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Post by coke & comics on Jan 23, 2015 18:07:48 GMT -5
This month's theme was the perfect excuse to rewatch this on DVD as I haven't watched it in years. Definitely the best live action Spider-Man film and I think it holds up very well. Visually this movie is really cool and it reminds me of why I grew up loving Sam Raimi as a director. The Doctor Octopus surgery scene contained many shots that are straight out of his Evil Dead films. In fact there are a few other scenes that also have a horror movie vibe. While I wasn't a fan of the unmasking scene at the time it is no doubt a powerful and emotional scene. I go back and forth on whether I prefer 2 or the original. The inner conflict and the relationships with Harry and MJ are definitely stronger in 2, but I'll take Willam Defoe's Green Goblin over Alfred Molina's Doc Oc any day. I frequently do not understand your opinions. |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 23, 2015 18:20:17 GMT -5
I go back and forth on whether I prefer 2 or the original. The inner conflict and the relationships with Harry and MJ are definitely stronger in 2, but I'll take Willam Defoe's Green Goblin over Alfred Molina's Doc Oc any day. I frequently do not understand your opinions. Heh. The Green Goblin/Doc Oc part, or the Harry and MJ part? |
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Post by coke & comics on Jan 24, 2015 3:06:55 GMT -5
I frequently do not understand your opinions. Heh. The Green Goblin/Doc Oc part, or the Harry and MJ part? The Doc Ock part. MJ and Harry are meh at their best in the films |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 24, 2015 8:04:51 GMT -5
The Green Goblin/Doc Oc part, Okay. Well, the Green Goblin costume was laughable and hokey, but Willam Defoe outside of the costume utterly blew me away, especially his internal conflict with his darker self and his masterful acting when conveying his complex emotions towards both Harry and Peter. Alfred Molina was a visually better villain and more entertaining in the throwdown scenes, but out of the costume, he was a far less complex character, I think, due more to the writing itself than anything Molina did wrong. Sure, he had the perfect relationship and then went insane. There just wasn't anywhere near as much for me to get invested in. But Defoe sans mask was, hands down, my favorite part of the Spider-Man franchise. Oh, Kirstin Dunst was a trainwreck herself, but I loved James Franco in this -- I completely felt for him even while watching him become a total douche. It was all in Franco's face. I generally don't think he's a great actor, but he conveyed so much in those films. But, in part two, Spidey's relationship with MJ, the struggle and that reconciliation at the end, I loved what it did for Peter in spite of Kirstin Dunst. Really made that second film for me. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 24, 2015 11:34:06 GMT -5
I was considering breaking out both Batman serials, but wasn't sure whether they met Chris' criteria for the month. Still hope to get my hands on the Captain Marvel serial one day. It's on youtube, Shax. Just last weeks showed a part of Episode One to a class that was reading Pete Hammill's "Snow in August," in which the protagonist's love for Captain Marvel and crime comics plays a key part in the story. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 24, 2015 11:51:37 GMT -5
Haven't been able to toss in much here, but I must agree with those who chose The Phantom, The Rocketeer, and The Shadow.
All skillfully walked the line between being too serious and being campy and did justice to the traditions of each of the characters.
Agree also with the selection of the Captain Marvel and Dr. Daka/ Batman serials. Will weigh in with more next month when the topic is serials.
Haven't seen the Tarzan serials, but wanted to point out a bit of trivia. Herman Brix,one of the serial Tarzans, was a big strapping athlete who played for Washington in the Rose Bowl, won a batch of shot put titles before and after college, took the silver medal in the shot put at the 1928 Olympics, and was actually ER Burroughs' choice to be Tarzan in the movies. Brix broke his shoulder in another film, however, and the role went to Johnny Weissmuller. He became a serial star (see Daredevils of the Red Circle, for example), and was also a character actor under the name Bruce Bennett. (He reinvented himself with that name b/c he was so identified w/ Tarzan.) Often did his own stunts.
Probably his most famous roles were in the classics Mildred Pierce and The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.
He lived to be 100 years old, too.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 24, 2015 12:08:36 GMT -5
Haven't been able to toss in much here, but I must agree with those who chose The Phantom, The Rocketeer, and The Shadow. All skillfully walked the line between being too serious and being campy and did justice to the traditions of each of the characters. Agree also with the selection of the Captain Marvel and Dr. Daka/ Batman serials. Will weigh in with more next month when the topic is serials. Haven't seen the Tarzan serials, but wanted to point out a bit of trivia. Herman Brix,one of the serial Tarzans, was a big strapping athlete who played for Washington in the Rose Bowl, won a batch of shot put titles before and after college, took the silver medal in the shot put at the 1928 Olympics, and was actually ER Burroughs' choice to be Tarzan in the movies. Brix broke his shoulder in another film, however, and the role went to Johnny Weissmuller. He became a serial star (see Daredevils of the Red Circle, for example), and was also a character actor under the name Bruce Bennett. (He reinvented himself with that name b/c he was so identified w/ Tarzan.) Often did his own stunts. Probably his most famous roles were in the classics Mildred Pierce and The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.He lived to be 100 years old, too. It's interesting to note just how many of these early action stars were Olympic athletes, Buster Crabbe of Flash Gordon and Tarzan fame was an Olympic swimmer, Herman Brix(as you mentioned above) was an Olympic shot putter, Johnny Weissmuller was an Olympic Swimmer, Jim Thorpe was probably the most versatile athlete of all time and probably a bunch of others that I'm forgetting. I guess athletes still often make the transition to acting even today as such action stars as Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lou Ferigno and the Rock can attest, but it seems like there was a much higher ratio back in days of yore. |
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Post by shaxper on Jan 24, 2015 23:32:33 GMT -5
I was considering breaking out both Batman serials, but wasn't sure whether they met Chris' criteria for the month. Still hope to get my hands on the Captain Marvel serial one day. It's on youtube, Shax. Just last weeks showed a part of Episode One to a class that was reading Pete Hammill's "Snow in August," in which the protagonist's love for Captain Marvel and crime comics plays a key part in the story. You just made my month! |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 25, 2015 10:54:54 GMT -5
It's on youtube, Shax. Just last weeks showed a part of Episode One to a class that was reading Pete Hammill's "Snow in August," in which the protagonist's love for Captain Marvel and crime comics plays a key part in the story. You just made my month! Mine too, Captain Marvel is certainly going to be first up for me, though I think I'll do it chapter by chapter. |
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Post by robsuperfriend63 on Jan 25, 2015 13:37:29 GMT -5
Anyone remember the 1987 version of The Spirit?  I actually liked this version. A little campy, but I thought the theme music was very cool. Plus it starred Sam Jones (Flash Gordon), and Nana Visitor (From Star Trek:DS9). |
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Post by coke & comics on Jan 25, 2015 14:22:16 GMT -5
I never before this moment knew there was an '80s Spirit movie.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 25, 2015 15:03:58 GMT -5
I never before this moment knew there was an '80s Spirit movie. That makes the two of us. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 16:42:57 GMT -5
I do it was a bit fun to watch and it was a decent film as well. I did enjoyed Phillip Baker Hall as Servin and the trio of Sam Jones, Garry Walberg, and Nana Vistor was good in their own respected roles and it's was a good film, nothing fancy, but a honest made for TV Movie that was made for the summer of 1987. I watched that movie out of curiosity and it's was Sam J. Jones as the Spirit/Denny Colt and he did a decent job for this movie. Here's the Preview Clip below.
PREVIEW CLIP
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Post by MDG on Jan 25, 2015 16:45:58 GMT -5
I never before this moment knew there was an '80s Spirit movie. That makes the two of us. It was done for TV. Never seen it. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 25, 2015 18:03:43 GMT -5
Nana Vistor!? I'm sold.
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