never got to see them work on Iron Man  Funny Aminals #1 1972 Art Spiegelman has a 3 page Maus story here. Is this the first appearance years before Raw magazine? Besides that we get Crumb, Fleniken's Trots & Bonnie and J Lynch's Stinky Pig. A collector's item. But the first Maus story appearing in a comic titled Funny Aminals is a bit ironic  |
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Post by MDG on Sept 3, 2014 12:57:21 GMT -5
I've got a short box just about full of undergrounds that I've been meaning to pull out and re-read. (BTW, I consider "underground" as before '77 or so, when comic shops started to proliferate and all kinds of "alternative" comics started being published. I look at Arcade as kind've signalling the end of the real underground era.
Ironically,my undergrounds are probably the oldest books that I bought "off the stands"--or more accurately, mail order, at comic shows and a few at head shops--since most of my DCs and Gold Key's fell apart by this time from re-reading and got thrown out. I think I was 14 or 15 when I started picking them up, mainly to get Corben artwork, but I also got the Apex Treasury and collected Bijou comix at bookstores. (I also got The Snatch Sampler at a Brentanos, I think, which, although i think I was 18 by that time, is hard to believe was sold in a mass market bookstore.)
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 3, 2014 14:51:46 GMT -5
I can confirm that the 3 page story by Art Spiegleman in Funny Aminals #1 (1972) was the original story for Maus. Art was asked to contribute a story about racism and was going to depict a tale involving the KKK. However he changed it to Nazis as pigs and their treatment of Jewish mice in WW2 Poland. Art showed his father the completed story which led to long conversations with his dad on his experiences in the Warsaw Ghetto. Art then serialized the story for Raw Magazine which then became a Pulitzer winning novel. Certainly an underground comic of social import
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 3, 2014 18:32:54 GMT -5
What is or isn't an underground comic. It was pretty easy to determine thru the 70s as they were not sold on newstands but rather thru various head shops,records stores or other establishments that dealt with the counter-culture. When comic stores began to open by the 80s some began to order undergrounds as well. A good thing too because local laws started to close many of the old head shops and underground titles and publishers began to close shop.This was now a more conservative Ronald Reagan America and the underground lifestyle was becoming passe. Certain publishers hung on like Last Gasp and Kitchen Sink. I can give you my personel point of views and thats all it means. Last Gasp means underground. Kitchen Sink as well with exceptions (like Will Eisner stuff).And of course anything by the masters like Crumb,Spiegleman,Bode,Spain,S Clay Williams. Corbin at some point I no longer considered underground but I can't say when. Fantagraphics Eros Comic-Emphatically not. Their initial output was all reprints like the Wally Wood stuff or European reprints.I can't consider Fantagrahics as an underground publisher anymore than if DC decided to jump into the game. Especially since Fantagraphics went that route strictly for the money to help subsidize their other books that don't make all lot of money. Heavy Metal is not an underground. Especially since its sold on newstands. Raw magazine-yes,Omaha The Cat Dancer-yes. Echoes of Futurepast-er I don't think so. Cherry,Horney Biker Sluts-yes and yes.Undergrounds at least in spirit continued into the 90s but only found at you're local comic shop. Yes they certainly changed. They lost the emphasis on politics and drug use and just kept the sex and social parody. Well thats just my thoughts.Anyway a few more for today Gory Stories Quarterly # 2 1/2 1972 A J. Pound cover and story. A 3pg Crumb piece. Scott Shaw and his The Turd opus. Also a pictorial parade of potties, as in toilets  Griffith Observatory #1 1979 A Bill Griffith compendium  Grim Wit #1 1972 All Corbin front to back  |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Sept 3, 2014 18:53:12 GMT -5
Corben is about as far Underground as I've explored so I suppose my opinion must be taken with a whole shaker of salt, but I'd say that he's always straddled the line between underground and mainstream. His sort of default style of overly sexualized human forms I think puts him underground but at the same time he has consistently worked for publishers like Warren, DC and Marvel for short stints through out his career so it would seem to be hard to say, "This is when he left the the Underground!".
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Post by Rob Allen on Sept 3, 2014 20:09:11 GMT -5
I love the undergrounds, so I'm taking time that I don't really have to show some of my collection, following Ish's lead by posting them alphabetically. Before I start, there's one thing I need to get off my chest: CORBENHis name is spelled C-O-R-B- E-N. You'll be seeing his name in many of my posts here. Amazon Comics - all Foolbert Sturgeon (Frank Stack)  Anomaly #4 - this was the only issue published by Bud Plant and distributed widely; I've never seen the first three. Couldn't find a good image of the actual cover so here's the original Corben painting that was used for the cover:  The contents were all written by Jan Strnad with art by Corben and Kline. Arcade, the Comics Revue I have issues 1-6, and while writing this discovered (or more likely rediscovered) that there was a seventh issue. Will have to find that some day. Tales of the Armorkins - all Larry Todd except for a back cover by Trina Robbins.  On to the B's tomorrow (I hope) - Balloon Vendor, Bizarre Sex, Bijou, Binky Brown, Barbarian Killer Funnies, etc. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 3, 2014 20:19:04 GMT -5
I was wondering when we'd get comments from the learned Rob Allin, um Rob Allen-excuse me.
I'd love to see you fill in with whats missing from my stash. And any other tidbits you care to impart |
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 3, 2014 20:53:38 GMT -5
I missed out on the undergrounds and have only been able to get a few here and there where I can.
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Post by fanboystranger on Sept 3, 2014 22:03:33 GMT -5
50's Funnies 1980 with a William Stout cover. Happy Days never looked like this I Sold My Soul for Rock N Roll by Scott Shaw Bullet For A Doll by Tom Yeates Mickey Spllane style Forgotten Monster Movie Posters from the 50s with Rick Veitch,John Totleben and more A rediscovered 1950s SF comic story bt Dave Hunt and Alfredo Alcala Turf by Will Meugniot This mag is hysterically funny and an awesome cast of creators This has just become my favorite comics cover of all time. Will be saving it for future use in cover competitions. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 23:20:27 GMT -5
I'm loving the cover photos from everyone in this thread.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 4, 2014 3:15:35 GMT -5
They just keep on truckin' Harold Hedd #2 1973 and Harold Head in Hitler's Cocaine #1 and #2 1984 in color. Rand Holms is from the Wally Wood school of art and Wally would be proud.A doper version of Airboy. Harold was popular enough to come back 10 years later for a 2 issue mini.  Home Grown Funnies 1971 An all Robert Crumb comic as Whiteman meets Bigfoot and Angelfood McDevilsfood costars  Hup #1 and #2 1987 Both all Crumb issues with The Mighty Power Fems ,If I Were King , The Meeting,Ruff Tuff Cream Puffs Take Charge and more  |
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