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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 14:50:24 GMT -5
Coming in 2016-Thanos The Infinity Finale to complete the trilogy CBR storyI've read the first and am waiting for the second to arrive at the house, so I will likely read this when it gets released. -M |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 2, 2015 15:08:47 GMT -5
Oy... I'm curious about what Starlin's ultimate plans for the characters are, but (a) I didn't much care either for the plot of the first GN or for replacing Warlock by an other-dinensional version of himself, and (b) I really don't like Ron Lim's art.
This should be a popular book among the fans of the '90s Infinity miniseries, though. I'm glad Marvel and Starlin could find a way to make this work.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 15:11:51 GMT -5
Apparently Starlin likes working with Lim, feels they are on the same page as far as storytelling goes, and since he started the story with Lim in the annual that preceded the first OGN, he wanted Lim on board to finish it up (or that is how he spins in when talking about all this-but there was a time he didn't want to draw anymore as he felt burned out and only wrote stuff, so maybe he has hit that wall again, who knows).
-M
PS I had no problem with the other dimensional Warlok as Starlin has always played with alternate Warlocks form finding a version of himself in the Soul Gem to the Magus himself, so I thought it was in line with things had been doing with the character all along.
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Post by dupersuper on Jul 2, 2015 19:38:08 GMT -5
I'm still feeling burned by the extremely poorly named Thanos Vs. Hulk...
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 2, 2015 20:02:24 GMT -5
I'm still feeling burned by the extremely poorly named Thanos Vs. Hulk... Ha! Me too andI bought it like a slut. But the last GN was really good. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 2, 2015 20:04:06 GMT -5
I like Lim but I'd prefer Starlin.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 22:46:46 GMT -5
I'm still feeling burned by the extremely poorly named Thanos Vs. Hulk... Again that one is on MArvel editorial/marketing not Starlin. Starlin was hired to do an arc of Savage Hulk, which he did, turned in the issues concurrently with Alan Davis turning in stuff for the first arc, so they were already in the can and ready to go as Hulk stories when editorial decided to do something else as the second arc and use those issues they already had as a standalone mini called Thanos vs. Hulk. As a Hulk arc in a Hulk book, they would have been fine and that was what Starlin was hired to do and did, Marvel decided they might get more sales if it was a mini trumpeting the hot property Thanos and mis-marketed it as such even though he was really just a supporting character in a Hulk story. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 8:30:27 GMT -5
Ye gods, not again. Starlin ran out of anything new to say about Thanos 30+ years ago, and he's been recycling the same story ever since.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 3, 2015 13:04:46 GMT -5
Apparently Starlin likes working with Lim, feels they are on the same page as far as storytelling goes, and since he started the story with Lim in the annual that preceded the first OGN, he wanted Lim on board to finish it up (or that is how he spins in when talking about all this-but there was a time he didn't want to draw anymore as he felt burned out and only wrote stuff, so maybe he has hit that wall again, who knows). He did seem to have a nice collaboration with Lim during their Silver Surfer days too, and it's true that Lim's storytelling is very clear. Oh, I agree that it's perfectly in line with what came before, and it even gives a little more importance to The Infinity Revelation (otherwise, the book would just have restarted the universe just as it had been). It's just that personally, I prefer to follow "my" Warlock than some new character who just looks like him. One of my favourite incarnations of Warlock, now two or three deaths in the past, was the young one who came out of his cocoon too early in Annihilation: conquest. I thought his accidental immaturity made for a nice blend between the very early, naive and inexperienced Warlock and the Moorcockesque doomed messiah he became in later years. Too bad he got caught by the GotG cancellation meat grinder! |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 4, 2015 1:14:52 GMT -5
I loved Starlin's Thanos stories up till the early 90's. Thanos Quest is the best Thanos story ever written and Infinity Gauntlet is one of the few good events ever. Infinity War and Crusade had their moments, but the cash grab nature of those two events led to some rushed art by Lim, which didn't do him justice. The Marvel Universe isn't as cohesive and stable as it was during the early 90's, so any Infinity type story he does now might not even be "in continuity." Not that that really matters in this day in age. I didn't care for Infinity Abyss or his Thanos series in the early 2000's. It felt too fan-fic to me. Thanos should get squashed flat within two seconds if he ever directly engaged Galactus!
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 4, 2015 18:48:39 GMT -5
Ye gods, not again. Starlin ran out of anything new to say about Thanos 30+ years ago, and he's been recycling the same story ever since. The words beat, horse and death come to my mind |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 5, 2015 7:49:05 GMT -5
Ye gods, not again. Starlin ran out of anything new to say about Thanos 30+ years ago, and he's been recycling the same story ever since. The words beat, horse and death come to my mind Wow, I have to disagree for two reasons: 1. The Infinity hardcovers are not stories that have been recycled. It was a new conflict in a new setting where Thanos plays the protagonist. He isn't the guy trying to kill the entire universe anymore. 2. It is difficult to come up with a story from ANY WRITER involving Thanos, Dr. Doom, Galactus , Lex Luthor et al, that a reader of 30-40 years hasn't seen before. Maybe we've just been in this hobby too long. I haven't read a Dr. Doom story in the last 25 years where he's been interesting. They have him as a doting godfather to Valeria because they no longer know what to do with him. |
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