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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 22:16:59 GMT -5
Interesting and thanks for your support!Can't see that phrase and not think of these commercials... -M
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 22:22:16 GMT -5
Interesting and thanks for your support!Can't see that phrase and not think of these commercials... -M You made me laugh!
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 15, 2015 23:09:59 GMT -5
10. Lynda BarryIn my 40+ years of comics fandom, there haven't been many cartoonists who have made me fully committed on first exposure. Lynda Barry is one of those few. After my first sampling of her work, I was devoted. "I will buy anything this woman produces for sale. Sight unseen. She's got me." Lynda's ability to recapture the voice of a precocious, curious, and confused child resonated with me. Her crude but effective art, enthusiastically festooned with frills, annotations, and extras, her ability to convey haunting moments in four panels, everything about her work pushed my buttons. OK, it's "ugly" art, but it's an ugly that draws me in, that merges awkwardness with ambition, that so evokes my memories of how it was to be a kid, how we thought, how we talked, how we processed the world around us. Lynda's "Ernie Pook's Comeek" is a masterpiece that I'd give my wholehearted recommendation to, for any and everyone. Her stuff is real, it's funny, it's touching, it's heartbreaking, it's inspirational.
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 15, 2015 23:27:58 GMT -5
# 10: Steve Dahlman for ElectroIn narrowing my list down I decided that I'd limit myself to one Marvel/DC guy - Not that I don't love it, it gets discussed plenty on these boards - And I figure y'all will have Kubert, Eisner, Everett, Wally, and both of the Jacks covered, right? So I thought I'd go a little more Golden Agey. Which required, at great personal sacrafice, me to lunk some TPBs down to the library to make some scans. I am a hero. Anyway, Dahlman's work is like nothing I've ever seen in the 70 odd years since he was active in the industry. Wildly creative and effective designs combined with a weirdly two-dimensional, almost woodcut influenced style, mashed with a sense of page design that would be impressive by today's standards, and was pretty much unparalleled back in 1940. Sadly, there doesn't seem to be much biographical information about him. In the introduction to the Marvel Mystery Comics volume where these appear, Roy Thomas is oddly dismissive - C'mon, Roy, this is so much better than the Human Torch! - and it seems like he dropped out of comics early in the '40s. Which is a damn shame. This is the same issue with the first, famous Human Torch vs. Sub-Mariner fight; but that's only the SECOND best thing in this comic. How can you not love a page which has a giant octopus menacing a shapely damsel, a bearded scientist and a robot beating up dragon men with a tree all on the same page?! (And I cut out the panel where Electro is juggling the dragon men like tenpins!) I've never heard of this guy, but it's great, like Fletcher Hanks or Basil Wolverton ! Thanks for the heads up, Reptisaurus !
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 15, 2015 23:32:18 GMT -5
10. Frank Miller...for his work on Daredevil I started reading comics in 1989. Mostly (entirely) superhero comics. And they had a feel to them. A feel echoed across every comic I read. Until I read some older comics, comics from the sixties say. And these had a different feel. I liked many, I appreciated most, I've come to love some. But they all felt dated. Things from the forties felt even more dated and things from the seventies sometimes felt dated. Frank Miller's Daredevil does not feel dated. It captured the pacing, storytelling, cinematography, character, and story that I associated with modern superhero comics. Now having read lots and lots of superhero comics, including most of Marvel, it really seems like a turning point. Pretty much every superhero comic after Miller's Daredevil kind of feels like Miller's Daredevil in some ways. And nothing before it does. I think this comic set the standard to be imitated. Moreso than Watchmen, moreso than even X-Men, I think superhero comics for the next couple decades ultimately looked to Miller's run on Daredevil in terms of how to tell a superhero story. In terms of the figure work, Miller's style was excellent, but clearly influenced by the House style of the time. With Ronin, his sci/fi samurai epic masterpiece. He developed a new, more interesting style, and one distinctly his own. We would see this style at work in Dark Knight Returns, Sin City, and 300. All great comics. Sin City was basically his platform for drawing babes, old-fashioned cars and guys in trenchcoats, and 300 captures and revels in the great melodrama of the final stand of 300 Spartans. Frank Miller remains on my list of favorite creators by pretending he has done no work in the last 20 years. I will admit, though an aside from our purposes here, it's really Miller the writer I love. I think his best work is as writer in collaboration with artists I find more talented. I think his Daredevil set the bar, but his true masterpieces are his later work on Daredevil. Man Without Fear with John Romita Jr., Love & War with Bill Sienkiewicz, and of course Born Again with David Mazuchelli, who I consider one of the most talented artists in comicdom. Born Again is easily one of the 10 best superhero stories I have ever read, along with some stories I'll spotlight on Day 10. And, superior to Dark Knight Returns, I think, is Miller and Mazuchelli's masterpiece, Batman: Year One.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 15, 2015 23:46:19 GMT -5
On the third day of Christmas, comics my true love gave to me... Linda Medley for Castle Waiting, the Curse of Brambly Hedge and other stuff... Looking at my list which I now feel committed to, I somewhat regret that it's all-male. I made a shortlist of 36 creators, 34 of whom were male. One of whom the work I would spotlight is a little too new for this contest. If we do this again in a few years, she'll be on it for sure. The other was Linda Medley. Castle Waiting is such a unique story, and truly well-told. I find myself kind of regretting not including Linda in my list. Next time, perhaps.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 23:51:38 GMT -5
On the third day of Christmas, comics my true love gave to me... Linda Medley for Castle Waiting, the Curse of Brambly Hedge and other stuff... Looking at my list which I now feel committed to, I somewhat regret that it's all-male. I made a shortlist of 36 creators, 34 of whom were male. One of whom the work I would spotlight is a little too new for this contest. If we do this again in a few years, she'll be on it for sure. The other was Linda Medley. Castle Waiting is such a unique story, and truly well-told. I find myself kind of regretting not including Linda in my list. Next time, perhaps. I wound up with 3 of my final twelve being female creators. I think I had 6 on my initial list. There were a few I would have included on that initial list but they didn't have work 10 years old to qualify. -M
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 0:01:13 GMT -5
10. Frank Miller...for his work on Daredevil I started reading comics in 1989. Mostly (entirely) superhero comics. And they had a feel to them. A feel echoed across every comic I read. Until I read some older comics, comics from the sixties say. And these had a different feel. I liked many, I appreciated most, I've come to love some. But they all felt dated. Things from the forties felt even more dated and things from the seventies sometimes felt dated. Frank Miller's Daredevil does not feel dated. It captured the pacing, storytelling, cinematography, character, and story that I associated with modern superhero comics. Now having read lots and lots of superhero comics, including most of Marvel, it really seems like a turning point. Pretty much every superhero comic after Miller's Daredevil kind of feels like Miller's Daredevil in some ways. And nothing before it does. I think this comic set the standard to be imitated. Moreso than Watchmen, moreso than even X-Men, I think superhero comics for the next couple decades ultimately looked to Miller's run on Daredevil in terms of how to tell a superhero story. This is coming up on my list too
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Dec 16, 2015 0:03:34 GMT -5
Kirby aside, is there another more operatic weaver of story through the medium of comics than the utterly magnificent Phillipe Druillet? There's little doubt in my mind that most of Kirby's work in the '70s (which I consider to be his best work) was heavily inspired by Druillet. On the other hand, having just read The Six Voyages of Lone Sloan for the first time this week, I really struggled with the writing. I therefore consider Druillet the superior artist, but Kirby the better overall package. I would say quite a few, Brandon Graham currently being the best at this imho. But Alex Nino is no less impressive, so are Andrea and old school Kevin O'Neill...
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Post by foxley on Dec 16, 2015 2:10:37 GMT -5
After the slight naughtiness of yesterday's entry of Jinky Coronado, today I go for outright smut: #10. Larry Welz
Larry Welz, the creator of Cherry Poptart, is probably best described as an x-rated version of Dan DeCarlo. So why is he on my list? Because he's an x-rated version of Dan DeCarlo! There is just something awesome about seeing Archie-style characters swearing, drinking, taking drugs and having sex. I'll try to keep my art choices mostly SFW.
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Post by berkley on Dec 16, 2015 6:47:28 GMT -5
HergéAn obvious choice that will appear on many other lists, I'm sure, but I could not in all conscience leave him off mine since his Tintin books have provided some of my most memorable comics reading over the last two or three years. Yes, I came to Tintin very lately, after having ignored it for years and years for what now seem the most trivial reasons - e.g. adolescent protagonists have never interested me, even when I was an adolescent myself. When I finally did get around to giving it a chance - in large part because of comments and reviews from some regulars here at Classic Comics - I was more than a little surprised at how good it was, not only as an important step in the historical development of comics as a medium (something I'd already accepted), but purely in terms of its own narrative. Hergé is undoubtedly one of the most skilful story-tellers I've ever come across, both as an artist and a writer. I think film-makers would do well to study the structure of his stories, not only how they move from one scene to another but also how each individual scene is a little story in itself. For example, have a look at the first page of L'Ile Noir, which I just started reading: In just one page you have the shift from an innocent, carefree beginning (Tintin & Milou out for a walk) to the introduction of a troubling or unexpected outside element (the malfunctioning plane) which then develops further (the plane's crew turn out to be crooks who don't mind killing anyone who might witness their activities) and finally a dénouement (they shoot Tintin and leave him for dead). An entire story in just 12 panels! Then, to step down to a smaller scale, even the individual panels here contain little worlds in themselves - landscapes with horizons and foregrounds and backgrounds of their own. Is there any wonder the reader is captured, drawn into Tintin's "universe"? And finally, to return to the overall story itself, everything comes together in the most satisfying way, with all loose ends tied up - in contrast to some of the other cartoonists I'll be featuring later on. Granted, this kind of tidiness can be a negative, a cynical exploitation of popular demand - as for example in many recent Hollywood blockbsters - but with Tintin, where it feels as right as in a good Agatha Christie book.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 16, 2015 6:51:30 GMT -5
After the slight naughtiness of yesterday's entry of Jinky Coronado, today I go for outright smut: #10. Larry Welz
Larry Welz, the creator of Cherry Poptart, is probably best described as an x-rated version of Dan DeCarlo. So why is he on my list? Because he's an x-rated version of Dan DeCarlo! There is just something awesome about seeing Archie-style characters swearing, drinking, taking drugs and having sex. I'll try to keep my art choices mostly SFW. Welz was a last minute cut on my list. Glad to see he's up on the radar.....
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Post by Pharozonk on Dec 16, 2015 20:28:39 GMT -5
#10. Bill Amend Bill Amend's Foxtrot pretty much defined my life in comic strip form growing up as a kid. In fact, I'd say the character of Jason Fox pretty much could represent many of us on this board. Amend's sense of offbeat slice of life humor appeals to all the nerds out there growing up and your family thinking you're a total loon.
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Post by benday-dot on Dec 16, 2015 21:08:09 GMT -5
There's little doubt in my mind that most of Kirby's work in the '70s (which I consider to be his best work) was heavily inspired by Druillet. On the other hand, having just read The Six Voyages of Lone Sloan for the first time this week, I really struggled with the writing. I therefore consider Druillet the superior artist, but Kirby the better overall package. I would say quite a few, Brandon Graham currently being the best at this imho. But Alex Nino is no less impressive, so are Andrea and old school Kevin O'Neill... Good call on Brandon Graham. Alex Nino I take a bit of issue with, since I think he was a weaker storyteller than Druillet and far inferior to Kirby. I like Nino to a point and have lots of his work, but he is lacking a bit in the narrative meat IMO. Keven O'Neil is magnificent, but I confess I only know him as an artist rather than a writer.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 16, 2015 22:27:09 GMT -5
I would say quite a few, Brandon Graham currently being the best at this imho. But Alex Nino is no less impressive, so are Andrea and old school Kevin O'Neill... Good call on Brandon Graham. Alex Nino I take a bit of issue with, since I think he was a weaker storyteller than Druillet and far inferior to Kirby. I like Nino to a point and have lots of his work, but he is lacking a bit in the narrative meat IMO. Keven O'Neil is magnificent, but I confess I only know him as an artist rather than a writer. I'd also put James Stokoe in there as well...
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