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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 25, 2016 21:49:30 GMT -5
I always liked the shows where you beat someone with your brain. The old Columbo shows never had a punch thrown. My wife is a big fan of both Hettie Winthrop and Columbo, and wouldn't watch and of the modern cop dramas if you paid her... so you're not the only one.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 25, 2016 21:50:35 GMT -5
I always liked the shows where you beat someone with your brain. The old Columbo shows never had a punch thrown. I hope you and @popzeus have seen Foyle's War. I love it! Seems right up your alleys. www.foyleswar.comFoyle's War (until the last season when it went off the rails) if the best period drama I've ever seen. They fact that it's also a cool cop show is icing on the cake. Of the rest of that list, I liked Inspector Lynley alot.. in alot of cases the show is actually better than the novels. Wallander and Father Brown never did a whole lot for me ,but are both decent (wife is big fans of those too). I've sampled just about all the other british ones, but none really caught my fancy. One that's missing that might be of interest is George Gently.. is a 60s period mystery that's almost as good as Foyle's War as far as setting goes.
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Post by berkley on Dec 25, 2016 23:19:37 GMT -5
Nice to see Republic of Doyle get some attention! I liked it but could never be sure if it because it was actually a good show or just because I'm from Nfld myself and enjoyed hearing the accents and recognising some of the St. John's locations.
Other Canadian crime shows I think might be of interest:
Intelligence - about female head of Vancouver branch of Canadian intelligence, Prime Suspect was cited as a direct influence and model Da Vinci's Inquest - about Vancouver coroner Dominic Da Vinci, same show-creator as Intelligence, Chris Haddock The Romeo Section - Haddock's current show, another espionage series, currently in its 2nd season; his series tend to be quite dark, but there's little on-screen violence Seeing Things - Louis del Grande (guy whose head exploded in Cronenberg's Scanners) is a reporter who gets psychic visions of crimes and then helps solve them; strong comedy element
Also, not Canadian, but if you like crime/adventure mixed with humour, you have to give the 80s English series Minder a try if you haven't already. It's about ex-boxer, ex-con Terry McCann, who scrapes a living by doing body-guard and related work found for him by shady used-car dealer Arthur Daley, one of the greatest comedic characters of tv history, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2016 23:42:46 GMT -5
I'll probably check out Republic of Doyle first if I can find it streaming, but comparing it to Psych is probably setting it up to disappoint. I don't think I can overstate my love of Psych. It is probably my favorite thing (not just show) ever.
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Post by berkley on Dec 26, 2016 0:17:01 GMT -5
This is the first I've heard of Psych, so no idea if RoD is in any way similar in terms of style, content, or quality. Glancing at the first bit of the wiki description, Psych sounds like it's based on a nice premise, so I'll probably check it out.
I think Canadian tv shows in general might feel a little slow and unexciting for anyone brought up exclusively on American tv, but I feel sure that after getting used to the different pace and style, there's a lot there that viewers from other parts of the world could enjoy, depending on their individual tastes.
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Post by berkley on Dec 26, 2016 0:55:40 GMT -5
I'll probably check out Republic of Doyle first if I can find it streaming, but comparing it to Psych is probably setting it up to disappoint. I don't think I can overstate my love of Psych. It is probably my favorite thing (not just show) ever. I just meant that Republic of Doyle has humor too, but it's not like Psych at all really. It's more like The Rockford Files than Psych probably. The worst part of the Republic of Doyle to me is the theme song, but there are awful shows with great theme songs too. Not every show can be like: Inspector Morse Inspector Lewis Wallander Shetland I haven't seen any of those, but I like the Morse, the Lewis, and the Shetland themes on first listen. The Wallander I'm not so sure about - but I have a bit of a prejudice against vocal theme songs for tv series. Whenever I see a show is based on a book series I'm always torn between reading the books first or not.
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Post by the4thpip on Dec 26, 2016 5:16:31 GMT -5
Here is a couple of German theme tune compositions I always liked:
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 26, 2016 12:05:21 GMT -5
I hope you and @popzeus have seen Foyle's War. I love it! Seems right up your alleys. www.foyleswar.comFoyle's War (until the last season when it went off the rails) if the best period drama I've ever seen. They fact that it's also a cool cop show is icing on the cake. Of the rest of that list, I liked Inspector Lynley alot.. in alot of cases the show is actually better than the novels. Wallander and Father Brown never did a whole lot for me ,but are both decent (wife is big fans of those too). I've sampled just about all the other british ones, but none really caught my fancy. One that's missing that might be of interest is George Gently.. is a 60s period mystery that's almost as good as Foyle's War as far as setting goes. George Gently is excellent and really captures the look and feel of the 60s. Martin Shaw is great as the older, grieving detective. Wallander doesn't do a lot for me. It's well acted; but, the cases are so dark and everyone's life seems filled with misery. I get enough of that in the real world.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2016 12:06:51 GMT -5
This is the first I've heard of Psych, so no idea if RoD is in any way similar in terms of style, content, or quality. Glancing at the first bit of the wiki description, Psych sounds like it's based on a nice premise, so I'll probably check it out. It's a really fun show. There's a trio of season finales that skew kinda dark (for Psych), but other than that it's pretty family-friendly (despite most mysteries revolving around murder). Also, and these are two HUGE pluses for me, other than a character who shows up for a few issues late in the run there all the characters are likable and the will they/won't they between Shawn and Juliet is done in such a way that actually feels organic and never really cruel to either character.
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 26, 2016 12:15:30 GMT -5
I hope you and @popzeus have seen Foyle's War. I love it! Seems right up your alleys. www.foyleswar.comFoyle's War ( until the last season when it went off the rails) if the best period drama I've ever seen. They fact that it's also a cool cop show is icing on the cake. I know what you mean. Sometimes you just have to leave well enough alone. And loved it maybe even more for the period drama aspects you mention. Overall, a wonderful series.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Dec 26, 2016 15:45:08 GMT -5
Columbo was by far the best, with an international following. It had smart episodes with great and even legendary actors, including many who never got to play villains. Dick Van Dyke is chilling as a cold-blooded photographer who murders his wife and makes it look like a kidnapping gone wrong. He is able to spar with Columbo all through the show, until he is tripped up, in the end. The Robert Culp and Patrick McGoohan episodes are also fantastic. Culp exudes arrogance in his roles, while McGoohan has that cold intellect and always seems amused by Lt. Columbo, until he is undone by the wiley, rumpled sleuth. I'm very sorry to interrupt. I just have a few things to add. I won't take up very much of your time. I absolutely love Columbo and it's delightful to meet another knowledgeable and unabashed fan. At the heart of it is Peter Falk's performance, which is so perfect and definitive (despite not being the first) that it would seem to preclude the possibility of the character ever being seen again. Unlike much of the weekly fodder we endured in the seventies, the Columbo episodes were very polished films with rich character and camera work, just as you describe. The interplay between the relentless Columbo and his guest stars is delicious, and always there is the tacit understanding conveyed to the audience that the stammering, forgetfulness, and disorganization is little more than a clever ruse. We see flashes of the "real" Columbo when he dresses down a subordinate or interrogates a witness, or even during the "reveal" to a particularly rotten killer, but these are rare. There is a bit of wisdom from Columbo that has stayed with me through the years and has offered a small insight into his methods. The Lieutenant explains: "The police can make mistakes, but the killer has to be perfect. And nobody's perfect."
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 26, 2016 16:14:36 GMT -5
@popzeus, may I suggest also River, a British detective show with a few definite twists?
I also liked Luther quite a bit, with this caveat: after aseason or two (they blend together in my memory), the power and the mystery tend to wear off and the violence becomes a kind of "Can you top this? competition with the previous episode.
And like CSI Vegas, Luther makes it seem as if its home city is a maniac's playground where serial killers are free to spree on a weekly, even nightly basis.
But that first season in particular is riveting.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Dec 26, 2016 16:19:11 GMT -5
I prefer the older adaptions of Sherlock Holmes as well, because of my Dad; who was a Doyle fan. He saw Sherlock before he died and he HATED it with a passion; I can understand why. My first exposure to Sherlock Holmes was looking through The Strand magazine reprints with the Sidney Paget illustrations: Forgive me for intruding again, but now we come to my other favorite detective, the esteemed Mr. Holmes. Some years back, I undertook to read the entire Doyle canon, 50-odd short stories and four novels. I was not pleasant to be around at that time, obsessively questioning my family members about a bit of chalk dust on their sleeves or some candle wax on their shoes, and then making loud, grandiloquent, and unfailingly incorrect assumptions regarding their conduct. But no matter. As a youngster, I would have said that Basil Rathbone was the definitive Holmes, but these days, I agree with Cody that Jeremy Brett in the Granada series best inhabits the character as Doyle presents him. The attention to detail and unflagging respect for the source material in that series is breathtaking. That said, I do not mind many non-canonical approaches to the Great Detective. Nicholas Meyer's "The Seven-Per-cent Solution," Billy Wilder's "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes," Barry Levinson's "Young Sherlock Holmes," and even the recent "Sherlock" all have their amusements, though I can certainly understand their not having universal appeal.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 26, 2016 16:21:49 GMT -5
@popzeus , may I suggest also River, a British detective show with a few definite twists? I also liked Luther quite a bit, with this caveat: after aseason or two (they blend together in my memory), the power and the mystery tend to wear off and the violence becomes a kind of "Can you top this? competition with the previous episode. And like CSI Vegas, Luther makes it seem as if its home city is a maniac's playground where serial killers are free to spree on a weekly, even nightly basis. But that first season in particular is riveting. I loved Luther, too. The seasons being so short, I personally never felt it went on too long... although I was fine with the idea of it ending when it did. Broadchurch is another British show I really enjoyed.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Dec 26, 2016 17:05:01 GMT -5
I loved Luther, too. The seasons being so short, I personally never felt it went on too long... although I was fine with the idea of it ending when it did. I thoroughly enjoyed Luther and was sorry when it ended. I picked up Luther for two reasons. I remembered Idris Elba from The Wire, and I needed something to replace Wire In The Blood, a UK series that starred Robson Green which I cannot recommend highly enough. This was gripping episode after episode, a grim, hunt-the-serial-killer procedural that focused on psychopathy and the inability of law enforcement to predict the unpredictable. It often ended badly for all involved. It was reminiscent of Columbo in that each stand-alone story was 90 minutes, more of a film than a TV show, and had a considerable and apparent budget.
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