Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Dec 9, 2016 21:52:45 GMT -5
Life can truly suck sometimes. One of my neighbour's daughters was found murdered. It didn't happen in the neighbourhood. She was just 20 years old and worked in a bank. I'll be spending some time with the family later on. Awww, hell. That's appalling. They'll need people like you around Razormaid. I don't envy you having to deal with people going through such a loss, but it will doubtless mean a great deal to have you and others there for them. |
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 10, 2016 1:26:57 GMT -5
I understand.  It was very much a societal thing. I get that. But reading it today? When the opening story is Lois Lane and Lana Lang pitted against <running to embrace> each other for Superman's <their mutual affection>, I'll pass, thanks. Maybe if I had read it back in 1958, I probably would have been okay with it. But now, I think I have better reading options to choose from, even if I have to go to more modern reads. Fixed it. For me at least. Seriously ? How does everything keep coming back to these issues ? If it were heterosexual members posting this certain other posters would be ranting. *** shakes head *** |
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Post by Lolatadatodo on Dec 10, 2016 7:46:59 GMT -5
Seriously ?
Has this forum been hijacked by the LGBTQ brigade ? Oh no. Don't be too afraid. LGBTQ folks make up a very small part of the Earth's population. We cishets still own most of the planet.  And our heterosexual love can be found plastered in every comic, tv show, movie, book, etc. How does everything keep coming back to these issues ? I'm gonna guess because of jabs like your quoted portion above. But, I don't know. I could be wrong, but I'm probably not. And the fact that she's had jabs taken at her sexuality for quite a while now, and no one is helping her? Feel free to stop me at any point if I am wrong, and correct me, please. If it were heterosexual members posting this certain other posters would be ranting. *** shakes head *** You mean when heterosexual members say things like this? Not to throw Codystarbuck under the bus, because I honestly don't care about this, I'm not the one with the problem with people talking about their sexuality: Just noticed this; why did Dave steven give Jade a Colt M1911 automatic, if he drew cartridge loops on her gunbelt? Should have given her a revolver, or made it magazine pouches instead of cartridge loops. No matter what, the Colt looks awfully small, next to those other guns!  I am sorry, I am just trying to make sense of why you said what you said, and why I was included in your quote as well.  |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 10, 2016 7:58:55 GMT -5
I was just trying to be cute. There were no femme lesbian couples in comics when I grew up, so I had to use my imagination. I would think about Illyana and Kitty falling in love, because it felt right to me. Yeah, back then homosexuality was pretty hush-hush (or kept in independent comics only). It would be a few years before Lightning Lass and Shrinking Violet became an item. I'm sorry you feel this way, because it's not the case. On the contrary, you should definitely respond to posts you disagree with. Just remember that even a diametrically opposed opinion does not constitute an attack; it is an opinion. When defending our opinions, we neither "win" nor "lose"; the best we can do is to get others to better understand our viewpoint. |
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Post by the4thpip on Dec 10, 2016 9:00:45 GMT -5
Fixed it. For me at least. Seriously ? Has this forum been hijacked by the LGBTQ brigade ? How does everything keep coming back to these issues ? If it were heterosexual members posting this certain other posters would be ranting. *** shakes head *** Yass. We are in your forae, gaying your comix. |
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Post by Pharozonk on Dec 10, 2016 9:03:33 GMT -5
What the hell just happened to this thread? Please don't get this locked like our other "There I Said It Thread."  |
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Post by Lolatadatodo on Dec 10, 2016 9:07:28 GMT -5
What the hell just happened to this thread? I guess hondobrode seems to think that CCF is under attack by the LGBTQIA community? |
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Post by the4thpip on Dec 10, 2016 9:17:35 GMT -5
I was just trying to be cute. There were no femme lesbian couples in comics when I grew up, so I had to use my imagination. I would think about Illyana and Kitty falling in love, because it felt right to me. Yeah, back then homosexuality was pretty hush-hush (or kept in independent comics only). It would be a few years before Lightning Lass and Shrinking Violet became an item. I'm sorry you feel this way, because it's not the case. On the contrary, you should definitely respond to posts you disagree with. Just remember that even a diametrically opposed opinion does not constitute an attack; it is an opinion. When defending our opinions, we neither "win" nor "lose"; the best we can do is to get others to better understand our viewpoint. Thinking back to that , they first made both characters less feminine in appearance. practical hair cuts and more muscle. If they were going to be a lesbian couple, they at least had to be stereotypes . |
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Post by Pharozonk on Dec 10, 2016 9:19:54 GMT -5
Yeah, back then homosexuality was pretty hush-hush (or kept in independent comics only). It would be a few years before Lightning Lass and Shrinking Violet became an item. I'm sorry you feel this way, because it's not the case. On the contrary, you should definitely respond to posts you disagree with. Just remember that even a diametrically opposed opinion does not constitute an attack; it is an opinion. When defending our opinions, we neither "win" nor "lose"; the best we can do is to get others to better understand our viewpoint. Thinking back to that , they first made both characters less feminine in appearance. practical hair cuts and more muscle. If they were going to be a lesbian couple, they at least had to be stereotypes . That's a good point. Then again, Giffen's style at the time made everyone look uglier. Check out poor Chuck for instance:  |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 10, 2016 9:21:38 GMT -5
What the hell just happened to this thread? Please don't get this locked like our other "There I Said It Thread." Pharozonk is right! There! I said it. |
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Post by Pharozonk on Dec 10, 2016 9:27:16 GMT -5
What the hell just happened to this thread? Please don't get this locked like our other "There I Said It Thread." Pharozonk is right! There! I said it. Well that goes without saying.  |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 10, 2016 9:27:40 GMT -5
Yeah, back then homosexuality was pretty hush-hush (or kept in independent comics only). It would be a few years before Lightning Lass and Shrinking Violet became an item. I'm sorry you feel this way, because it's not the case. On the contrary, you should definitely respond to posts you disagree with. Just remember that even a diametrically opposed opinion does not constitute an attack; it is an opinion. When defending our opinions, we neither "win" nor "lose"; the best we can do is to get others to better understand our viewpoint. Thinking back to that , they first made both characters less feminine in appearance. practical hair cuts and more muscle. If they were going to be a lesbian couple, they at least had to be stereotypes . That could be, but Vi had just been discharged from the military and her buzz cut made sense. As for Ayla, she had worn that hairstyle for many years. I don't know, I think both of them were still very feminine. Just, you know, real world feminine and not starving supermodel feminine. |
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Post by the4thpip on Dec 10, 2016 9:30:56 GMT -5
Thinking back to that , they first made both characters less feminine in appearance. practical hair cuts and more muscle. If they were going to be a lesbian couple, they at least had to be stereotypes . That's a good point. Then again, Giffen's style at the time made everyone look uglier. Check out poor Chuck for instance: In related news, "New Guardian" Estraño is in the current Midnighter & Apollo series, and they made him all middle aged distinguished . I have some queer friends who will be happy about that , and some who decidedly won't . |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Dec 10, 2016 9:32:28 GMT -5
At the risk of making it worse ... there's a difference between commenting on your preferred gender and throwing members of the opposing sexual preference under the bus for the actions of the vocal minority of that group. I can chat with pip about the covers he posts in the sexy comic covers just as much as any other poster. And I hope that any member knows their welcome to post in it regardless of their sexual preference. But it's really why CBR became so insufferable. Let's not be CBR. We all are more than our sexuality, skin color or gender. And I don't think anyone here should be put on the chopping block for any of those.
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 10, 2016 9:33:13 GMT -5
Having spent my entire life in a wheelchair, I understand how it feels to have your personal reality ignored by the entertainment industry. Growing up, the *only* role model I was offered was the long-since-dead FDR. In comics, I could choose between The X-Men's Charles Xavier and The Doom Patrol's Niles Caulder, both of whom became disabled rather than being born that way like me. Of the two, I preferred The Chief, who treated his handicap proactively, over the lazy Professor X, who made his students push his wheelchair despite having two fully functional arms. 'cappers started showing up occasionally in 1970s TV and movies but they always amounted to what I call "courageous cripple" stories: an able-bodied actor playing an able-bodied character who must rise above the devastating accident or illness that put them in a chair. At least Raymond Burr took the trouble to study how real paraplegics function day to day before undertaking the role of Ironside (he talked about this at a United Cerebral Palsy conference my mother atttended). There was 1973's "Beg, Borrow or Steal," an ABC Movie of the Week that starred Michael "Mod Squad" Cole, Kent "Adam-12" McCord and Mike "Mannix" Connors, about three handicapped men who pull off a big heist that I found amusing but it was an anomaly. Even today, most portrayals of the disabled are either hopelessly sentimental or insultingly condescending. (Major points, though to NCIS New Orleans for casting real-life paraplegic Daryl "Chill" Mitchell and not making a big fuss over it.) I really wish they'd figure out A) that there's a huge psychological difference between someone born with a disability and someone who acquires it later in life, and B) we come in more flavors than "bitter" and "inspirational."
Cei-U!
Here endeth the rant!
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