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Post by rich on Oct 8, 2024 14:28:29 GMT -5
Last Greg Land for tonight, featuring what looks like a singing Whitney Houston as a crying Gwen: (better than a generic porn screen grab? Either way, that face does not remotely blend in with the rest of the drawing. Nice deflated Spidey, though.)   |
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Post by rich on Oct 8, 2024 14:38:02 GMT -5
Anyway, I promised Salvador Larocca...   This drawing comic books lark doesn't look as hard as it used to be... Copy and paste faces. Copy and paste star ships. Draw back of head in all black. He probably found a nice image to swipe for the stars, even. Here's some non Star Wars swiping:  |
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Post by impulse on Oct 8, 2024 15:31:47 GMT -5
21st century Claremont could be a whole week of posts on its own. What a collection of mixed feelings I have on that.
But I won't say it today.
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Post by rich on Oct 8, 2024 15:54:06 GMT -5
21st century Claremont could be a whole week of posts on its own. What a collection of mixed feelings I have on that. But I won't say it today. I read very little of his after 1991. I loved his X-Men but strongly disliked a few bits and pieces after that, like the awful Aliens vs Predator 😐 FF wasn't nearly so bad, but was overly wordy and stale, when I tried that for a few months. I really wanted to enjoy his comics again, but it just didn't click. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 8, 2024 17:43:00 GMT -5
Anyway, I promised Salvador Larocca... This drawing comic books lark doesn't look as hard as it used to be... Copy and paste faces. Copy and paste star ships. Draw back of head in all black. He probably found a nice image to swipe for the stars, even. That first page doesn't even look like a swipe... just like a screen capture with a Poster Edges filter. I wonder if I would have liked that as a kid. On the one hand, I was pretty irritated that the characters in Marvel's Star Wars didn't look like themselves at all... but on the other hand, these photos are just so... stiff. Stiffer than Sir William Surname! |
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Post by rich on Oct 8, 2024 18:08:20 GMT -5
Anyway, I promised Salvador Larocca... This drawing comic books lark doesn't look as hard as it used to be... Copy and paste faces. Copy and paste star ships. Draw back of head in all black. He probably found a nice image to swipe for the stars, even. That first page doesn't even look like a swipe... just like a screen capture with a Poster Edges filter. I wonder if I would have liked that as a kid. On the one hand, I was pretty irritated that the characters in Marvel's Star Wars didn't look like themselves at all... but on the other hand, these photos are just so... stiff. Stiffer than Sir William Surname! Not much chance of pretending he drew those faces himself, is there! 😬 Might as well let AI draw the comic at that rate... |
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Post by kirby101 on Oct 8, 2024 19:19:55 GMT -5
Not comics, they're Fumetti.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Oct 8, 2024 19:31:35 GMT -5
wow, that is really terrible. I hope no one is buying that stuff!
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Oct 9, 2024 5:53:28 GMT -5
Anyway, I promised Salvador Larocca... This drawing comic books lark doesn't look as hard as it used to be... Copy and paste faces. Copy and paste star ships. Draw back of head in all black. He probably found a nice image to swipe for the stars, even. Here's some non Star Wars swiping: For the Kenobi page, much as I dislike how the images look, I think that's a case where it makes sense to do that. It's an adaptation of a live action tv show where the people buying it will likely be the few fans of the show. Going for a look that tries to be very close to how the actors looked in the show isn't egregious beyond just not looking good in that style. Plus a show as terrible as Kenobi doesn't deserve to be represented by good art in the comic. |
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Post by rich on Oct 9, 2024 6:52:08 GMT -5
I enjoyed your last comment. Haha! 😁
There comes a point when they might as well just do a photo comic using still frames from the show, like John Byrne did with Star Trek. What's the point of just taking still frames only to apply "comic filter"?
I do however agree it's a thankless task trying to make a movie or TV adaptation and draw from hand, as some people will always whinge about the likenesses.
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Post by impulse on Oct 9, 2024 8:20:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I could generally give a pass to blatant tracing on something like a direct adaptation/comic book novelization of an exact work, but woo, that is rough. He could have at least actually traced it.
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Post by rich on Oct 9, 2024 11:14:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I could generally give a pass to blatant tracing on something like a direct adaptation/comic book novelization of an exact work, but woo, that is rough. He could have at least actually traced it. I can only imagine this will get more common (and more subtle) in coming years. It makes you wish Marvel and DC would still demand pen and pencil touch paper. |
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Post by rich on Oct 9, 2024 11:16:00 GMT -5
The backgrounds on that first Star Wars page... every one is just random blurred stuff unless it's stock clouds.
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Post by rich on Oct 9, 2024 11:33:48 GMT -5
That brings me on to another "there I said it": Digital art is of substantially lower value than 'real' art.
Now with AI even more so. That's made the entire business of digital art even less trustworthy and meaningful.
Apologies to any digital artists reading this.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Oct 9, 2024 11:34:17 GMT -5
With both Marvel and DC corporations now, demands could come from "the top" rather than say a single editor that works in house with the writers and artists. I feel compelled to defend Larroca early work that was clearly done with a pencil. Sure most of the 90's and into the 00's work is done with digital coloring. But it's not what was posted above. They could have come to him and told him "this is what you are going to do and this is how we want you to do it so we get the results we want". And you could make the argument he could refuse. Sure we all can refuse to do a task at work, but we all know what the consequences might be. I think we tend to forget for some artists and writers it is a job to them,, just like none of us would go to our job for free. It might not be your cup of tea. But it is classically done.    |
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