Post by Polar Bear on Feb 11, 2017 21:57:03 GMT -5
Our guardian angel Kurt (Cei-U) has truly done amazing work with the original, pre-Crisis Earth-Two over the years. However, there's a question I asked on PM that I asked if I could share with the larger group, and he didn't object.
The pre-Crisis Earth-Two (as distinguished from the New 52's Earth-2, which uses a numeral instead of a word) & its characters have shown up a few times post-Crisis. This is the most complete list I've been able to collect. Feel free to add others:
-Last Days of the Justice Society 1, pub. 1986, apparently set c. 1986: Most of the JSA is sent off to fight Surter forever.
-Infinity Inc. #30: Infinity Inc. mourns the JSA & the last effects of the Crisis shift into place, present-day.
-All-Star Squadron #61: The last effects of the Crisis shift into place, WWII-era.
-Armageddon: Inferno 3-4, pub. 1992: Attempts to undo Last Days, but gives us back a JSA that's most definitely post-Crisis, placing them in DC's regular continuity.
-Zero Hour 4-0, pub. 1994: Collapses the Hawkmen (eliminating the GA one altogether) & ages many JSAers out of existence or at least out of fighting ability. The JSA gets its own series anyway in 1999, another group among many on the post-Crisis New Earth.
-JSA Classified 1-4 (starring Power Girl), pub. 2005: Though set on New Earth, Psycho-Pirate talks clearly of Earth-Two, also establishing clearly that PG is actually an Earth-Two character, despite the fact that Earth-Two has never existed. Except it might, soon.
-Infinite Crisis 6, pub. 2005: A few JSAers on Alexander Luthor's newly-minted "Earth Two" (Mark II) vaguely recall that they were once residents of Earth-Two.
-52 #52, pub. 2006, has a vignette establishing that Earth-Two is back (as are other earths). Huntress and Robin are alive, despite having died under some falling rubble in Crisis on Infinite Earths #12.
-JSA (2007 series) #17-20 and Annual #1, pub. 2008, but apparently set c. 1988: Suddenly Earth-Two is back in all its glory, like it'd never left, Huntress and all, and there's no sign that the older JSAers were ever sent away to fight Surter for even a month or two.
-JLA Retroactive: The 70s #1, pub. 2011, set c. 1978-1979 based on Zatanna's presence & costume. An "untold story."
-Convergence: Action, Detective, Infinity Inc., Justice Society of America, World's Finest, and arguably Plastic Man & the Freedom Fighters (all #1-2), pub. 2015, apparently set c. 1987. Again, we have Huntress & Robin (E2) alive, and the older JSAers are here instead of fighting Surtur.
My big questions: Why are Robin & Huntress alive when they died in CoIE #12? Is the post-Crisis Earth-Two the REAL Earth-Two ... in other words, should this all be official Earth-Two continuity, or is this all Alt-Earth-Two? What's the status of the (newly-reprinted) Last Days of the Justice Society? And has Superboy been at that darned wall again?
The pre-Crisis Earth-Two (as distinguished from the New 52's Earth-2, which uses a numeral instead of a word) & its characters have shown up a few times post-Crisis. This is the most complete list I've been able to collect. Feel free to add others:
-Last Days of the Justice Society 1, pub. 1986, apparently set c. 1986: Most of the JSA is sent off to fight Surter forever.
-Infinity Inc. #30: Infinity Inc. mourns the JSA & the last effects of the Crisis shift into place, present-day.
-All-Star Squadron #61: The last effects of the Crisis shift into place, WWII-era.
-Armageddon: Inferno 3-4, pub. 1992: Attempts to undo Last Days, but gives us back a JSA that's most definitely post-Crisis, placing them in DC's regular continuity.
-Zero Hour 4-0, pub. 1994: Collapses the Hawkmen (eliminating the GA one altogether) & ages many JSAers out of existence or at least out of fighting ability. The JSA gets its own series anyway in 1999, another group among many on the post-Crisis New Earth.
-JSA Classified 1-4 (starring Power Girl), pub. 2005: Though set on New Earth, Psycho-Pirate talks clearly of Earth-Two, also establishing clearly that PG is actually an Earth-Two character, despite the fact that Earth-Two has never existed. Except it might, soon.
-Infinite Crisis 6, pub. 2005: A few JSAers on Alexander Luthor's newly-minted "Earth Two" (Mark II) vaguely recall that they were once residents of Earth-Two.
-52 #52, pub. 2006, has a vignette establishing that Earth-Two is back (as are other earths). Huntress and Robin are alive, despite having died under some falling rubble in Crisis on Infinite Earths #12.
-JSA (2007 series) #17-20 and Annual #1, pub. 2008, but apparently set c. 1988: Suddenly Earth-Two is back in all its glory, like it'd never left, Huntress and all, and there's no sign that the older JSAers were ever sent away to fight Surter for even a month or two.
-JLA Retroactive: The 70s #1, pub. 2011, set c. 1978-1979 based on Zatanna's presence & costume. An "untold story."
-Convergence: Action, Detective, Infinity Inc., Justice Society of America, World's Finest, and arguably Plastic Man & the Freedom Fighters (all #1-2), pub. 2015, apparently set c. 1987. Again, we have Huntress & Robin (E2) alive, and the older JSAers are here instead of fighting Surtur.
My big questions: Why are Robin & Huntress alive when they died in CoIE #12? Is the post-Crisis Earth-Two the REAL Earth-Two ... in other words, should this all be official Earth-Two continuity, or is this all Alt-Earth-Two? What's the status of the (newly-reprinted) Last Days of the Justice Society? And has Superboy been at that darned wall again?
