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Post by Ozymandias on May 22, 2015 8:28:06 GMT -5
With the Ultimate Universe coming to its conclusion, an overview is in order. I've classified comics in four groups: Ultimate X-Men, Ultimates, Ultimate Fantastic Four and Ultimate Spider-Man. Here's the graph for the first group, it includes: Ultimate X-Men Ultimate War Ultimate X Ultimate Comics X-Men Ultimate Comics Wolverine Cataclysm - Ultimate Comics X-Men  A more detailed order is in the excel file. Ratings are on a 10 point scale. Attachments:UXM.xls (16 KB)
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Post by coinilius on May 22, 2015 11:17:42 GMT -5
What about Ultimate Adventures?  |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on May 22, 2015 11:30:51 GMT -5
What about Ultimate Adventures? Oh my God! I remember that! I swear I bought that... for some reason. |
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Post by Ozymandias on May 22, 2015 11:31:28 GMT -5
Ultimate Adventures, Ultimate Daredevil and Elektra, Ultimate Elektra, Ultimatum, Ultimate Fallout, Ultimate Origins, Hunger and Ultimate End, will be included in the smallest graph (UFF).
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Post by fanboystranger on May 22, 2015 12:26:14 GMT -5
What about Ultimate Adventures? Oh my God! I remember that! I swear I bought that... for some reason. If the reason is a love for Duncan Fegredo's art, then it's totally acceptable. Otherwise...whoa...
I'm completely shocked that Ron Zimmerman never turned into the comics superstar that Joe Quesada thought he was. 
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Post by Ozymandias on May 22, 2015 12:40:12 GMT -5
I'm completely shocked that Ron Zimmerman never turned into the comics superstar that Joe Quesada thought he was.
When I read Spider-Man's Tangled Web #13, I liked it and tried a couple of things from him ( Get Kraven and Sweet Charity). I couldn't even finish the Limited Series. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on May 22, 2015 13:09:16 GMT -5
Oh my God! I remember that! I swear I bought that... for some reason. If the reason is a love for Duncan Fegredo's art, then it's totally acceptable. Otherwise...whoa...
I'm completely shocked that Ron Zimmerman never turned into the comics superstar that Joe Quesada thought he was.
Yeah, strangely, I don't buy that many comics - I mean, for a guy who buys a lot of comics. I'd forgotten that Fegredo drew it - that might have been the culprit right there. And I did like all the early Ultimate stuff. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 23, 2015 8:33:01 GMT -5
Is Ultimate Adventures the Batman spoof? I remember that was pretty good  |
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Post by thwhtguardian on May 23, 2015 10:16:47 GMT -5
Is Ultimate Adventures the Batman spoof? I remember that was pretty good Yup, and it was awesome! If that were to make a come back, I'd buy it. |
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Post by Ozymandias on May 29, 2015 3:28:08 GMT -5
So, not a single comment about any of the 154 comics from the Ultimate X-Men franchise? I guess Fegredo must be huge around here.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 29, 2015 7:38:50 GMT -5
It looks like you found the series pretty consistently medicore... I thought the early issues (pretty much up to Ultimate War) were really good, then they spent far too much time shoehorning in random characters because people wanted their favorite Ultimate-ized.
Post-Ultimatium seemed like it could have been really good, but from what I've read they just copied the Wolverine-Cyclops thing with Kitty and Jean.
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Post by Ozymandias on May 29, 2015 11:33:22 GMT -5
The graph is for all the 154 comics from the Ultimate X-Men franchise, not just the namesake title. I've edited the initial post with a summary. Ultimate X-Men, in particular, went for 4.5 to 6, and then plummeted, in the last few issues, to 4.
Wanting an Ultimate version of so many characters, was the main problem with this imprint, for me. More times than not, the writers would skip on the presentation, taking for granted that the audience would know its background story. Focusing exclusively on the differences, made for sloppy characters, in many a case.
Jean's character was unrecognizable, in World War X. On top of that, Ultimate Comics X-Men had presented her as someone without clear goals and convictions, you never really knew what was up with her.
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Post by The Cheat on May 29, 2015 16:15:58 GMT -5
It looks like you found the series pretty consistently medicore... I thought the early issues (pretty much up to Ultimate War) were really good, then they spent far too much time shoehorning in random characters because people wanted their favorite Ultimate-ized. Yeah, that's what killed it for me too. It started off as a line aimed at attracting new readers, with the occasional easter egg thrown in for long time fans. Once they realised the new readers weren't coming though, they did a complete 180 and made the books pretty much devoid of any worth unless you were a long term fan who was interested solely in seeing which character/famous plotline they were going to do a slight variation on next. |
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Post by crazyoldhermit on Jun 2, 2015 1:36:09 GMT -5
Ultimate Spider-Man is one of my favorite series ever, as is Millar's first two Ultimates, but even though the premise interested me the rest of the UU never won me over, although I did really enjoy Millar's UXM now that I think about it.
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Post by Dizzy D on Jun 2, 2015 5:22:09 GMT -5
The Ultimate Universe:
Ultimate Spider-Man: I like Ultimate Spider-Man and think it's probably the most consistently good work that Bendis has ever done. The switch from Peter to Miles worked as well. And Aunt May's Home for Wayward Superheroes is one of my favourite runs on superhero comics ever.
Ultimate X-Men: Some parts worked, some parts didn't. I liked Brian K. Vaughn's run the best on it, but Kirkman drove me from the title and I haven't followed it ever since.
Ultimates: I liked Millar's first two series (only thing keeping them from being really great is Millar's tendency to go for shock value.), hated Loeb's series and haven't followed it since then. The recent revival looked interesting, but I didn't have the budget to get it.
Ultimate Fantastic Four: Had a really rough start, but I like the Carey-run on it. (Especially the Fourth World/FF crossover.) The best thing I liked about Ultimate Fantastic Four was that they made Susan an intellectual equal to Reed, just in a different field. The most recent version of UFF looked terrible though. Definitely a series hampered by artwork and bad design.
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