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Post by shaxper on Feb 20, 2016 23:42:41 GMT -5
 Published: June 1996 Synopsis: Priest Sanshobo tells Usagi his origin. Notes: Origin of Priest Sanshobo Discuss the issue and/or post full reviews below! |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 26, 2016 21:53:16 GMT -5
This was a powerful little story, the priest's son sacrificed his own life to save the honor of his family's name. I just can't wrap my head around that kind of dedication.
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Post by brutalis on Feb 21, 2017 9:16:17 GMT -5
This story is wrapped in honor and duty in a very messed up way. That the now ex-samurai turned priest Sanshobo seemingly failed in his duty to protect the son of his master and so then lose his own son in "honoring" the debt is misguided honor. Even more chilling, Sanshobo's son willingly leaped to his own death to fulfill his father's idea of honor. How wrong is this sense of honor and duty that a child would give up his own life in beliefs he has been taught and raised under? Yes this was the way of the samurai at the time which i can and do understand, and yet also i thing that having blind total service to a belief is wrong.
Did Sanshobo teach his son of honor and duty or did he simply program him to blindly follow without any question in his father's footsteps? This is what good parable's do: create unending thought and pondering of deep consideration's upon how we live life and the choices we may make...
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Post by shaxper on Feb 23, 2017 12:52:18 GMT -5
This story is wrapped in honor and duty in a very messed up way. That the now ex-samurai turned priest Sanshobo seemingly failed in his duty to protect the son of his master and so then lose his own son in "honoring" the debt is misguided honor. Even more chilling, Sanshobo's son willingly leaped to his own death to fulfill his father's idea of honor. How wrong is this sense of honor and duty that a child would give up his own life in beliefs he has been taught and raised under? Yes this was the way of the samurai at the time which i can and do understand, and yet also i thing that having blind total service to a belief is wrong. Did Sanshobo teach his son of honor and duty or did he simply program him to blindly follow without any question in his father's footsteps? This is what good parable's do: create unending thought and pondering of deep consideration's upon how we live life and the choices we may make... One of the fascinating challenges in reading the world of Miyamoto Usagi is how different its sense of morality is from our own. When Sanshobo's son makes that sacrifice, it wouldn't be seen as "misguided" from the perspective of anyone living in that time period. Nevertheless, it feels supremely wrong to us as modern day readers. |
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Post by brutalis on Feb 23, 2017 13:38:11 GMT -5
This story is wrapped in honor and duty in a very messed up way. That the now ex-samurai turned priest Sanshobo seemingly failed in his duty to protect the son of his master and so then lose his own son in "honoring" the debt is misguided honor. Even more chilling, Sanshobo's son willingly leaped to his own death to fulfill his father's idea of honor. How wrong is this sense of honor and duty that a child would give up his own life in beliefs he has been taught and raised under? Yes this was the way of the samurai at the time which i can and do understand, and yet also i thing that having blind total service to a belief is wrong. Did Sanshobo teach his son of honor and duty or did he simply program him to blindly follow without any question in his father's footsteps? This is what good parable's do: create unending thought and pondering of deep consideration's upon how we live life and the choices we may make... One of the fascinating challenges in reading the world of Miyamoto Usagi is how different its sense of morality is from our own. When Sanshobo's son makes that sacrifice, it wouldn't be seen as "misguided" from the perspective of anyone living in that time period. Nevertheless, it feels supremely wrong to us as modern day readers. Misguided sums it up nicely. I can understand the time and actions but you are correct in that modern thinking the idea of "mindless" devotion without sufficient thought to the alternatives and final outcome gives us significant head scratching. Makes perfect sense in the instance: a life for a life, a son for a son and yet it is so completely "wrong" at the same time. It is Sanshobo's interpretation of what HE believes (and thereby instilled into his son's thinking) should be done in repayment. Sanshobo's mistake is paid for by his son but what would have Sanshobo done if he had not taken his son along? Totally different outcome at that moment or would the answer be different based upon what Sanshobo's lord and master thinks is right and appropriate after the fact? Why is the son to pay for the father? What about having independent thought and other choices? This is why if there was time travel we in the present could never live in the past: we don't think in the simpler terms of the time and place and we would muck up history and change the course of time from that moment forward... |
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Post by shaxper on Feb 23, 2017 13:44:14 GMT -5
One of the fascinating challenges in reading the world of Miyamoto Usagi is how different its sense of morality is from our own. When Sanshobo's son makes that sacrifice, it wouldn't be seen as "misguided" from the perspective of anyone living in that time period. Nevertheless, it feels supremely wrong to us as modern day readers. Misguided sums it up nicely. I can understand the time and actions but you are correct in that modern thinking the idea of "mindless" devotion without sufficient thought to the alternatives and final outcome gives us significant head scratching. Makes perfect sense in the instance: a life for a life, a son for a son and yet it is so completely "wrong" at the same time. It is Sanshobo's interpretation of what HE believes (and thereby instilled into his son's thinking) should be done in repayment. Sanshobo's mistake is paid for by his son but what would have Sanshobo done if he had not taken his son along? Totally different outcome at that moment or would the answer be different based upon what Sanshobo's lord and master thinks is right and appropriate after the fact? Why is the son to pay for the father? What about having independent thought and other choices? This is why if there was time travel we in the present could never live in the past: we don't think in the simpler terms of the time and place and we would muck up history and change the course of time from that moment forward... I don't know that I'd call it "simpler". Just different. Even in European culture, the importance of the self really didn't gain emphasis in popular culture until the Renaissance. Before that, your individual wants, needs, thoughts, and feelings were largely irrelevant to family and society. You fulfilled your role to family, government, and society, and tried to enjoy yourself with whatever small amount of free time and resources you were granted. If your death served the greater good, the only reason not to die was cowardice. |
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