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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 11:40:29 GMT -5
I think he got better as time went on...I like his work that he did in the 2000's and on. Especially his stuff on Dark Avengers,Thunderbolts and Spiderman. His Hulk art in the 90's I didn't care for and his Thor work though...no. I agree he did get better. I imagine he was doing what was popular at that time, and what the consumer was eating up. Some of his covers of Thor (499 comes to mind) were pretty well done. But reading the book itself, panel after panel, you could get turned off to his work. If you were on the fence, buying the cover, the interior might not sway you to continue. And I will totally agree with you on Hulk. I concur. I can always overlook a cover but when panel after panel and page after page is just full of bad art like you said it may sway me to continue. Especially if the same artist continues for numerous issues. Now for the completist in me for certain titles...well that's another story.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Nov 9, 2015 12:29:05 GMT -5
I first saw Deodato's art on his Wonder Woman run and ingested my own barf. Then, because I'ms uch a Peter Milligan believer, I bought the first issue of Elektra despites Deaodato's involvment. That was a mistake. I still keep htat issue as a reminder though. Then, years later, Bruce Jones started a run on Hulk that I actually find to my liking, but along the way, they had Deodato come aboard and I feared that very much. Yet, htat is when his art started to look accepable IMHO. Googling him, I now see that issue after issue, it slowly went downhill back to his usual problems, but the first few isues had solid drawing of humans and background.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 13:17:39 GMT -5
I think he got better as time went on...I like his work that he did in the 2000's and on. Especially his stuff on Dark Avengers,Thunderbolts and Spiderman. His Hulk art in the 90's I didn't care for and his Thor work though...no. I agree he did get better. I imagine he was doing what was popular at that time, and what the consumer was eating up. Some of his covers of Thor (499 comes to mind) were pretty well done. But reading the book itself, panel after panel, you could get turned off to his work. If you were on the fence, buying the cover, the interior might not sway you to continue. And I will totally agree with you on Hulk. When Deodato was credited in the 90s you could never be sure if it was him doing th art or someone in his studio, which attributed to the wildly varying quality of art produced by Deodato in the 90s. Later the Studio started getting credited when it was not Mike himself, but there was a year or so where the Deodato name was on it no matter who actually produced the work. Now Deodato's work is by Deodato himself and he has improved after 20+ years in the business as well, but not all that bad early stuff under his name was actually done by him. -M
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 13:36:18 GMT -5
It looks like he's trying to take off like Superman. And why does he have feet? Liefeld must have drawn them by mistake. He hates to draw feet.
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 9, 2015 13:54:01 GMT -5
It looks like he's trying to take off like Superman. And why does he have feet? Liefeld must have drawn them by mistake. He hates to draw feet. Oh, those are feet!
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 9, 2015 16:44:13 GMT -5
No franchise was safe from 90s art in the 90s.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 9, 2015 16:54:17 GMT -5
I agree he did get better. I imagine he was doing what was popular at that time, and what the consumer was eating up. Some of his covers of Thor (499 comes to mind) were pretty well done. But reading the book itself, panel after panel, you could get turned off to his work. If you were on the fence, buying the cover, the interior might not sway you to continue. And I will totally agree with you on Hulk. I concur. I can always overlook a cover but when panel after panel and page after page is just full of bad art like you said it may sway me to continue. Especially if the same artist continues for numerous issues. Now for the completist in me for certain titles...well that's another story. I'll give Deodato one thing, he (or as MRP said someone in his studio) did at least draw both men and women in an equally proportioned manner. The men were ripped to the ridiculous as women were voluptuous. :-)
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 9, 2015 17:20:37 GMT -5
I concur. I can always overlook a cover but when panel after panel and page after page is just full of bad art like you said it may sway me to continue. Especially if the same artist continues for numerous issues. Now for the completist in me for certain titles...well that's another story. I'll give Deodato one thing, he (or as MRP said someone in his studio) did at least draw both men and women in an equally proportioned manner. The men were ripped to the ridiculous as women were voluptuous. :-) That's just the usual fanservice pattern: The men are male power fantasies, the women are male shower fantasies.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 22:08:07 GMT -5
Love how his legs are 3 times longer than his torso.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 9, 2015 22:36:38 GMT -5
I'll give Deodato one thing, he (or as MRP said someone in his studio) did at least draw both men and women in an equally proportioned manner. The men were ripped to the ridiculous as women were voluptuous. :-) That's just the usual fanservice pattern: The men are male power fantasies, the women are male shower fantasies. You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 23:22:11 GMT -5
Becomes something different when the original artwork is applied to the blank cover...
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 10, 2015 5:14:22 GMT -5
That looks like Zatanna played by Alyssa Milano.
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Post by berkley on Nov 10, 2015 19:00:59 GMT -5
I think Deodato is a good artist who does a lot of things very well. His 90s work, from what I've seen online, I dismiss as an aberration - it seems pretty clear he was trying to deliver what the editors and the fans were demanding at the time, because it looks nothing like his 2000s stuff.
I do think his female characters tend to look a little too much alike - his Valkyrie looks as lithe and slender as his Black Widow, but what's appropriate for a gymnastic martial artist really isn't for a Norse battle-goddess.
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 10, 2015 20:34:02 GMT -5
Becomes something different when the original artwork is applied to the blank cover... Saw this on e-bay. What's this about? Somebody scamming based on the "Zero Hour for Zatanna" arc from the 60s?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 21:06:01 GMT -5
I'm looking at the cover art, not the price being asked for it. Blank 'sketch' covers allow artists to create individual pieces of cover art...I thought that one was particularly nice.
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