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Post by String on Jun 20, 2016 17:43:08 GMT -5
Don't look now but they are going for about $15 a pop in VF+ now, with #9 (1rst Machine Man) running $50+ in places and the Treasury more than that, so no, not cheap any more in high grade. -M Eh, grade isn't that important to me, as long as an issue is readable I'm good. Agreed. I just won a decent reading copy of 2001 #1 for 99 cents off eBay, just to see if it's something I want to read more of or all of it. (Though BaB's review has me leaning towards tracking all of it down).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 18:22:01 GMT -5
Eh, grade isn't that important to me, as long as an issue is readable I'm good. Agreed. I just won a decent reading copy of 2001 #1 for 99 cents off eBay, just to see if it's something I want to read more of or all of it. (Though BaB's review has me leaning towards tracking all of it down). So what is the actual cost of the book after shipping? Because you do have to factor that in to what the book actually costs vs. what you would pay at a brick and mortar store or convention where you are not paying shipping. When I was selling off a lot of Silver and Bronze boos on ebay, the number one issue (more than grading) was shipping costs vs. value of the book and how they could get it cheaper if they weren't paying shipping (I sent priority and charged exact shipping no handling because my local post office was very strict with no comics sent via media mail to the point they would open up and inspect media mail parcels if they thought comics were being shipped so media mail was not an option). Total out of pocket expense to get the book includes shipping so the cost is likely more than 99 cents for you I am guessing. Also, as I have observed before, the divide inpricing between high grad eand mid-low grade is getting wider and wider, and there is a certain trend which puts VF as mid-grade now (i.e. anything below a 9.0 is not high grade in certain circles) and prices as yo umove up from 9.0 get higher and higher and down from it get lower by even larger large degrees where it's at the point unless it is Golden Age of a Silver Key anything below a 3.0 is dirt cheap no matter what it is and doesn't reflect the value/pricing of the book in higher grades. So it doesn't surprise me a lower grade Bronze book (of any sot let alone 2001) is going for about a buck, because anymore than that and it would be above cost at cons or stores once shipping charges are added to the price. -M
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Post by String on Jun 21, 2016 20:16:29 GMT -5
Shipping was $3.78 for First Class bringing the total cost to $4.77.
Which is perfectly acceptable to me. Shipping rates are a consideration but are not my primary one. For single issue purchases, even for two, shipping costs of around 6 bucks or less depending on the options available by the seller are fine with me. It's when you get into auctions for single issues where the shipping costs rise over 10 dollars or more that I start to question them. If I were going after a bulk lot of comics, then I would understand such rates to a degree but not for a single issue.
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Post by Calamas on Jun 24, 2016 22:00:28 GMT -5
I’ve got to admit I’m surprised at the final results. I expected a tight grouping and ties at every position. There wasn’t a tie until 3rd place and Kamandi ran away with it, almost double 2nd place. I always liked Kamandi but I don’t remember it being that superior to the rest of Kirby’s work. Maybe I should look at it again.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 24, 2016 23:25:55 GMT -5
It might help that Kamandi was the longest lived of all the titles.
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Post by shaxper on Jun 25, 2016 15:06:03 GMT -5
I’ve got to admit I’m surprised at the final results. I expected a tight grouping and ties at every position. There wasn’t a tie until 3rd place and Kamandi ran away with it, almost double 2nd place. I always liked Kamandi but I don’t remember it being that superior to the rest of Kirby’s work. Maybe I should look at it again. The reason Kamandi stands out as my favorite (though New Gods is an extremely close second) is because the post apocalyptic landscape of the series allowed Jack to introduce a brilliant new premise every single issue. Every city Kamandi passed through was it's own Kirby premise that could have warranted it's own series. Long running as it was, every story was a premise you wished Jack could spend more time on.
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Post by berkley on Jun 25, 2016 15:48:17 GMT -5
I’ve got to admit I’m surprised at the final results. I expected a tight grouping and ties at every position. There wasn’t a tie until 3rd place and Kamandi ran away with it, almost double 2nd place. I always liked Kamandi but I don’t remember it being that superior to the rest of Kirby’s work. Maybe I should look at it again. The only reason I'm not surprised is that I've seen many times in the past how popular Kamandi is. I think one reason is that the teenage protagonist and the animal characters appeal to a lot of comics fans. Also, it's a relatively straightforward scenario, as opposed to the New Gods or the Eternals, which can take some effort on the part of the reader to get his/her head around. Kamandi is probably the easiest Kirby creation for readers who don't normally like Kirby to get into.
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Post by Confessor on Jun 26, 2016 9:32:43 GMT -5
What's the dialogue and writing like in Kamandi? From the little I've seen, Jack Kirby's post Marvel comics like New Gods, OMAC etc could be really verbose, with lots of clunky dialogue to wade through. I am kind of intrigued by the look of Kamandi, but not sure I can handle Jack's writing.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jun 27, 2016 14:04:37 GMT -5
What's the dialogue and writing like in Kamandi? From the little I've seen, Jack Kirby's post Marvel comics like New Gods, OMAC etc could be really verbose, with lots of clunky dialogue to wade through. I am kind of intrigued by the look of Kamandi, but not sure I can handle Jack's writing. These are decades-old memories, but I seem to recall that Kamandi was less verbose than the Fourth World and OMAC. The emphasis in Kamandi was more on action. Things happened at a fast pace - new situations and new species every issue, and not much time devoted to exploring any of them in depth.
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Post by String on Jun 28, 2016 9:12:43 GMT -5
The first issue of 2001 was trippy, especially with the his conception of the 'New Seed'. Definitely worth checking out more of the series though.
Based on their respective first issues, I enjoyed Kamandi more than OMAC. OMAC was more serious, had a slightly darker tone with the truth of Buddy's friendship with Lily revealing a corrupting influence in this future state. Kamandi was just fun, lots of action, great shots and scenery with cool characters and concepts. The world map that he included at the end hints at what is to come.
Unlike with New Gods apparently, did DC ever properly fit OMAC's 'The World That is Coming' or Kamandi's 'Great Cataclysm' into their overall timeline?
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Post by berkley on Jun 28, 2016 16:42:17 GMT -5
What's the dialogue and writing like in Kamandi? From the little I've seen, Jack Kirby's post Marvel comics like New Gods, OMAC etc could be really verbose, with lots of clunky dialogue to wade through. I am kind of intrigued by the look of Kamandi, but not sure I can handle Jack's writing. These are decades-old memories, but I seem to recall that Kamandi was less verbose than the Fourth World and OMAC. The emphasis in Kamandi was more on action. Things happened at a fast pace - new situations and new species every issue, and not much time devoted to exploring any of them in depth. That's how I remember it as well, and partly why I think it's a good Kirby series to try out for sceptics. Though, like you, it's been quite a while since I read them. I never have read it all from start to finish, having only finished filling all the holes in the Kirby run a few years ago.
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