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Post by Dizzy D on Jun 13, 2024 2:37:20 GMT -5
During which years was that ad appearing on the back covers, out of curiosity? I don't remember it so maybe it came after my time as a regular Marvel/DC reader, if was one of those companies.
Late 80s, maybe still in some comics in the early 90s. Bubble Bobble came out in 1986, this specific add was around 1989.
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Post by commond on Jun 13, 2024 2:57:55 GMT -5
I think it’s from 1988.
Edit: the game out on NES in November 1988 so the ads would have ran into 1989.
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Post by shaxper on Jun 13, 2024 6:10:18 GMT -5
I think it’s from 1988. Edit: the game out on NES in November 1988 so the ads would have ran into 1989. The ad is copyright 1988, which jibes with your assessment. If anyone owns the original Sandman run or has access to scans, it would be a simple matter of going through the first dozen issues to see if any of them have this ad on the back. If not, it's one of the twenty zillion Superman or Batman books from that era. |
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Post by Dizzy D on Jun 13, 2024 6:47:59 GMT -5
I think it’s from 1988. Edit: the game out on NES in November 1988 so the ads would have ran into 1989. I looked at cover dates of some comics that had it in it, but had forgotten that for some reason cover dates and real dates have a few months between them, so it probably was in actual 88.
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Post by Confessor on Jun 13, 2024 11:18:23 GMT -5
As I saw more and more of his work though, I realized that his art is very static... good for a poster, but he's not a great story teller.. once you've seem him do everyone in an iconic pose, I feel like that covers it. I've seen this sort of comment online a fair bit, but I don't see it at all. I agree that Ross's artwork does indeed make for very nice posters, but I think his sequential, panel-to-panel flow is equally adept at conveying small, personal character moments and the big, dynamic action scenes alike. I think his art is anything but static. |
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Post by berkley on Jun 13, 2024 16:36:34 GMT -5
I haven't seen Ross's interior art, and therefore have no opinions on his story-telling abilities, but his covers aren't to my taste at all: where fans see awe-inspiring I see pompous and over-blown. None of his characters look interesting to me or make me want to read anything about them and their world. Obviously I'm not denying his ability and or doubting the connection many fans feel with his work, but for me it's always been a huge turn-off.
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Post by commond on Jun 13, 2024 16:41:23 GMT -5
That's harsh!
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Post by spoon on Jun 13, 2024 16:44:18 GMT -5
I think that might be an ad for the video game Bubble Bobble. But that ad appeared in so many different comics that if that's what it is, it wouldn't impossible to tell which comics it is. ETA: here's the ad I think it is: That's absolutely astounding that you can remember an ad for a game over 2 decades later! It's a bummer to never be able to identify the comic book, but thank you so much for answering my question! You're welcome. I didn't have to remember the ad from that far back, because I know I've re-read comics with that ad more recently. Also, I agree with folks saying that ad was probably from around 1988 or 1989. |
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Post by tarkintino on Jun 13, 2024 17:43:23 GMT -5
As I saw more and more of his work though, I realized that his art is very static... good for a poster, but he's not a great story teller.. once you've seem him do everyone in an iconic pose, I feel like that covers it. I've seen this sort of comment online a fair bit, but I don't see it at all. I agree that Ross's artwork does indeed make for very nice posters, but I think his sequential, panel-to-panel flow is equally adept at conveying small, personal character moments and the big, dynamic action scenes alike. I think his art is anything but static. Excellent point; part of his impact is his photographer's eye, and that does not mean using live models, but knowing how to capture near-endless points of view as a person moving through daily life, including those personal character moments. Making a comic--even a superhero comic feel like a slice of real life makes Ross' work powerful, and among the best representations of the characters in the medium's history. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 13, 2024 18:56:00 GMT -5
I haven't seen Ross's interior art, and therefore have no opinions on his story-telling abilities, but his covers aren't to my taste at all: where fans see awe-inspiring I see pompous and over-blown. None of his characters look interesting to me or make me want to read anything about them and their world. Obviously I'm not denying his ability and or doubting the connection many fans feel with his work, but for me it's always been a huge turn-off. Just out of curiosity, where do you stand on Normal Rockwell's work? |
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Post by berkley on Jun 13, 2024 19:09:55 GMT -5
I haven't seen Ross's interior art, and therefore have no opinions on his story-telling abilities, but his covers aren't to my taste at all: where fans see awe-inspiring I see pompous and over-blown. None of his characters look interesting to me or make me want to read anything about them and their world. Obviously I'm not denying his ability and or doubting the connection many fans feel with his work, but for me it's always been a huge turn-off. Just out of curiosity, where do you stand on Normal Rockwell's work?
As you might suspect, I do often find it cloying and over-sentimental. However, I would say these negative aspects come out to me more in the content than in the style or technique of his paintings, whereas with Ross it's both.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 13, 2024 19:34:36 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, where do you stand on Normal Rockwell's work?
As you might suspect, I do often find it cloying and over-sentimental. However, I would say these negative aspects come out to me more in the content than in the style or technique of his paintings, whereas with Ross it's both.
Just curious, since Rockwell influenced a lot of his layouts in Kingdom Come and some of his other works. I love the great magazine illustrators, like Rockwell and Leyendecker, Cornwell and NC Wyeth. There is something about their ability to convey a story in an image that captures my imagination and I have always seen the same thing in Ross' work. |
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Post by berkley on Jun 13, 2024 20:34:43 GMT -5
It's all about my personal reaction and not about Ross's ability or the taste of people who like his stuff.
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Post by berkley on Jun 13, 2024 20:45:01 GMT -5
As you might suspect, I do often find it cloying and over-sentimental. However, I would say these negative aspects come out to me more in the content than in the style or technique of his paintings, whereas with Ross it's both.
Just curious, since Rockwell influenced a lot of his layouts in Kingdom Come and some of his other works. I love the great magazine illustrators, like Rockwell and Leyendecker, Cornwell and NC Wyeth. There is something about their ability to convey a story in an image that captures my imagination and I have always seen the same thing in Ross' work.
Again, just describing my own reactions to their work, with Rockwell I often get the feeling I might be able to enjoy his painting - if he were painting something more interesting than than the slice of life or Americana, or what have you that he usually does. This feeling could be a mistaken, of course.
With Ross, I don't think it would matter - e.g. in terms of superheroes, he could do a series of covers of all my favourite characters and I think I'd find them just as unpleasant as everything else I've seen by him.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 13, 2024 21:12:20 GMT -5
Just curious, since Rockwell influenced a lot of his layouts in Kingdom Come and some of his other works. I love the great magazine illustrators, like Rockwell and Leyendecker, Cornwell and NC Wyeth. There is something about their ability to convey a story in an image that captures my imagination and I have always seen the same thing in Ross' work.
Again, just describing my own reactions to their work, with Rockwell I often get the feeling I might be able to enjoy his painting - if he were painting something more interesting than than the slice of life or Americana, or what have you that he usually does. This feeling could be a mistaken, of course.
With Ross, I don't think it would matter - e.g. in terms of superheroes, he could do a series of covers of all my favourite characters and I think I'd find them just as unpleasant as everything else I've seen by him.
I'm not judging your reaction; art is subjective. I kind of figured that if Ross wasn't your cup of tea, then his influences wouldn't be, either. I was just comparing that to my own tastes, that Ross fits within that same style that I really like. I don't care for the Cubists or many of the Impressionists and I am not big on comic artists who are more in that kind of abstract style, rather than a more illustrative one. I do like some of the Surrealists, like Magritte and Dali (to a certain extent) and have enjoyed some comic people who worked in that vein. My point is, I guess, that it seems like whatever speaks to you in other art forms often informs your impression of comic book work. That and whether it is just butt ugly.  |
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