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Post by Duragizer on Mar 9, 2021 21:39:21 GMT -5
So I've read up to Fantastic Four #60.
The Johnny/Crystal romance?
It sucks and it blows.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 22:11:12 GMT -5
You're feeling old? I still remember flipping through the first issue, in a comic shop, in college! i bought the first issue in college also. I’m pretty sure we’re essentially the same age. But I had to walk to the comic shop in a snowstorm uphill both ways to get it back in the day. Whippersnappers! I didn't get the first issue, I started with #8 when I was home from university on break and visiting my secondary comic shop (it was near where my dad worked not near where we lived) and the owner recommended it to me with a money back guarantee if I didn't like the book. I picked up that issue and two others, read them, and went back the next day and picked up all the previous issues and bought every one after that until the series ended. But yes, there is that feeling that the late 80s/90s feel like they should be yesterday, but are now decades in the rear-view mirror. -M
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Post by tartanphantom on Mar 9, 2021 22:19:06 GMT -5
The older you get, the worse the compressed time-memory instant-recall phenomenon becomes. Pretty soon, everything seems like it was "only yesterday."
Come to think of it, I'm beginning to sound more and more like Grandpa Simpson every day.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 22:23:28 GMT -5
Man, 'only yesterday' I was looking at Season 1 Ep 1 of The Walking Dead and damn....10 years have flown by....
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 10, 2021 12:56:35 GMT -5
i bought the first issue in college also. I’m pretty sure we’re essentially the same age. But I had to walk to the comic shop in a snowstorm uphill both ways to get it back in the day. Whippersnappers! I didn't get the first issue, I started with #8 when I was home from university on break and visiting my secondary comic shop (it was near where my dad worked not near where we lived) and the owner recommended it to me with a money back guarantee if I didn't like the book. I picked up that issue and two others, read them, and went back the next day and picked up all the previous issues and bought every one after that until the series ended. But yes, there is that feeling that the late 80s/90s feel like they should be yesterday, but are now decades in the rear-view mirror. -M
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2021 22:55:57 GMT -5
How would you classify this flaw? The bright red background on the top part of the cover has turned patchy yellow. What exactly causes that? Will it continue if bagged, boarded and put away? I haven't seen it in Marvel or DC books from the period. I'd still keep it, there I said it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 0:30:23 GMT -5
How would you classify this flaw? The bright red background on the top part of the cover has turned patchy yellow. What exactly causes that? Will it continue if bagged, boarded and put away? I haven't seen it in Marvel or DC books from the period. I'd still keep it, there I said it.
Looks like fading from exposure to direct sunlight, but I am not sure, and I am puzzled why just part of it would fade, unless the book was in a pile, but that corner was sticking out and exposed to sunlight. However, I am by no means an expert, and my educated guess could be way off. It could also be a spill stain of some sort. Is there discoloration on the inside of the cover, or just on the front? -M
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 11, 2021 1:06:49 GMT -5
How would you classify this flaw? The bright red background on the top part of the cover has turned patchy yellow. What exactly causes that? Will it continue if bagged, boarded and put away? I haven't seen it in Marvel or DC books from the period. I'd still keep it, there I said it.
Looks like fading form exposure to direct sunlight, but I am not sure, and I am puzzled why just part of it would fade, unless the book was in a pile, but that corner was sticking out and exposed to sunlight. However, I am by no means an expert, and my educated guess could be way off. It could also be a spill stain of some sort. Is there discoloration o the inside of the cover, or just on the front? -M That's what I was going to suggest; that or exposure to oils from handling. Direct sunlight will bleach color out. Comic book printing and coloring tended to be pretty cheap; so, it doesn't take much. With 4-color printing, you have a mix of Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black; my guess would be that the fading is causing more of the yellow plate to come through; but, a printer or archivist could probably give a clue with more certainty.
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Post by berkley on Mar 11, 2021 2:02:07 GMT -5
So I've read up to Fantastic Four #60. The Johnny/Crystal romance? It sucks and it blows. What about it specifically didn't you like? In one way I don't mind it since it provided an excuse to bring Crystal into the FF and make her a more prominent character in the series - which I enjoyed because for whatever reason she has been my favourite FF character since I was a small kid. OTOH, I can see where you might be coming from in that Johnny was a bit of an idiot much of the time.
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Post by Duragizer on Mar 11, 2021 3:05:15 GMT -5
So I've read up to Fantastic Four #60. The Johnny/Crystal romance? It sucks and it blows. What about it specifically didn't you like? In one way I don't mind it since it provided an excuse to bring Crystal into the FF and make her a more prominent character in the series - which I enjoyed because for whatever reason she has been my favourite FF character since I was a small kid. OTOH, I can see where you might be coming from in that Johnny was a bit of an idiot much of the time. They met and got to know one other all in the space of six minutes before getting seperated, yet spend the next several issues obsessing over one another as if they had an actual relationship. It only hardens my conviction that Lee couldn't write believable romances to save his life.
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Post by kirby101 on Mar 11, 2021 8:25:34 GMT -5
Stan Lee did not write Romances, he wrote forlorned lovers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 14:00:32 GMT -5
Looks like fading from exposure to direct sunlight, but I am not sure, and I am puzzled why just part of it would fade, unless the book was in a pile, but that corner was sticking out and exposed to sunlight. However, I am by no means an expert, and my educated guess could be way off. It could also be a spill stain of some sort. Is there discoloration on the inside of the cover, or just on the front? From what I've seen, just the front...it wasn't a stain or spill as far as I can tell. Other than that noticeable bleached look, it's still a nice copy...so I'm debating whether I should nip it.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 11, 2021 16:27:38 GMT -5
I'd say sun too, but for that circle in the middle.. no way that little patch got sun and not the rest of the top. Maybe some of the ink was just tougher than others? Could it be actual bleach? I mean, clearly not concentrated in any way, since that would destroy it... OTOH, with the roll on the spine, maybe it was rolled up in the sun somewhere and that little circle WAS showing.
Definitely a weird pattern!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 11, 2021 16:33:20 GMT -5
What about it specifically didn't you like? In one way I don't mind it since it provided an excuse to bring Crystal into the FF and make her a more prominent character in the series - which I enjoyed because for whatever reason she has been my favourite FF character since I was a small kid. OTOH, I can see where you might be coming from in that Johnny was a bit of an idiot much of the time. They met and got to know one other all in the space of six minutes before getting seperated, yet spend the next several issues obsessing over one another as if they had an actual relationship. It only hardens my conviction that Lee couldn't write believable romances to save his life. This isn't just Lee. This kind of thing was endemic to writing of all kind throughout at least the first 2/3 of the 20th Century. And was particularly prevalent in genre fiction. Burroughs built a career around the "Love at first sight" trope, as well as the "She hates me so I must have her" trope. Or maybe it should be tripe.
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Post by berkley on Mar 11, 2021 17:07:38 GMT -5
They met and got to know one other all in the space of six minutes before getting seperated, yet spend the next several issues obsessing over one another as if they had an actual relationship. It only hardens my conviction that Lee couldn't write believable romances to save his life. This isn't just Lee. This kind of thing was endemic to writing of all kind throughout at least the first 2/3 of the 20th Century. And was particularly prevalent in genre fiction. Burroughs built a career around the "Love at first sight" trope, as well as the "She hates me so I must have her" trope. Or maybe it should be tripe.
Yes, it was so widespread that I just more or less accept it as part of the package when reading anything from that era, whether in ERB's many novels or elsewhere. Read a PG Wodehouse comic novel and you'll see the same thing. Or, speaking of comedy, even watching, say, a Marx Brothers or Abbot & Costello movie, today we might there for the comedy but there was always a romantic boy-meets-girl subplot to go along with it. So it's never really bothered me, being exposed to this convention from a young age, I suppose.
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