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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 1, 2020 14:47:33 GMT -5
I saw the Captain Marvel/Shazam movie on tv and it was a lot of fun. There are quite a few I would say I enjoyed but then I didn't pay anything to see them... had I shelled out $15 or whatever per seat I wonder how I'd feel about some? I did pay on-demand for some of the X-movies (Future Past, the Apocalypse one, and First Class) and thought they worth the $5 (HD). I bought the first three on regular DVD but have kept only the first two. So I guess only the X-Men got my money as far as modern movies go, all the rest were 'free' via cable tv (or in the case of Iron Man 1, a borrowed DVD). I did shell out for DVDs of Pan's Labyrinth and Pacific Rim in non-superhero contrast.
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Post by impulse on Dec 1, 2020 15:08:24 GMT -5
Conroy and Hamill Batman and Joker are best Batman and Joker.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 1, 2020 16:42:43 GMT -5
I saw the Captain Marvel/Shazam movie on tv and it was a lot of fun. There are quite a few I would say I enjoyed but then I didn't pay anything to see them... had I shelled out $15 or whatever per seat I wonder how I'd feel about some? I did pay on-demand for some of the X-movies (Future Past, the Apocalypse one, and First Class) and thought they worth the $5 (HD). I bought the first three on regular DVD but have kept only the first two. So I guess only the X-Men got my money as far as modern movies go, all the rest were 'free' via cable tv (or in the case of Iron Man 1, a borrowed DVD). I did shell out for DVDs of Pan's Labyrinth and Pacific Rim in non-superhero contrast. The latest Shazam movie was weird. I guess his acting like an immature kid is what's supposed to happen but it was annoying. I would have {Spoiler: Click to show}
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Post by Confessor on Dec 2, 2020 11:27:26 GMT -5
To each their own, but I don't want bland, turn your mind off films particularly. I like films that make me think or at least that don't insult my intelligence.
I'm not much of a fan of the MCU, although GotG was a lot of fun (the sequel was dire though). They don't make the MCU films for people like me though: they make them for action film fans and I absolutely hate action films.
I much prefer reading comics to watching comic book movies (with the first two Christopher Reeve Superman films being an exception to that rule).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 14:41:03 GMT -5
To each their own, but I don't want bland, turn your mind off films particularly. I like films that make me think or at least that don't insult my intelligence. I'm not much of a fan of the MCU, although GotG was a lot of fun (the sequel was dire though). They don't make the MCU films for people like me though: they make them for action film fans and I absolutely hate action films. I much prefer reading comics to watching comic book movies (with the first two Christopher Reeve Superman films being an exception to that rule). See, I see the Marvel movies following in the same big budget sci-fi action screen epic tradition that Star Wars laid the foundation for in the summer of '77. Whether they accomplish it anywhere near as well is a matter of personal taste, but they are following in the trail blazed by Lucas and crew. -M |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Dec 2, 2020 14:46:51 GMT -5
To each their own, but I don't want bland, turn your mind off films particularly. I like films that make me think or at least that don't insult my intelligence. I'm not much of a fan of the MCU, although GotG was a lot of fun (the sequel was dire though). They don't make the MCU films for people like me though: they make them for action film fans and I absolutely hate action films. I much prefer reading comics to watching comic book movies (with the first two Christopher Reeve Superman films being an exception to that rule). See, I see the Marvel movies following in the same big budget sci-fi action screen epic tradition that Star Wars laid the foundation for in the summer of '77. Whether they accomplish it anywhere near as well is a matter of personal taste, but they are following in the trail blazed by Lucas and crew. -M Well they're at least doing better than Lucas already since they started from the beginning.  There I said it! |
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Post by Confessor on Dec 2, 2020 15:08:55 GMT -5
To each their own, but I don't want bland, turn your mind off films particularly. I like films that make me think or at least that don't insult my intelligence. I'm not much of a fan of the MCU, although GotG was a lot of fun (the sequel was dire though). They don't make the MCU films for people like me though: they make them for action film fans and I absolutely hate action films. I much prefer reading comics to watching comic book movies (with the first two Christopher Reeve Superman films being an exception to that rule). See, I see the Marvel movies following in the same big budget sci-fi action screen epic tradition that Star Wars laid the foundation for in the summer of '77. Whether they accomplish it anywhere near as well is a matter of personal taste, but they are following in the trail blazed by Lucas and crew. -M That's undoubtedly true, but the success of Star Wars, with it's eye-dazzling special effects and "faster, more intense" directorial style has enabled or emboldened an awful lot of film makers to make terrible films. That doesn't and shouldn't detract from the quality of Star Wars. Blaming the lack of quality in the MCU on Star Wars is like blaming the Monkees on the Beatles. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 15:24:23 GMT -5
See, I see the Marvel movies following in the same big budget sci-fi action screen epic tradition that Star Wars laid the foundation for in the summer of '77. Whether they accomplish it anywhere near as well is a matter of personal taste, but they are following in the trail blazed by Lucas and crew. -M That's undoubtedly true, but the success of Star Wars, with it's eye-dazzling special effects and "faster, more intense" directorial style have enabled or emboldened an awful lot of film makers to make terrible films. That doesn't and shouldn't detract from the quality of Star Wars. Blaming the lack of quality in the MCU on Star Wars is like blaming the Monkees on the Beatles. Well the lack of quality is one of those things that are a matter of personal taste. There are a lot of people who think Star Wars is a terrible movie with stilted performances, bad directing, hokey tropes and little originality that is entirely dependent on its special effects for its appeal. Pretty much the same criticisms people here are making about the MCU films. I happen to disagree with both and like Star Wars and the MCU films, but again that;s my taste not a measure of objective quality. -M |
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Post by berkley on Dec 2, 2020 15:43:20 GMT -5
I think Star Wars tapped into something much more basic, almost archetypal, than any of the Marvel movies have done and that was one reason for its unexpected success.
But I admit that the commercial success of the Marvel films remains something of a puzzle to me. I can see why comics fans such as myself like to watch them but that's a relatively small niche group in the greater scheme of things, so I'm surprised at how they've become such huge mainstream blockbusters
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Post by Duragizer on Dec 2, 2020 15:52:59 GMT -5
I dislike the MCU. I dislike most superhero movies in general. They are tales told by idiots, full of sound and fury, etc, etc. There, I said it (again?). More a Bergman fan, eh? He's one of my favourite filmmakers, actually. |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Dec 2, 2020 17:33:25 GMT -5
I'm with berkly in puzzlement. Comic book readers probably make up one percent of ticket sales in these movies and yet they make millions. Some billions. And I just can't figure it out Other than maybe what Marvel/Disney has been able to do is turn the MCU films in a comic book version of Die Hard/Lethal Weapon/48 hours, and action movies make huge bank for the most part.
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Post by impulse on Dec 2, 2020 18:38:06 GMT -5
I don't think it's too confusing. Just because people outgrew comic books as a medium doesn't mean they stopped liking the characters. Superheroes have had a lot of success in other media formats. TV shows, video games, etc. It makes sense that once technology caught up enough to do them justice that people would like them, especially since people enjoy summer escapist action movies.
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Post by Batflunkie on Dec 2, 2020 19:16:27 GMT -5
I think Star Wars tapped into something much more basic, almost archetypal, than any of the Marvel movies have done and that was one reason for its unexpected success. But I admit that the commercial success of the Marvel films remains something of a puzzle to me. I can see why comics fans such as myself like to watch them but that's a relatively small niche group in the greater scheme of things, so I'm surprised at how they've become such huge mainstream blockbusters I think why they get so huge is because the majority of people are hearing these stories for the first time whereas people like us have been spoiled by what they were based on ad nauseam |
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Dec 2, 2020 20:00:35 GMT -5
Harley Quinn as a member of the Suicide Squad makes no sense, and that's stacked on top of the heighted reality that is comic books. She adds no value to the team. Change my mind.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 2, 2020 20:45:05 GMT -5
She adds more copies sold because of her popularity. It's like Wolverine guest starring in various titles in the 90's.
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