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Post by Ricky Jackson on Jul 21, 2024 21:59:56 GMT -5
There is an amazing Taschen EC Comics history book I'd love to own that is as large as a suitcase
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Post by berkley on Jul 21, 2024 23:12:04 GMT -5
I recently bought a music stand - not for music, but to see if it might function as a cheap lectern for big books. I haven't used it much yet but I think it might be all right for some things, as long a they aren't really huge and heavy. I thnk Cei-U once mentioned using something made for cookbooks? I haven't looked at those so far.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 22, 2024 1:35:40 GMT -5
I recently bought a music stand - not for music, but to see if it might function as a cheap lectern for big books. I haven't used it much yet but I think it might be all right for some things, as long a they aren't really huge and heavy. I thnk Cei-U once mentioned using something made for cookbooks? I haven't looked at those so far. There are several types of those; we used to carry a couple at Barnes & Noble, years back. The wooden ones are a bit more solid and some come with components to hold the book open to a specific page. I got rid of it a while back; but, I used to have a display unit that we originally received to display the Calvin & Hobbes 3-volume collection (hardcover, with slipcase). It came with one volume, to display (bracketed to the stand, on a lectern-like top piece, then room below to hold 3 of the book sets. I used to keep my comic strip collections in it. It was kind of bulky, though and after Barb moved in, I had to get rid of some stuff to give us more room. It went. It was perfect for large sized hardcover volumes, though. |
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Post by kirby101 on Jul 22, 2024 8:53:56 GMT -5
Just go old school and put the book on the floor.  |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 22, 2024 9:15:56 GMT -5
Just go old school and put the book on the floor. That would mean I'd have to somehow figure up how to get my ass up off the floor. |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 22, 2024 9:35:53 GMT -5
That would mean I'd have to somehow figure up how to get my ass up off the floor.
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Post by tartanphantom on Jul 22, 2024 10:07:34 GMT -5
That would mean I'd have to somehow figure up how to get my ass up off the floor.
You win the internet for the day. God bless George Clinton.
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Post by MRPs_Missives on Jul 22, 2024 11:47:46 GMT -5
That would mean I'd have to somehow figure up how to get my ass up off the floor. If only... at this point I think Mrs. MRP would have to rent a crane to get me up off the floor. -M |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 22, 2024 21:08:44 GMT -5
Just go old school and put the book on the floor. That would mean I'd have to somehow figure up how to get my ass up off the floor. Yeah, at 57, going with gravity works fairly easy; going in the opposite direction IS rocket science! |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 23, 2024 5:40:56 GMT -5
Just go old school and put the book on the floor. A picture of pure happiness. I wish to God I could still do that. It might help with the herniated discs! |
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Post by Confessor on Jul 23, 2024 6:29:43 GMT -5
Yes I have Spider-Man V 1. I really loved it. The scans from printed comics makes it a different experience than the horribly colored masterwork reprints. I think they did a faithful reproduction with the colors. It also has the full original art from AF 15, Library of Congress. Now V2 is another story. They seemed to have gone with the more saturated colors of modern reprints. Not as bad but not as faithful as V1. We had a long discussion on Facebook about this including Jose Villbura. A lot of disappointment in that. I might still get V2 if I can at a discount. They are large and heavy. I read mine on a table or on the floor. Thanks for the info. It's a little concerning to hear your comments about volume 2 because, if I do buy volume 1, I will definitely want volume 2 as well (some of my favourite Lee/Ditko Spider-Man stories are in the second volume). However, I've watched a couple of unboxing/review videos of the Spider-Man volume 2 book and, from what I can see, the interior pages look very much like they do in volume 1 to my eyes -- certainly they appear to be scans of the original comics, like volume 1, and don't remotely look to have the over-saturated Masterworks/Omnibus colouring. Check out this unboxing video (skip to 4:14 or so to start seeing the interior pages)... I'd also be very interested in a link to that Facebook discussion about volume 2 you mentioned, if you can locate it easily and if its public. Just go old school and put the book on the floor. This is exactly how I tend to read my Omnibuses and Artist Editions. Luckily, even though I'm 50, I'm still pretty supple and can comfortably lay on the floor like that. Chances are that's exactly how I would read these oversized Spider-Man collections if I take the plunge and buy them. |
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Post by kirby101 on Jul 23, 2024 7:00:35 GMT -5
If you look at that video, you can see the yellows and magentas are over saturated. It is done from photos (not scans) of the original comics, but there is always a lot of work done on the files before printing. It's not as terrible as the Silver Surfer XXL, where they really screwed up to coloring. But it is a let down after volume one. That said, it could easily not make a big enough difference to you to make the enjoyment any less. And as I said, I loved V 1. Links to the discussion was on Jose Villarrubia's page.
Here is an example of how they changed the color. You might think the colors are fine. But if you are expecting the actual comic as originally published at a large size. Which is what they are promoting. You are not getting that. What they give you is another recolored reprint format.
For me, reading what feels like the original comic made it special. V 1 does that, V 2, not so much.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 23, 2024 7:41:53 GMT -5
You might think the colors are fine. But if you are expecting the actual comic as originally published at a large size. Which is what they are promoting. You are not getting that. What they give you is another recolored reprint format. Really interesting side-by-side comparisons there, kirby101. Thanks for that. Oh, and for the Facebook link too. Personally, I don't think the slight differences in colour would be enough to put me off -- I used to work as a printer and you may well have gotten that small amount of colour variation across a long printing run anyway, especially on cheaper jobs like comics would've been back in the '60s. The pages of those Taschen collections are still a hell of a lot closer to the original comics than the Masterworks, Marvel Tales, or Omnibus reprints. Also, the thing is, reproductions of the "actual comic as originally published" isn't actually what Taschen are claiming to offer. According to their website, once the high resolution photographs of the comic pages have been taken, they use computer retouching techniques to fix problems with the era's imperfect printing, including improved and balanced ink densities and colour matching, proper registration of the four-color printing, and correction of thick/thin lines resulting from the flexible plates. So, Taschen's mission with these collections was not to give collectors the original comics, warts and all; it was to "create an ideal representation of these books as they were produced at the time of publication." That may sound a bit pedantic, but it is an important distinction, I feel. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2024 8:23:03 GMT -5
If you look at that video, you can see the yellows and magentas are over saturated. It is done from photos (not scans) of the original comics, but there is always a lot of work done on the files before printing. It's not as terrible as the Silver Surfer XXL, where they really screwed up to coloring. But it is a let down after volume one. That said, it could easily not make a big enough difference to you to make the enjoyment any less. And as I said, I loved V 1. Links to the discussion was on Jose Villarrubia's page.
Here is an example of how they changed the color. You might think the colors are fine. But if you are expecting the actual comic as originally published at a large size. Which is what they are promoting. You are not getting that. What they give you is another recolored reprint format.
For me, reading what feels like the original comic made it special. V 1 does that, V 2, not so much.
I bought volume 1 immediately when it was released, it is hands down the coolest non-vintage Spider-Man book I've ever purchased. The detail to the accurate coloring combined with attention to very authentic feeling/looking paper choices is what puts it over the top. I would love a non-oversized version of this as well to be honest, but it's quite "amazing" in the larger format as well. That said, while I much prefer original coloring where possible, I find the modern recoloring passable enough and have tons of Masterworks, Epic Collections, etc. and they are fine for the most part. So if I'm going to spend the money for something much more authentic, it has to be really special like volume 1 was. I was not planning on purchasing volume 2, but would not based on that comparison picture you posted, that definitely disappoints me after volume 1. |
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Post by kirby101 on Jul 23, 2024 8:54:54 GMT -5
Confessor and @supercat, You are both correct. These are very expensive and one needs to feel they are getting what they want. The coloring will turn away some and not bother others. YMMV. Taschen might have that in the description, but they definitely promoted them as facsimiles to the original comics. There is tweaking and correcting and then there is recoloring. My sense is V 2 goes to far to recoloring. I decided against V 2, but if Taschen has it on one of their 1/2 price sales, I could see succumbing to it's allure.
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