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Post by kirby101 on Aug 9, 2020 21:40:32 GMT -5
We know why those have lost value. Do you think Ruth's 60th or Marris' 61st aren't worth more than ever?
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 9, 2020 21:50:40 GMT -5
Todd Mcfarlane paid Millions of dollars for Mark Mcguires 70 HR ball and Sammy Sosa’s 66 HR ball. How much do you think there’re worth now? Any thoughts, shaxper ? They'd be worth more with autographed vials of Winstrol or decaduro ballin.
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Post by Duragizer on Aug 9, 2020 21:54:28 GMT -5
I don't really care for anything Miller & Moore added to the Batman mythos.
There, I said it.
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Post by tarkintino on Aug 9, 2020 22:09:47 GMT -5
I preferred the original X-Men to the 1975-forward incarnations, which I found to be the most overrated comics in history.
There, I said it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 22:19:23 GMT -5
I preferred the original X-Men to the 1975-forward incarnations, which I found to be the most overrated comics in history. There, I said it.
I liked X-Men when it was easier to follow. One book per month.
Then came the 90s and X was everywhere.
There, I X'd it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 23:40:56 GMT -5
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 10, 2020 4:41:39 GMT -5
I preferred the original X-Men to the 1975-forward incarnations, which I found to be the most overrated comics in history. There, I said it.
I liked X-Men when it was easier to follow. One book per month.
Then came the 90s and X was everywhere.
There, I X'd it.
They sort of did that to my beloved Avengers in the 2000's. Avengers World ? They made them into the LSH.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 7:59:45 GMT -5
Sometimes I feel less is more. THE INCREDIBLE HULK was great to read because he had one book. So easy to follow!
But I gave up with certain spider-books in the 90s. Oh, great, THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN has ended on a cliffhanger, to be continued in WEB OF SPIDER-MAN, the very title my corner shop doesn’t stock (I wasn’t near to an LCS as a kid).
I was okay with multiple books if they had a different flavour, e.g. DETECTIVE COMICS did seem to involve more detecting. But, really, less is more. Would you want Christmas every day? Or every month? Hell, as a wrestling fan, I pine for the days when there were fewer PPVs, not monthly events.
I know it’s always been like that. Go back to before I was born and you’d have had SUPERMAN, ACTION COMICS, WORLD’S FINEST COMICS, DC COMICS PRESENTS, etc. So I know it’s nothing new. But when something becomes routine, it becomes less special. A Superman book on the shelves every week back in the 90s didn’t appeal to me. Anticipation is a great thing.
And you just know DC and Marvel would have done it with every character had the demand been there. If there’d been a demand for four Doctor Strange books on the shelve, then there’d have been four Dr. Strange books. When I’m editor-in-chief of DC/Marvel (after they merge), I am putting a cap on such things. No more than two books per character. Exception will be Juggernaut, though, one of my favourite villains. Four for him: Juggernaut, Juggernaut: Team-Up, Untold Juggernaut Tales, and Juggernaut Adventures.
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Post by Batflunkie on Aug 10, 2020 10:34:25 GMT -5
I preferred the original X-Men to the 1975-forward incarnations, which I found to be the most overrated comics in history. There, I said it. The only X-Book that I ever liked was Excalibur, but it's more of a UK Avengers story to be fair
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Post by impulse on Aug 10, 2020 10:53:36 GMT -5
I liked X-Men when it was easier to follow. One book per month. Then came the 90s and X was everywhere. I pretty much agree with the exception that I was good when they had a handful of titles that had a different focus. Different cast, different events, rare intersection. You could follow along or not as you chose. Once they started having a glut of redundant books it diluted the value in a big way.
A home team, an away team, maybe the next generation book? With the odd solo ongoing or mini? Yeah, okay. Uncanny Adjectiveless Astonishingly XTREME Amazing Super Shiny New Xactly Xcellent Xciting XMEN plus a dozen minis at the same time covering the same period with the same characters seemingly where the author had no idea what the other writers were doing at the same time?
No thanks.
The only X-Book that I ever liked was Excalibur, but it's more of a UK Avengers story to be fair Ecalibur always seemed like half an X book at most. Like it married into the family.
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 10, 2020 19:12:54 GMT -5
I preferred the original X-Men to the 1975-forward incarnations, which I found to be the most overrated comics in history. There, I said it. Not me. The originals bored the bejeezus out of me (they still do). I loved the new team, and continued to do so up through Uncanny #153 (Kitty's Fairy Tale). After that, it got too complicated and too angsty for me. But for a couple of years there, X-Men was as good as super-hero comics get.
Cei-U! I summon the mutant mania!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 19:17:41 GMT -5
I quite liked the concept of X-Factor. (Gosh, how I hate the fact that that term is more associated with Simon Cowell’s lame show than the super-team). I thought it was intriguing to bring the original X-Men back, under the pretence of being “mutant hunters”. I really liked that issue - damn, which one was it? - where some official assumed Spidey was a mutant, so hired X-Factor to bring him in.
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Post by kirby101 on Aug 10, 2020 19:22:55 GMT -5
The original issues of X-Men were pretty good for 20 issues or so because...Kirby. then it was the weakest book Marvel did. It got good again in the 50s with Steranko and Adam's. It actually ended with some great stories. But the Bronze age X-Men was a great book, it almost defines the era.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 19:27:16 GMT -5
Adding to the X-Men discussion, I really would like to see the original X-Men take on the Sinister Six, it need not be a canonical tale.
I wish we’d see more “cross-pollination” at times. I know it has been done. And it should never be overdone as it would lose its lustre, but I loved it back in the day, e.g. Joker showing up in a Superman book, Electro showing up to battle Captain America, the FF tackling Doctor Octopus, etc.
The last X-Men books I read were UK reprints. Over here, we have a title called ESSENTIAL X-MEN, published by Panini Comics, reprinting 2 US issues every month. I think our reprints are at least 6-12 months behind the United States. Anyway, they’re all long stories which focus on mutantkind. Which isn’t a problem as such (the X-Men would, of course, be involved in mutant problems).
But...
I so would like to see the X-Men face some non-mutant threats at times. I loved the issue where they took on Doctor Doom. The X-Men vs. The Sinister Six would be fun in theory. Professor X vs. Doctor Octopus! Angel vs. Vulture! Iceman vs. Electro! Cyclops vs. Mysterio! Beast vs. Kraven! Marvel Girl vs. Sandman! I’d love to see that.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 11, 2020 5:04:05 GMT -5
Short comic book runs seem to get more love than longer ones. The Steranko Captain America and Stern/Byrne Cap run being some quick examples. In the Steranko run, I feel like it's way too short to be loved the way it is.
There I said it.
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