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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2023 15:45:02 GMT -5
(I noted that users here usually don't like very much modern comics. Different tastes, times change, etc . I realized when people merciless bashed Supergirl, Woman Of The Tomorrow, a comic which I loved and has been a critically success - they will even make an animated movie from it) I was very excited to read Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow. Then a find a character drunk in a bar that first picks a fight out of boredom, then lets an innocent kid die because she doesn't feel like saving them. If that's Supergirl now, I have no interest in reading about her. Angsty redemption stories are a dime a dozen... and if that's NOT what it is, then I could just go read some 90s Lobo or something. Also, I really don't like anything Geoff Johns has done that isn't Stargirl. Now get off my my lawn! My wife and I always picture a Geoff Johns plotting session looking like him bouncing ideas of another dude ( a la Beavis and Butthead) in the back of a dingy comic shop... "Wouldn't it be cool, if like, uh, every color in the crayon box had like uh it's own lantern...heh heh heh?" "Wouldn't it be cool, if, heh, like, instead of one Joker, heh, there were like, uh three Jokers?" "Wouldn't it be cool if, heh we could say uh Shazam, heh, and then turn into an adult, heh, we could get beer! heh!" "I am heh, Sinest-holio! Heh, heh, heh!" -M |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 1, 2023 16:00:26 GMT -5
(I noted that users here usually don't like very much modern comics. Different tastes, times change, etc . I realized when people merciless bashed Supergirl, Woman Of The Tomorrow, a comic which I loved and has been a critically success - they will even make an animated movie from it) I like a lot of modern books, I just prefer optimism to shock, gore and nihilism. For instance I'm loving Nightwing, Worlds Finest, Action Comics, Superman, Moon Knight and TMNT/ Usagi but books like the Supergirl book you mentioned and Three Jokers just don't do anything for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2023 16:30:02 GMT -5
(I noted that users here usually don't like very much modern comics. Different tastes, times change, etc . I realized when people merciless bashed Supergirl, Woman Of The Tomorrow, a comic which I loved and has been a critically success - they will even make an animated movie from it) I like a lot of modern books, I just prefer optimism to shock, gore and nihilism. For instance I'm loving Nightwing, Worlds Finest, Action Comics, Superman, Moon Knight and TMNT/ Usagi but books like the Supergirl book you mentioned and Three Jokers just don't do anything for me. There's a ton of great modern comics. But they're the 10% of Sturgeon's Law. The rest are the 90% that are drek. It's the same as every era, but fans tend not to assess past eras objectively, but through the subjective lens of nostalgia, so the comics always seem better than they were, and the present books seems worse. -M |
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Post by zaku on Jun 1, 2023 16:40:34 GMT -5
(I noted that users here usually don't like very much modern comics. Different tastes, times change, etc . I realized when people merciless bashed Supergirl, Woman Of The Tomorrow, a comic which I loved and has been a critically success - they will even make an animated movie from it) I like a lot of modern books, I just prefer optimism to shock, gore and nihilism. For instance I'm loving Nightwing, Worlds Finest, Action Comics, Superman, Moon Knight and TMNT/ Usagi but books like the Supergirl book you mentioned and Three Jokers just don't do anything for me. Uh? Tastes differ etc, but calling Supergirl "gore" and "nihilistic" is a little stretch! |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 1, 2023 17:04:19 GMT -5
I like a lot of modern books, I just prefer optimism to shock, gore and nihilism. For instance I'm loving Nightwing, Worlds Finest, Action Comics, Superman, Moon Knight and TMNT/ Usagi but books like the Supergirl book you mentioned and Three Jokers just don't do anything for me. Uh? Tastes differ etc, but calling Supergirl "gore" and "nihilistic" is a little stretch! Tastes definitely can differ, I mostly didn't care for Supergirl because King riffed so hard on True Grit that it should have been cited as "Based on the novel True Grit by Charles Portis" in big bold letters on the title page and when it didn't and he got angry that people kept pointing that out on Twitter it felt like straight up plagerism. And then on top of that, all the growlexed out swear words just made it seem like King was trying too hard to be "gritty" that it came off as feeling really juvenile. I made it like two issues before bowing out and have never seen anything that made me feel like trying it again. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 2, 2023 9:03:16 GMT -5
You got farther than I did. I hate it when comic writers do that. If you have a story tell it, don't shoe horn in an existing character. Far Sector, for instance, was great. It would have been less great it they stuck Hal or Kyle in that role.
If King wanted to do Space True Grit I'd be down with that, but don't take an existing character and have them act completely out of character to fit your story.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 2, 2023 9:13:26 GMT -5
Uh? Tastes differ etc, but calling Supergirl "gore" and "nihilistic" is a little stretch! Tastes definitely can differ, I mostly didn't care for Supergirl because King riffed so hard on True Grit that it should have been cited as "Based on the novel True Grit by Charles Portis" in big bold letters on the title page and when it didn't and he got angry that people kept pointing that out on Twitter it felt like straight up plagerism. And then on top of that, all the growlexed out swear words just made it seem like King was trying too hard to be "gritty" that it came off as feeling really juvenile. I made it like two issues before bowing out and have never seen anything that made me feel like trying it again. So King stole another plot from an old book/movie? Color me shocked. |
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Jun 2, 2023 12:00:50 GMT -5
I don't read a lot of modern comics, but after trying King's Vision (really enjoyed) and Mister Miracle (less so) I gave his Supergirl a shot. I liked it quite a bit, especially the art by Bilquis Evely. Yes, the story is basically True Grit in space. Not having ever read much Supergirl except Silver Age appearances and random bits here and there, her behaving out of character didn't bother me, since I really have no idea what her character is post-1980s. I just assumed this was how she has been portrayed lately
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 2, 2023 12:45:53 GMT -5
Tastes definitely can differ, I mostly didn't care for Supergirl because King riffed so hard on True Grit that it should have been cited as "Based on the novel True Grit by Charles Portis" in big bold letters on the title page and when it didn't and he got angry that people kept pointing that out on Twitter it felt like straight up plagerism. And then on top of that, all the growlexed out swear words just made it seem like King was trying too hard to be "gritty" that it came off as feeling really juvenile. I made it like two issues before bowing out and have never seen anything that made me feel like trying it again. So King stole another plot from an old book/movie? Color me shocked. Yeah, it's definitely a pattern. And if he'd just credit the swipe I could almost accept it but with out it the swipes just feel demeaning. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 2, 2023 12:53:29 GMT -5
So King stole another plot from an old book/movie? Color me shocked. Yeah, it's definitely a pattern. And if he'd just credit the swipe I could almost accept it but with out it the swipes just feel demeaning. I've never liked what little of his work I've read anyway...but it's interesting to see his pattern. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 2, 2023 18:05:03 GMT -5
Yeah, it's definitely a pattern. And if he'd just credit the swipe I could almost accept it but with out it the swipes just feel demeaning. I've never liked what little of his work I've read anyway...but it's interesting to see his pattern. He can occasionally write a good book, I loved his Omegamen for instance, Grayson was a lot of fun, Vision was definitely interesting...but yeah he definitely has more misses at this point. |
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Post by majestic on Jul 12, 2023 20:29:37 GMT -5
So with DC's current Knight Terrors 2 month event that I am skipping... I decided to go back and pick up the Convergence issues from 2015. This week I read the Justice Society and Shazam issues. I enjoyed both more than I thought I would. Both had decent art and some nice moments seeing these heroes in their classic personas. I guess some events aren't so bad after all.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 13, 2023 9:25:31 GMT -5
Me too! Sounds very silly and very skippable.
I grabbed the 2 'Edge of Balance' Mangas that came out at the beginning of the High Republic.. not bad, but nothing to write home about either. Definitely glad it was an impulse library check out instead of buying them (which I intended, but then a big delay of the first one happened and it never got pulled at my LCS).
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 14, 2023 13:47:19 GMT -5
I just read Clayton, Julian Voloj's graphic novel on Clayton Patterson, described as an artist and chronicler of New York's lower east side urban life. I had never heard of Patterson before, but that was my loss: he seems to truly be larger than life; a creative powerhouse and social activist who would be right at home in an issue of Love & Rockets.
The book is a mix of photographs, fumetti and chapters drawn by different artists. An eclectic format that suits the subject quite well!
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 14, 2023 15:37:12 GMT -5
So with DC's current Knight Terrors 2 month event that I am skipping... I decided to go back and pick up the Convergence issues from 2015. This week I read the Justice Society and Shazam issues. I enjoyed both more than I thought I would. Both had decent art and some nice moments seeing these heroes in their classic personas. I guess some events aren't so bad after all. Convergence was actually pretty good for a low stakes, place holder event. I really loved how they brought back old creative teams. |
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