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Post by EdoBosnar on Oct 25, 2019 13:27:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I loved the Filmation Tarzan cartoon as well; that's what actually got me to start picking up the comics (being published by Marvel at the time) and then to the books.
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Post by beccabear67 on Oct 25, 2019 14:37:21 GMT -5
We had some of the paperbacks, I know we had the first Mars one, and I still have some of those short Ace editions with the Roy Krenkel art... Lost World I &II, Cave Girl, Land Of Hidden Men, and a couple Carson Of Venus. I liked the DC Tarzan and Korak comics; Korak had Kaluta doing Carson Of Venus in the back, and sometimes there was Russ Heath or reprints of Russ Manning from the newspaper strip! Of the Marvels I only ever had a John Carter annual (long ferry ride, and somewhere I lost the comic not long after that but at least I'd read it). No idea how they (Marvel) did with Tarzan but without Kubert I might not even be interested at all. I'm more aware of ERB but not a major fan of it... I keep his books next to H. Rider Haggard's.
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Post by dbutler69 on Oct 25, 2019 15:19:56 GMT -5
My first experience with ERB was the Saturday morning Tarzan cartoon in the late 70's and early 80's. Loved it! It was my favorite cartoon for a while. And frankly, it was more faithful to the books than a lot of the movies. I've read a handful of Marvel/DC Tarzan comics in recent years, but none, or maybe one, back in the day. I don't I've ever seen one of the old movies. In the past few years, I've read the first few ERB Tarzan novels and the first two or three John Carter novels. I've read maybe the first John Cart Marvel comic somewhat recently, too. So overall, the vast majority of my ERB experience as a youth was the cartoon, and I've only in the past 5 years really gone beyond that with the original novels and a handful of the 70's comics. The Filmation Tarzan is a superb example of a cartoon treating the original concept with respect in honoring it's origin while creating something interesting for the "new"current" generation who may have never seen or heard of it before. From design to voice work and look and tone, the Tarzan Cartoon (like the Filmation Flash Gordon) only enhances and promotes further exploration into the alrady existing books or comic books or movies. I'll have to out the Filmation Flash Gordon.
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Post by berkley on Oct 25, 2019 17:16:58 GMT -5
For me there is some "comfort" in a formula in fiction when reading the same character. It "feels" right. Like James Bond. You know he will find a beautiful woman in every story. He will drive an amazing car. He will say "Bond, James Bond" & "shaken not stirred". And you probably have a smile on your face when you read/hear those lines. Absolutely! A friend and I wrote a James Bond novel as a High School project, and we really stuck to the formula typical of the movies. As that was in the early 80s, we felt quite happy with ourselves to see our ideas used in later Bond movies. (Not that we were that creative... it's just that according to the part of the formula that says "chase using a vehicle not seen before in the series", a snowmobile was due to show up eventually). I'd like to read that novel!
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Post by berkley on Oct 25, 2019 17:18:04 GMT -5
Don't think I ever knew about those Flash Gordon and Tarzan cartoons, must look out for them.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 25, 2019 18:54:12 GMT -5
Absolutely! A friend and I wrote a James Bond novel as a High School project, and we really stuck to the formula typical of the movies. As that was in the early 80s, we felt quite happy with ourselves to see our ideas used in later Bond movies. (Not that we were that creative... it's just that according to the part of the formula that says "chase using a vehicle not seen before in the series", a snowmobile was due to show up eventually). I'd like to read that novel! It’s reviewed here, but it’s honestly not that good. It was just a lot of fun to make!
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Post by berkley on Oct 25, 2019 20:57:44 GMT -5
I'd like to read that novel! It’s reviewed here, but it’s honestly not that good. It was just a lot of fun to make!
Thanks, that was really cool. I'd still read it!
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 26, 2019 0:12:53 GMT -5
Here's the original prime time movie of the Filmation Flash Gordon....
It was commissioned first; but, NBC was so impressed with the footage they asked for a series; so, they broke the plot across about the first 4 episodes, minus some of the more violent things and without the opening, in Warsaw, then produced new episodes, using footage from the film for battle scenes.
At least a third of Tarzan is available from the Warner archive, released when the most recent film came out. They haven't collected any further episodes, though.
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Post by lobo on Jan 29, 2021 18:18:57 GMT -5
Does anyone here have any idea where I might download digital copies of the Tarzan illustrated text features from the old 1939-1941 Dell "Popular Comics" and "Crackajack Funnies"? There were 27 in all, running 1 to 3 pages of text story (a rewrite by an unidentified author of ERB's "Tarzan, Lord Of The Jungle") with several comic illustrations in each comic.
There are several sites on the internet that allow you to download entire Golden Age comics for free, but all Tarzan stories have been removed from them for copyright reasons. The large Burroughs webzine, "ERBzine" has hundreds of old Tarzan, John Carter, and other ERB comics for page by page download, along with countless old Sunday and daily Tarzan comic strips, but the illustrated text features aren't among them.
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Post by profh0011 on Jan 29, 2021 19:31:18 GMT -5
I never found out that Gray Morrow had done the TARZAN strip until after he passed away. None of the Philly papers had run TARZAN in my lifetime, but there was one in Gloucester County that did. But we gave up having to make special trips once a week just to get a Sunday paper, so the last I ever saw was Mike Grell (who, while STIFF, was a gigantic improvement over the ugly, ugly run by Gil Kane. My God, even the COLORS were ugly, which convinced me Kane was coloring his own work on there.)
Turns out Morrow did the strip for 20 YEARS. I have read some nice chunks of it posted online.
I don't know if the ERB Zine site has the Morrow strips posted, but as far as I know, they do have all 10 years of Russ Manning at their site. I read that entire run on their site some years ago. Manning's my favorite, ever since I first saw his work in the Gloucester County paper. My Dad knew someone at work who'd bring in the paper on Mondays, and give Dad the comics section. When that guy retired, it became my job to drive one county over to a box that sold the papers. I did that from Manning to Kane to Grell.
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Post by profh0011 on Jan 29, 2021 19:42:17 GMT -5
The Filmation FLASH GORDON animated cartoon was an interesting story which most are unaware of, because since the late 80s, there's been a mis-information campaign connected with it.
In the mid-70s, Filmation wanted to escape the Saturday morning "ghetto" which saw them in a competition with Hanna-Barbera, doing increasingly-cheaper and cheaper cartoons, and with INSANE censorship preventing them from telling exciting, fun adventure stories.
They acquired the rights to FLASH GORDON, and set about creating a FEATURE FILM, aimed at general audiences (not kids!). Almost in the manner of Hammer Films in the 60s, they got about a third of the film done and tried using that to find a distributor to put up the rest of the production costs. But nobody in America would touch it. "Cartoons are ONLY for kids!" was the attitude.
They found a savior in the form of Raphaella DeLaurentis, who ran her father Dino's distribution company. She loved it, and agreed to put up the rest of production costs to finish the film, in exchange for the theatrical distribution rights.
This is important to remember. There've been a lot of "stories"-- ALL erroneous-- claiming that George Lucas was unable to obtain the rights because Dino already had them. This is B***S***. Lucas was unable to AFFORD to get them, and decided to do his own "original" film instead, which, creatively speaking, was no doubt a wise move.
Anyway, Dino had NEVER HEARD of FLASH GORDON. And he LOVED what he saw. The film was a success in theatres in Europe, but nobody in America wanted it. "Too violent and sexy for kids!" Dino loved what he saw so much... he decided to MAKE HIS OWN live-action version of it, and because of the way he operated, managed to get it from idea to OPENING DAY in less than a year. Nobody in Hollywood could have managed that at the time (except maybe Roger Corman.... heh.)
That's right. The Filmation feature led directly to the creation of the live-action film.
Anyway, theatres & TV in America were not interested in the filmation feature. So, they decided to turn it into a Saturday morning TV series... by doing a TON of new material. Only the tiniest fraction of the feature made it onto TV.
Until 3 YEARS later, when NBC finally ran it on a Friday night in prime time. That's when I taped it. The weekly cartoon wasn't bad. The feature film was the SINGLE BEST THING Filmation ever did. But it's been forever over-shadowed by the live-action feature made a year later.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 29, 2021 21:33:42 GMT -5
There are several sites on the internet that allow you to download entire Golden Age comics for free, but all Tarzan stories have been removed from them for copyright reasons. Unfortunately, there's your answer. If there are sites that illegally distribute copyrighted material, it would be against forum policy to share it here. Very glad to have you aboard, lobo.
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Post by profh0011 on Jan 30, 2021 22:07:12 GMT -5
Just checked. By the look of it, the ERB ZINE site still has a MOUNTAIN of classic " TARZAN" comic-strips, dailies and Sundays, all posted online for free. www.erbzine.com/comics/They're also doing BRAND-NEW Tarzan strips, which one can read by subsciption.
This remains one of the BIGGEST comics-related sites I have ever seen! And it's all focused on the characters created by ONE man!
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