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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 5, 2015 8:41:50 GMT -5
I have this series on reserve with my LCS. It might be where I close the door on current Marvel. Where does everyone else stand on this event?
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Post by The Captain on Apr 5, 2015 14:13:51 GMT -5
This is less a jumping-off point for me and more a validation that the slow but steady decrease in my monthly purchases over the past three years has been the right move. In 2012, I was still getting 10+ titles per month, whereas now I'm down to just two (Moon Knight and Captain America).
They've run out of ideas, and no matter how much they want to tell us that things are going to change with this, nothing will actually change, because they have to protect the properties involved. Creativity has taken a backseat to marketability, so I'll spend my money buying back issues and reading things that aren't being produced simply to make a buck for the parent company or to further a brand.
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Post by Action Ace on Apr 5, 2015 15:44:26 GMT -5
It turns out Civil War was my jumping off point for Marvel. The last new issue from the main Marvel universe I bought was Captain America #25 in 2007. I've bought some since then as back issues over the years, but I haven't put any new Marvel on my pull list until the new Star Wars comics.
I'm down to get the All-New All-Different Mark Waid Avengers on Free Comic Book Day, but there is NO chance of me picking up that series with that cast. It might be given away before I leave the shop.
The good news for Disney is that I still like some of the cartoons and movies, so they're still getting money from me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 15:54:14 GMT -5
All depends what comes afterwards. I have no interest in reading the event, and don't care for continuity shattering stories or continuity patch type stories. If Marvel puts out a solid series with solid creators that I want to read, I'll check it out as always, if not, I will happily skip it. I'll likely continue to trade wait on Ms. Marvel and wait and see what they do with a Doc Strange series as the movie gets closer, but I have been done buying books because of the company label for a long time, so I just buy the stuff that appeals to me or not on a case by case, title by title basis.
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Post by coke & comics on Apr 5, 2015 16:45:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't say I'm on at the moment. I look to events like this mainly to see what titles they spawn and pick up the ones that look interesting in trades.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 5, 2015 17:25:10 GMT -5
I was buying some odd Avengers books over the last few years , but at 4 dollars a pop , it has to really be good.
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Post by Spike-X on Apr 5, 2015 18:20:48 GMT -5
If the comics are good I'll check them out, if they aren't I'll turn my attentions elsewhere.
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Post by Spike-X on Apr 5, 2015 18:22:10 GMT -5
Creativity has taken a backseat to marketability, so I'll spend my money buying back issues and reading things that aren't being produced simply to make a buck for the parent company or to further a brand. I don't know how to tell you this Richard, but...comicbook publishers are a business. Every comic they produce is to make money. That's how a business works. |
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Post by The Captain on Apr 5, 2015 19:30:46 GMT -5
Creativity has taken a backseat to marketability, so I'll spend my money buying back issues and reading things that aren't being produced simply to make a buck for the parent company or to further a brand. I don't know how to tell you this Richard, but...comicbook publishers are a business. Every comic they produce is to make money. That's how a business works. Wait, what? This is completely new information for me to have to process on such short notice. I've been under the impression they were making art for no reason other than the enjoyment of the fans and so that they can go to bed at night with the satisfaction that they had, in some small way, made the world a little brighter with their tales of men in capes who combat the evils of the world. /sarcasm Yes, I understand that the publishers are a business and are there to make money, and they have been since the beginning. However, in the past, when the Green Goblin killed Gwen Stacy or when Jean Grey sacrificed herself or when Cap quit after the Secret Empire affair, it felt as though those events were important, because we hadn't gotten jerked around with the whole "NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME AGAIN" hype leading up to it. They were events that were shocking not because we were told to expect something shocking but because we weren't expecting those outcomes and hadn't been led to believe otherwise. Gwen was gone for years, as was Jean, and while Cap came back in a much shorter span of time, he was less idealistic and more jaded about authority. Today's events can't change anything, because Disney and Time Warner have too much money invested in the characters as properties to allow anything groundbreaking or paradigm-shifting to occur. We just get different lipstick on the same old pigs, with team lineups changing or characters being "replaced' for short periods of time to give some illusion of change, but in the end, everything will revert back to the status quo in time for the next movie to be released because that is where the real money is at. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 6, 2015 4:55:46 GMT -5
R. Bishop comments makes me wonder why the big two didn't always overly hype their events even in the 60's/70's ? They were always in in to make money.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Apr 6, 2015 8:34:49 GMT -5
No plans to buy Secret Wars or to increase my Marvel buying either before it or after. Right now, the only things I'm getting from Marvel are Guardians of the Galaxy (on the bubble, don't care about this Black Vortex stuff), Guardians 3000, & Captain Marvel. I'm enjoying the last two, so as long as they stay enjoyable, I'll keep getting them. Nothing else is interesting me right now. Though I will get the Avengers comic on FCBD, because it's free.
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 6, 2015 8:42:46 GMT -5
Some of the Marvel stuff looks cool, like Weirdworld with Arkon, but, I'll wait for the sales.
I haven't paid full price for current Marvel since Agents of Atlas or Mystery Men.
When they go on sale here and there on Comixology for $.99 each, I look, and sometimes buy, like Uncanny Avengers.
Still interested, vaguely, but have gotten burned so many times in the past like others have expressed, that I don't care anymore and continuity went out the door years ago.
The best content is coming from the indies / indys : Image, Valiant, Dark Horse, IDW, Dynamite, Boom ! Things still matter, it feels like the whole creative team puts more heart and soul into it, and I like supporting smaller companies and creators get a better deal here.
Pound for pound, the best superhero line going is Valiant. It all fits together and most of the creators are yesterday's stars from DC & Marvel.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 6, 2015 8:51:37 GMT -5
Some of the Marvel stuff looks cool, like Weirdworld with Arkon, For a moment, I actually got excited, thinking they were resurrecting Moench and Ploog's Weirdworld from the 1970s. Then I read up on it. Sigh. Looks like, once again, Marvel won't be getting any of my money. |
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 6, 2015 9:09:32 GMT -5
I'm with you Shax.
This new Weirdworld with Conan Arkon sounds pretty funky, but yeah, I've wondered for years why Marvel doesn't take a run at revisiting the Moench / Ploog / Buscema characters, esp with the phenomenal success of The Lord of the Rings.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 11:50:55 GMT -5
R. Bishop comments makes me wonder why the big two didn't always overly hype their events even in the 60's/70's ? They were always in in to make money. They did, using the mechanisms available to them then, which were house ads and the bullpen bulletins type pages, the blurbs at the bottom of the pages in early 70s Marvels and in what fanzines existed a the time. Marvel produced FOOM to hype their stuff and DC did the Amazing World of DC Comics. There was no fan press and internet available hen, no websites like CBR and Bleeding Cool, the LA Times didn't have a Hero Complex section in there daily paper like they do on their website now, etc. They hyped as much as the market allowed them at the time and when comics as a business and newsworthy subject got noticed the opportunities to hype grew and comics took them. If the resources to hype their materials that we have now were available in the 60s and 70s, they would have been used much like they are being used today. We think of things like FOOM and Bullpen Bulletins as quaint, cool, treasured memories, but they were the crass commercialism of comics of their time. The impulse was there, the tools didn't allow it. Give them better tools and the impulse sees fruition. -M |
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