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Post by numberthirty on May 29, 2014 12:00:31 GMT -5
That's the problem(well, one of the problems). It is not modern. If you are old enough to remember Image comics during the nineties, the New52 is very nineties Image.
Even Dial H(which was an amazing run) had a ninties Vertigo feel.
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Post by hondobrode on May 29, 2014 19:35:40 GMT -5
Haven't read the Gold Key/Dynamite ~ DynaKey ~ Solar, Magnus, Turok, Dr Spektor yet.
Never thought I'd care at all about those characters as I never saw the comics except for a couple of times, and Gold Keys turned me off as a kid.
I got on the Valiant bandwagon late but feel in love with all of them.
I'll definitely get them, but has anyone read them yet ?
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Post by DubipR on May 29, 2014 20:03:03 GMT -5
Haven't read the Gold Key/Dynamite ~ DynaKey ~ Solar, Magnus, Turok, Dr Spektor yet. Never thought I'd care at all about those characters as I never saw the comics except for a couple of times, and Gold Keys turned me off as a kid. I got on the Valiant bandwagon late but feel in love with all of them. I'll definitely get them, but has anyone read them yet ? I'm enjoying the new Turok and Magnus. Definitely the strongest of the 4 from Dynamite.
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Post by hondobrode on May 29, 2014 20:05:46 GMT -5
Never read Spektor, but it sounds good too. Kind of Doctor Thirteen-ish.
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Post by the4thpip on May 30, 2014 1:46:38 GMT -5
Haven't read the Gold Key/Dynamite ~ DynaKey ~ Solar, Magnus, Turok, Dr Spektor yet. Never thought I'd care at all about those characters as I never saw the comics except for a couple of times, and Gold Keys turned me off as a kid. I got on the Valiant bandwagon late but feel in love with all of them. I'll definitely get them, but has anyone read them yet ? I read Magnus #1 and really enjoyed it.
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Post by the4thpip on May 30, 2014 1:47:49 GMT -5
Never read Spektor, but it sounds good too. Kind of Doctor Thirteen-ish. That one's by Mark Waid, right? I placed an order for that with my dealer. Sad Waid is leaving Hulk, but I guess the character never clicked with him the way Daredevil and Green Hornet did.
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Post by thwhtguardian on May 30, 2014 9:58:23 GMT -5
Anybody else pick up Trees by Warren Ellis?
Personally,I liked the concept and the world they introduced has my interest but as a single issue it left me a bit cold. It was just too fragmented for my tastes, but I realize long form is more Ellis' style so I may give it another issue.
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Post by thebeastofyuccaflats on May 30, 2014 11:09:13 GMT -5
Chew/Revival was pretty tits; for the Chew crew's half in particular (though Tony & Ibrahim's interactions in the latter couldn't be beat). John'll just never keep it in his half-bionic drawers, will he?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 30, 2014 13:27:45 GMT -5
I have read "X-Men Gold" comic, celebrating the 50th anniversary of the team. It's nice to have creators like Roy Thomas, Chris Claremont, Len Wein and Stan Lee himself write a little X-Men again for the occasion, and although Fabian Nicieza was pretty much after my time I'm sure many view him as a "classic" X-writer as well.
I was especially happy to see a story set during one of my favourite eras, back when Madelyne Pryor was a real person and not a super-powered demonic clone. Claremont handles that one, naturally, and although the story itself is nothing special it feels like going home again. (Corsair is however wrongly named "Nathan" by Xavier; how did the editor let it pass? Oh, that's right... the editor was five years old back then).
Seeing Wolverine's brown costume again made me loathe the yellow spandex/short ears look even more than before. Why did they ever get rid of that one? Grumblegrumblegrumblegripe.
An anniversary issue like this, however, emphasizes all that is wrong about allowing new writers to mess with established continuity willy-nilly. (I'm no absolutist, mind you: if an astounding idea that requires changing continuity comes along, then fine -shades of Alan Moore on Swamp Thing. But usually, X-continuity has been messed with for no good purpose). Having old writers tell stories set in the past should play the nostalgia chord; elicit a fond memory of not only what was happening way back when, but also of what would follow. Having a young Kitty and Logan swear they'd always be there to help each other out, for example, reminds us of how that came to be true in later years. Seeing Scott with Madelyne, we think of how tragically their romance would end. Unfortunately, in hindsight, we can't really appreciate the nostalgia as much as we're meant to because most things we see are fake: Madelyne is a recently-decanted clone of Jean Grey with a fake personality; Xavier is a ruthless bloke who enslaves thinking machines, sacrifices students and mind-wipes people so they won't remember it; the events of Giant-size X-Men #94 were retconned into something else... this trip down memory lane turns out to be a fake journey.
The artwork is unequal. There is a nice Walt Simonson shorty, the one scripted by Stan Lee, but I'd have loved to also see more artwork by classic X-Men artists. Not the ones we sadly lost, naturally, but perhaps something by Neal Adams, Michael Golden, Paul Smith, Marc Silvestri, John Romita Jr and... nah, I don't think John Byrne would have gone for it. But still, it would have been nice.
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Post by hondobrode on May 30, 2014 18:32:15 GMT -5
I have read "X-Men Gold" comic, celebrating the 50th anniversary of the team. It's nice to have creators like Roy Thomas, Chris Claremont, Len Wein and Stan Lee himself write a little X-Men again for the occasion, and although Fabian Nicieza was pretty much after my time I'm sure many view him as a "classic" X-writer as well. I was especially happy to see a story set during one of my favourite eras, back when Madelyne Pryor was a real person and not a super-powered demonic clone. Claremont handles that one, naturally, and although the story itself is nothing special it feels like going home again. (Corsair is however wrongly named "Nathan" by Xavier; how did the editor let it pass? Oh, that's right... the editor was five years old back then). Seeing Wolverine's brown costume again made me loathe the yellow spandex/short ears look even more than before. Why did they ever get rid of that one? Grumblegrumblegrumblegripe. An anniversary issue like this, however, emphasizes all that is wrong about allowing new writers to mess with established continuity willy-nilly. (I'm no absolutist, mind you: if an astounding idea that requires changing continuity comes along, then fine -shades of Alan Moore on Swamp Thing. But usually, X-continuity has been messed with for no good purpose). Having old writers tell stories set in the past should play the nostalgia chord; elicit a fond memory of not only what was happening way back when, but also of what would follow. Having a young Kitty and Logan swear they'd always be there to help each other out, for example, reminds us of how that came to be true in later years. Seeing Scott with Madelyne, we think of how tragically their romance would end. Unfortunately, in hindsight, we can't really appreciate the nostalgia as much as we're meant to because most things we see are fake: Madelyne is a recently-decanted clone of Jean Grey with a fake personality; Xavier is a ruthless bloke who enslaves thinking machines, sacrifices students and mind-wipes people so they won't remember it; the events of Giant-size X-Men #94 were retconned into something else... this trip down memory lane turns out to be a fake journey. The artwork is unequal. There is a nice Walt Simonson shorty, the one scripted by Stan Lee, but I'd have loved to also see more artwork by classic X-Men artists. Not the ones we sadly lost, naturally, but perhaps something by Neal Adams, Michael Golden, Paul Smith, Marc Silvestri, John Romita Jr and... nah, I don't think John Byrne would have gone for it. But still, it would have been nice. You can't go back home.
Yeah, why couldn't those artists be in there ? Of course it'd be awesome if Byrne would do it. Heck, I'd buy it and tons of people would.
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Post by hondobrode on May 30, 2014 18:33:25 GMT -5
Never read Spektor, but it sounds good too. Kind of Doctor Thirteen-ish. That one's by Mark Waid, right? I placed an order for that with my dealer. Sad Waid is leaving Hulk, but I guess the character never clicked with him the way Daredevil and Green Hornet did. Yeah, Waid's doing it. Sounds good. Waid isn't always great, but most of the time he's bank-ably good.
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Post by Jesse on May 31, 2014 2:48:39 GMT -5
I just read Black Canary and Zatanna: Bloodspell and really enjoyed it. The Paul Dini writing is fun and Joe Quinones' artwork is always awesome. This panel made me laugh. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 1, 2014 6:45:11 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the deal is with the upcoming Hulk Vs. Iron Man book? It appears to be a Original Sin spinoff.
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Post by Randle-El on Jun 1, 2014 14:28:23 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the deal is with the upcoming Hulk Vs. Iron Man book? It appears to be a Original Sin spinoff. I think it has something to do with the latest retcon -- that Tony Stark somehow had a part in the gamma explosion that resulted in the Bruce Banner becoming the Hulk. The entire Original Sin event seems to be pretty much an excuse to do a bunch of them, e.g., the spider that bit Peter Parker bit someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 15:34:57 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the deal is with the upcoming Hulk Vs. Iron Man book? It appears to be a Original Sin spinoff. It's a spin-off of Original Sin called Original Sins (how original) and the creative team alternates between Mark Waid and Kieron Gillen (the current Hulk and Iron Man writers) and explores the Tony/Bruce relationship (or if you want is a ret-con of that relationship). I forget off hand who the artitsts are, but one artist does the two Waid issues and another does the two Gillen issues. -M
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