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Post by chadwilliam on Mar 26, 2018 15:12:29 GMT -5
At his best, Roy Raymond could stand shoulder to shoulder with Sherlock Holmes when it came to deductive prowess and intuitive logic - he might manage to uncover the first thread of trickery by noting the presence of contact lenses on a subject who has no reason to need them, which in turn, would lead to his deduction that a two-way mirror must be hidden near by, which would prompt the discovery of a broken watch, which would be the final clue required for Raymond to announce that he has all the evidence he needs to unravel this mystery and expose the sham he's been subjected to. At his worst however, we'd get a seemingly impossible puzzle thrown at us only to have Raymond's brilliant line of reasoning lead to the conclusion "You must be... an alien from the fourth dimension!" But in his element, Raymond was a reminder that the people writing these tales were highly educated writers brought up on the finest education a literate mind could supply itself with and since that element was the medium of comics, there was no shortage of those fun little 'Believe it or Not' tidbits you'd often find in stories of the time. The 'Impossible, But True' title of his show referenced not so much the main event, but the opening little wonders of the worlds discovered by Raymond on his trips around the globe. "Here we see a fish which emits sonar like a bat! A pair of 3-D glasses first used during the Renaissance! A tree which grows upside down!" Mixed with the 'Anything might happen on live TV' aura of television, these elements made for gripping reading.
I only hope he doesn't come back - God only knows what someone like Geoff Johns would do to him.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 26, 2018 15:16:42 GMT -5
So good to hear from Prince Hal on this vital public-affairs issue! Don't forget Dr. Thirteen! I first saw him in a Hugo Strange storyline in Batman and Detective around 1980. But I've since seen him in a lone issue of The Phantom Stranger I picked up somewhere. He sometimes comes off as having a little trouble dealing with the evidence of his five senses. (He turns out to be right in the Hugo Strange story.) Yeah, poor Dr. 13... PS kicks his rationalist @$$ every time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 15:30:39 GMT -5
Hoosier X ... About Roy Raymond ... Give me a couple of days to think about it and I'll try to give you an answer by Thursday and/or Friday at the latest. I need to be through and complete on this. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 4:42:40 GMT -5
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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 29, 2018 23:09:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the comments on Roy Raymond, Mecha! And also for the reprint of the first Roy Raymond story!
I'm now thinking of digging into the Martian Manunter's post-Detective days in House of Mystery.
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Post by Rob Allen on Mar 30, 2018 11:36:52 GMT -5
I'm now thinking of digging into the Martian Manunter's post-Detective days in House of Mystery. IIRC, that run was devoted to J'onn's ongoing war with the Idol-Head of Diabolu. Prepare for lots of Silver Age silliness.
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Post by MDG on Mar 30, 2018 12:50:30 GMT -5
I'm now thinking of digging into the Martian Manunter's post-Detective days in House of Mystery. IIRC, that run was devoted to J'onn's ongoing war with the Idol-Head of Diabolu. Prepare for lots of Silver Age silliness. After that, MM takes on a new identity as Marco Xavier and it becomes a kind've eurospy/super-criminal organization thing. But it overlaps with Dial H for Hero, so you've got that to look forward to.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 30, 2018 13:41:12 GMT -5
I'm now thinking of digging into the Martian Manunter's post-Detective days in House of Mystery. IIRC, that run was devoted to J'onn's ongoing war with the Idol-Head of Diabolu. Prepare for lots of Silver Age silliness. I hope you're not saying this as if it's a bad thing. Signed, Marco Xavier
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Post by Rob Allen on Mar 30, 2018 14:15:46 GMT -5
IIRC, that run was devoted to J'onn's ongoing war with the Idol-Head of Diabolu. Prepare for lots of Silver Age silliness. I hope you're not saying this as if it's a bad thing. Signed, Marco Xavier Of course not! Silver Age silliness is one of the pleasures of our hobby.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 30, 2018 14:27:46 GMT -5
I hope you're not saying this as if it's a bad thing. Signed, Marco Xavier Of course not! Silver Age silliness is one of the pleasures of our hobby. I knew you'd say that! Signed, The Vulture
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 1, 2018 12:42:16 GMT -5
I'm up to Detective Comics #490. There's an ongoing story with Batman sort of caught in the middle of a conflict between Ra's al Ghul and the League of Assassins. The Don Newton/Dan Adkins art is very nice but the story is mostly not doing a whole lot for me. Ra's al Ghul is not a character I like most of the time. They use him way too much. Like Darkseid. He has to get beat eventually, but failure after failure makes him look like a joke. So it would be much better if master villains like Ra's and Darkseid were reserved exclusively for epic storylines every ten years or so - and they have to almost win. (I hope they NEVER bring back the First Born! He was great in that one long storyline ... and it would be almost impossible to justify a revival.) The Spook appeared in #488. BRONZE AGE BONKERS! I loved it! Barbara Gordon lost the election and is no longer a Congresswoman! (She also lost the knowledge of Batman and Robin's secret identities through a very complicated and rather contrived set of circumstances. It's very important that Batman and Robin's secret identities are unknown to Batgirl because ... I dunno. Some editor with a bug up his butt?) Some really nice Ross Andru covers!
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 1, 2018 12:52:29 GMT -5
I read the first two Martian Manhunter stories after he moved over to House of Mystery. This is the period when he left the police force to combat the deviltry of the Idol-Head of Diabolu. That would be House of Mystery #143 and #144. (#143 has the famed cover where J'onn is fighting a giant Zook.) Lots of fun Silver Age Silliness. But I miss the old supporting cast! Where's the comforting presence of Captain Harding? He's always sitting behind his desk, barely paying attention to the bizarre menaces facing Middletown as he wonders what to do for lunch. ("It's Tuesday, isn't it? That means Sally's Sandwiches is having their "two-for-one Tuesday" sandwich sale! Two meatball sandwiches! I could go for that! Better take some dounuts to eat on the way.") But mostly I miss Diane Meade! The heart of the strip is just gone without pretty patrolwoman Diane Meade jumping to the obvious (but usually wrong) conclusion and leaping into traffic and falling off cliffs and accidentally stumbling on to the latest batch of random gangster aliens.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 17:05:26 GMT -5
I read the first two Martian Manhunter stories after he moved over to House of Mystery. This is the period when he left the police force to combat the deviltry of the Idol-Head of Diabolu. That would be House of Mystery #143 and #144. (#143 has the famed cover where J'onn is fighting a giant Zook.) Lots of fun Silver Age Silliness. But I miss the old supporting cast! Where's the comforting presence of Captain Harding? He's always sitting behind his desk, barely paying attention to the bizarre menaces facing Middletown as he wonders what to do for lunch. ("It's Tuesday, isn't it? That means Sally's Sandwiches is having their "two-for-one Tuesday" sandwich sale! Two meatball sandwiches! I could go for that! Better take some dounuts to eat on the way.") But mostly I miss Diane Meade! The heart of the strip is just gone without pretty patrolwoman Diane Meade jumping to the obvious (but usually wrong) conclusion and leaping into traffic and falling off cliffs and accidentally stumbling on to the latest batch of random gangster aliens. I love Diane Meade character too ... those early Manhunter stories were gloriously charming when she around and that why I loved those early JJ/MM stories so much!
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Post by Cheswick on Apr 3, 2018 4:11:55 GMT -5
I'm up to Detective Comics #490. There's an ongoing story with Batman sort of caught in the middle of a conflict between Ra's al Ghul and the League of Assassins. The Don Newton/Dan Adkins art is very nice but the story is mostly not doing a whole lot for me. Ra's al Ghul is not a character I like most of the time. They use him way too much. Like Darkseid. He has to get beat eventually, but failure after failure makes him look like a joke. So it would be much better if master villains like Ra's and Darkseid were reserved exclusively for epic storylines every ten years or so - and they have to almost win. (I hope they NEVER bring back the First Born! He was great in that one long storyline ... and it would be almost impossible to justify a revival.) The Spook appeared in #488. BRONZE AGE BONKERS! I loved it! Barbara Gordon lost the election and is no longer a Congresswoman! (She also lost the knowledge of Batman and Robin's secret identities through a very complicated and rather contrived set of circumstances. It's very important that Batman and Robin's secret identities are unknown to Batgirl because ... I dunno. Some editor with a bug up his butt?) Some really nice Ross Andru covers! One of my favorite moments in 490 is when Batman literally face palms himself in frustration, then tells the source of his frustration--a stubborn Reverend he's trying to rescue--how much he'd like to hit him.
I also like the Sensei's convoluted plan (it involves a weaponized earthquake), and his reasoning behind it: that he's an "artist" that works in the medium of death.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 1:23:21 GMT -5
Hoosier X ... FYI. Top 5 Roy Raymond's Stories in OrderDetective Comics #198 ... Destination - Mars! Detective Comics #153 ... Impossible, But True Detective Comics #193 ... Roy Raymond's Rival Detective Comics #279 ... The Creature from the Sorcerer's Stone Detective Comics #236 ... The Magic Tablecloth I can barely recall the bottom two stories ... for memory sakes.
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