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Post by rich on Oct 1, 2024 14:10:46 GMT -5
A) I think Marvel Masterworks are an ideal length. Omnibus length is terrible.
B) Marvel Masterworks have rubbish covers.
There, I said it.
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Post by supercat on Oct 1, 2024 17:15:51 GMT -5
A) I think Marvel Masterworks are an ideal length. Omnibus length is terrible. B) Marvel Masterworks have rubbish covers. There, I said it. I've gotten plenty of the silver cover Masterworks just because I wanted the contents, but I much prefer the Comicraft editions like the example below versus the regular version in the second picture. They didn't do too many of them in that version though. I do like the length as well, comfy to read.   |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2024 17:45:42 GMT -5
I'm not ill-speaking Omnibus editions for the foreseeable future, when I'm getting $125 cover price books for $29 (which include shipping).
I just have to sit cross-legged on my bed to read them.
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Post by Batflunkie on Oct 1, 2024 19:05:37 GMT -5
A) I think Marvel Masterworks are an ideal length. Omnibus length is terrible. B) Marvel Masterworks have rubbish covers. There, I said it. I liked the Essentials like because they were basically B&W phone books with comics crammed inside. I like the Epic Collections too, but their release schedule is all over the place and they're never in order |
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Post by kirby101 on Oct 1, 2024 19:07:39 GMT -5
I HATE the coloring on all the reprints.
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Post by Batflunkie on Oct 1, 2024 19:20:16 GMT -5
I HATE the coloring on all the reprints. They've gotten better about it, but it still is fairly bright in some instances. Here's a comparison between a physical copy of Cap #267 and it's reprint in the epic collection "Of Monsters And Men"  The biggest issue I think is how the Statue of Liberty has less detail in the Epic Collection reprint |
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Post by kirby101 on Oct 1, 2024 19:24:01 GMT -5
That's a cover, how about interior pages?
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Post by Batflunkie on Oct 1, 2024 19:32:52 GMT -5
That's a cover, how about interior pages? Fair, here's two pages worth Original   Reprint  |
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Post by kirby101 on Oct 1, 2024 19:37:30 GMT -5
Yeah, horrific. Blues and yellows at 100% to bright and garrish. No subtlety.
They have toned downed some of the colors.
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Post by rich on Oct 2, 2024 1:14:33 GMT -5
Here's a link about how the reprints are ruined by inept colouring. It's a video worth a watch.
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 2, 2024 5:53:16 GMT -5
For all your recolouring needs at Marvel:  |
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Post by supercat on Oct 2, 2024 7:27:46 GMT -5
The recoloring has been something since well before the Masterworks as well, I posted this comparison earlier this year when I pickup up the Micronauts Omnibus volume 1. Here is side-by-side the splash page of an original #1 from 1979 (left) next to the Special Edition from 1983 (right):  Now here is that same splash page from the omnibus this year:  |
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Post by rich on Oct 2, 2024 7:58:50 GMT -5
When original colouring is a bit wonky I can see why they had another bash in 1983. The 1983 attempt has some problems, like the yellow pavement/yellow wall/yellow metal thing/yellow text box conglomeration, but at least the horses became horse coloured.
My primary resentment of reprint colouring has more to do with taking adequate colouring and making it flat and garish and wrong. Of course over rendering/modelling/applying gradients is also horrible for old material.
One example- the Steranko reprints in the 2000s not only had crap modern colouring but the line art was scanned at a very low resolution, leaving visible pixels all over the pages! Every individual involved in those reprints deserves to be banned from ever being employed in the comics industry again.
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Post by rich on Oct 2, 2024 8:01:08 GMT -5
It's also possible that the above pages also suffered in separation and printing, and the original colorist and editor never intended for that outcome. When they happens it's definitely worth improving things... but in a manner consistent with the era and the art!
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Post by supercat on Oct 2, 2024 8:09:35 GMT -5
When original colouring is a bit wonky I can see why they had another bash in 1983. The 1983 attempt has some problems, like the yellow pavement/yellow wall/yellow metal thing/yellow text box conglomeration, but at least the horses became horse coloured. My primary resentment of reprint colouring has more to do with taking adequate colouring and making it flat and garish and wrong. Of course over rendering/modelling/applying gradients is also horrible for old material. One example- the Steranko reprints in the 2000s not only had crap modern colouring but the line art was scanned at a very low resolution, leaving visible pixels all over the pages! Every individual involved in those reprints deserves to be banned from ever being employed in the comics industry again. I definitely agree with that, the worst offenses are taking original coloring and downgrading it sometimes badly in the process. But I also factor in originality. One of the reasons I like to pick up reprints is to experience comics as they were originally published. If I'm reading Micronauts #1, just give me as close to what was going on in 1979 when it came out. It was clearly fine enough then for the series to do well, and having read the original issues myself back then I never thought "geez, love the series, but someone needs to fix this coloring". Plus, who's to say what's a "normal" horse color in the Microverse haha! |
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