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Post by Confessor on Jan 15, 2015 13:50:14 GMT -5
...I wondered if for some reason they were only allowed to use Han and Chewie in the comics. Actually, you're kind of right. Roy Thomas was initially told by Lucasfilm that he couldn't use Darth Vader or have Luke meet Darth Vader, he also couldn't advance the Luke & Leia romance. That's partly why he separated Han and Chewbacca off from the rest of the cast and sent them on this adventure. The fact that Han was his favourite character from the film was another reason, and the uncertainty at this stage about whether Han would even be in a sequel movie was yet another.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 15, 2015 14:20:48 GMT -5
#7-9 were the first SW comics I ever read (I got them in a three-pack) and I remember being very confused by this gang of characters. There were what appeared to be knockoffs of all the main characters from the movie, and I wondered if for some reason they were only allowed to use Han and Chewie in the comics. I too got those issues in a three-pack. Jaxxon is from Coachelle-Prime. Hmmmmm...another, more famous, rabbit had a habit of talking about the Coachella Valley and the big carrot festival, therein.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 15, 2015 15:54:44 GMT -5
So is Coachelle-Prime 3 light years left of Albequerque then?
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Post by Confessor on Jan 16, 2015 9:20:08 GMT -5
Jaxxon is from Coachelle-Prime. Hmmmmm...another, more famous, rabbit had a habit of talking about the Coachella Valley and the big carrot festival, therein. Oh yes, Jaxxon is a definite homage to Bugs Bunny. Even his name is derived from the cartoon rabbit's method of addressing strangers with the generic nickname "Jackson" in the 1940s cartoons. Archie Goodwin also played up the Loony Tunes connection with Jaxxon when he took over as writer, naming two bounty hunters that were trying to capture Jaxxon in Star Wars #16 as Dafi and Fud (as in Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd). Here's what Roy Thomas had to say about the Magnificent Seven-esque "Eight for Aduba-3" storyline, Jaxxon and George Lucas' reaction to him, and his own waning interest in the SW comic book in Alter-Ego magazine (Vol. 3) #68... "George was unhappy with the way the storyline was going. George thought it was too close to The Magnificent Seven (who knows, maybe is was). What's more, George particularly disliked one of the seven being a six-foot alien who resembled a green Bugs Bunny in space gear. In the latter instance, I had been 'inspired' in part by seeing a Porky Pig looking alien in the cantina sequence, either in the rough cut or on some production sketches at some early point. I had figured that my 'green rabbit' Jaxxon wasn't really much weirder than a Wookiee, but obviously George, as the creator of the Star Wars mythos, felt differently. I respected George ... but this line of conversation was beginning to annoy me. That's not to say that George was necessarily wrong, of course. And in some way, his very rightness may be the point. I had discovered by now that, love the movie though I did, I really had little interest in continuing to handle the comic book version. Star Wars was George Lucas' fantasy, not mine."
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Post by Confessor on Jan 16, 2015 9:55:38 GMT -5
Pizzazz #5Cover dated: February 1978 Issue title: Pursuit Among the Ruins! ( The Keeper's World, Part 5) Script: Roy Thomas Artwork: Howard Chaykin (pencils)/Tony DeZuniga (inks) Colours: Marie Severin Letters: Denise Wohl Overall rating: 3 out of 10 Plot summary: An Imperial shuttle craft lands on the uncharted world that Luke, Leia, C-3PO and R2-D2 have crash landed on, intent on apprehending the Rebels. Pursuing Luke and the others through the jungle and into an ancient, disused temple compound, the Imperials corner the Rebels in a dead end. As the Imperial stormtroopers are about to open fire, C-3PO accidentally knocks a stone lever with his elbow and Luke, Leia and the droids all vanish into thin air. Comments: This episode of The Keeper's World storyline is, like last issue, a bit more exciting than the earlier instalments. Chaykin and DeZuniga's art is still quite slap-dash and rushed-looking though. So, overall, I think this instalment is probably on a par with last issue. Continuity issues: - The Imperial shuttle craft looks like a TIE fighter, which is a small, one man spaceship incapable of carrying a squad of stormtroopers, as it does here.
Favourite panel: Favourite quote: "We are going to do something, Luke. We're going to run!" – Princess Leia suggests that discretion is the better part of valour.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 16, 2015 11:29:25 GMT -5
Man, the coloring in that panel is fantastic, I love the way the yellow really sets the pilot stormtrooper apart from the back ground.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 16, 2015 13:25:55 GMT -5
Hey now, Don-Wan Kihotay is fantastic! But I agree that the art here is a huge improvement over all the previous issues, Chewie looks perfect and the Bantha's are spot on, so I'm thinking Tom Palmer did a whole lot of embellishing here because if I hadn't read his name in there myself I wouldn't have thought Chaykin did the art here at all. I love all the fun references here, not just Jaxxon and Kihotay, but that same bar scene with the pig faced girl friend seemed like a call out to the Muppets; the girlfriend didn't look much like Piggy but metal nosed boyfriend looked like Gonzo to me. But my favorites were the Buck Rogers cameo in that scene where Leia is saying goodbye to Luke, and that Serio was wearing a Flash Gordon suit, both fitting tributes.
And I like that the ship Luke uses here is the same one that Luke would later use in the daily comic strip
My biggest question though is why did Han choose to interview the spacers with out his shirt?
Overall, this was a really fun issue.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 17, 2015 3:12:42 GMT -5
Man, the coloring in that panel is fantastic, I love the way the yellow really sets the pilot stormtrooper apart from the back ground. Yeah, Marie Severin's colouring is very good in these Pizzazz strips. Last issue was particularly nice on the colouring front. It's just a shame that the artwork is so damned sloppy...and remember, the panels I'm posting here are the ones that I consider to be the best of each episode. The poorest are really quite shoddy. Hey now, Don-Wan Kihotay is fantastic! But I agree that the art here is a huge improvement over all the previous issues, Chewie looks perfect and the Bantha's are spot on, so I'm thinking Tom Palmer did a whole lot of embellishing here because if I hadn't read his name in there myself I wouldn't have thought Chaykin did the art here at all. Oh yeah, Tom Palmer definitely embellished a hell of a lot in these issues, and that's a really good thing! That said, the art here does seem to range from very nice to decidedly less so. There are still definitely elements of sloppiness in various panels from time to time and I get the impression that Palmer's work on this issue was done somewhat hurriedly. I love all the fun references here, not just Jaxxon and Kihotay, but that same bar scene with the pig faced girl friend seemed like a call out to the Muppets; the girlfriend didn't look much like Piggy but metal nosed boyfriend looked like Gonzo to me. I'd never thought of that myself, but you may well be right. But my favorites were the Buck Rogers cameo in that scene where Leia is saying goodbye to Luke, and that Serio was wearing a Flash Gordon suit, both fitting tributes. OK, this totally passed me by. I've long thought that the colourful red and gold uniform that the Rebel technician is wearing on the page where Luke and Leia say farewell suck out a mile. He's very conspicuous. I'm woefully unfamiliar with Buck Rogers (outside of the late 70s Buck Rogers in the 25th Century TV series), but quickly looking online for images of the comic strip, you're totally right. That's a definite and quite obvious tip of the hat to Buck Rogers. Also, I never put two and two together regarding the Flash Gordon star design on Serji-X's double breasted jacket, but you're almost certainly right that this is another tip of the hat. Cool! I learned something new about this issue. Thanks thwhtguardian! My biggest question though is why did Han choose to interview the spacers with out his shirt? I know. Weird, right? I almost put something in my review about this, but decided not to in the end. I guess beefcake sells comics.
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Post by badwolf on Jan 19, 2015 10:39:44 GMT -5
I like the way colorists would use a single wash to offset foreground characters, but I'm not liking the yellow, nor the hot pink background.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 19, 2015 11:47:17 GMT -5
I love all the fun references here, not just Jaxxon and Kihotay, but that same bar scene with the pig faced girl friend seemed like a call out to the Muppets; the girlfriend didn't look much like Piggy but metal nosed boyfriend looked like Gonzo to me. I'd never thought of that myself, but you may well be right. But my favorites were the Buck Rogers cameo in that scene where Leia is saying goodbye to Luke, and that Serio was wearing a Flash Gordon suit, both fitting tributes. OK, this totally passed me by. I've long thought that the colourful red and gold uniform that the Rebel technician is wearing on the page where Luke and Leia say farewell suck out a mile. He's very conspicuous. I'm woefully unfamiliar with Buck Rogers (outside of the late 70s Buck Rogers in the 25th Century TV series), but quickly looking online for images of the comic strip, you're totally right. That's a definite and quite obvious tip of the hat to Buck Rogers. Also, I never put two and two together regarding the Flash Gordon star design on Serji-X's double breasted jacket, but you're almost certainly right that this is another tip of the hat. Cool! I learned something new about this issue. Thanks thwhtguardian! My biggest question though is why did Han choose to interview the spacers with out his shirt? I know. Weird, right? I almost put something in my review about this, but decided not to in the end. I guess beefcake sells comics. I only picked up on the references on this reading myself so it was new for me too, and I never would have picked up on the Sergio one. I'm going to have to keep these little tid-bits in my noggin though, as I'd love to ask Howard Chaykin about these homages if I ever see him at a convention again.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 20, 2015 1:07:01 GMT -5
I like the way colorists would use a single wash to offset foreground characters, but I'm not liking the yellow, nor the hot pink background. I think Tom Palmer's colouring on issue #8 was really good. The bright backgrounds that he uses on occasion are very much in keeping with the "Technicolor" way that the likes of Marie Severin, Steve Leialoha, and Glynis Wein etc had coloured the main Star Wars comic. If anything though, Palmer's own colouring is a little bit more subtle and I kinda like that. I only picked up on the references on this reading myself so it was new for me too, and I never would have picked up on the Sergio one. I'm going to have to keep these little tid-bits in my noggin though, as I'd love to ask Howard Chaykin about these homages if I ever see him at a convention again. If, indeed, it was actually Howard Chaykin who added them. From what Roy Thomas has to say about these final Chaykin drawn issues and from what my own eyes tell me, Tom Palmer embellished the hell out of Chaykin's rough layouts. So, it's entirely possible that the artistic nods to Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon originated with him. EDIT: By the way, thwhtguardian, I've added a little bit about the Buck Rogers/Flash Gordon homages in my review of issue #8. So thanks for bringing that to my attention.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 20, 2015 6:16:57 GMT -5
Star Wars #9Cover dated: March 1978 Issue title: Showdown on a Wasteland World!Script: Roy Thomas Artwork: Howard Chaykin (pencils)/Tom Palmer (inks and embellishing) Colours: Tom Palmer Letters: John Costanza Cover art: Gil Kane (pencils)/Tony DeZuniga (inks) Overall rating: 7 out of 10 Plot summary: Han Solo, Chewbacca and their motley group of Star-Hoppers arrive at the village that they've been hired to protect, only to find it under attack from vicious, winged creatures named High-hounds. The Star-Hoppers manage to drive off the beasts and Han saves the life of a teenage girl named Merri during the battle. However, peace is short-lived and Serji-X Arrogantus and his gang of Cloud-Riders soon attack. The Star-Hoppers valiantly defend the village, but the droid FE-9Q is destroyed during the fray and Don-Wan Kihotay is also struck down. Meanwhile, Merri's grandfather, a shaman referred to as "The Old One", summons a large, mythical reptilian monster to drive off the attacking Cloud-Riders. Back on Yavin 4, Princess Leia receives a communication from Luke Skywalker, informing her and the Rebel Alliance that he's found a planet in the Drexel system that might be suitable for a new Rebel base. The transmission is terminated suddenly, with Luke clearly encountering some kind of trouble, and a worried Leia departs Yavin 4 to find Skywalker. Comments: This is another strong issue art-wise, with some lovely looking Tom Palmer inking over Howard Chaykin's pencils. Palmer has clearly done an awful lot of embellishing on this issue and his work is so confident and strong that it's actually kinda hard to see any of Chaykin's influence at all. Mind you, that's not necessarily a bad thing in my view; if you've been following these reviews, you'll have realised by now that I'm far from being a fan of Chaykin's work on this series. Actually, I've read that Alan Kupperberg was helping Chaykin out with some of the layouts in these issues from the end of his time on the series (Kupperberg will even get a credit next issue, which is also the final Chaykin one). Talking of Chaykin, there's a really bad looking Star Wars pin-up by him in this issue, that's even more scribbly and rushed-looking than his art for issue #1 was. However, having said all that, the sequential storytelling in this issue is as excellent as ever, and the "camera angles" and staging that Chaykin would've established in his layouts obviously plays a significant part in that. The big battle against Serji-X and the Cloud-Riders towards the end of the comic is excellent, with a number of fantastically rendered and nicely laid out action sequences; the best of which is probably the one in which FE-9Q brings down a skyspeeder and a furiously enraged Chewbacca bludgeons its rider to death. There's a real animalistic fury on the Wookiee's face in this sequence that I love. Palmer's colouring is very nice too in this issue, with his palette working well for the "western frontier town" style setting. I also really like his use of Zip-a-Tone shading, which we saw last issue, but which really gets used to great effect this month. Overall, the art is very pleasing here on all fronts and I'd have to say that this issue is probably a strong contender for best art in the series so far. The opening splash page of the Star-Hoppers of Aduba-3 astride their Banthas, on their way to the village, is particularly nice. Roy Thomas's script is as good as always, but there are a couple of plot points concerning Luke's discovery of the planet Drexel and the old shaman's summoning of the beast that I don't believe he's really thought through properly (I'll address these in a couple of paragraph's time). On the upside, I really like the way that Roy manages to give all of the Star-Hoppers a very distinct personality for the reader to latch on to, despite us only having met them last issue. The Star-Hoppers all give a good account of themselves in the battle sequences and there's a lot of action crammed into this issue, but the pacing never feels rushed at all. There's also an interesting burgeoning romance hinted at, with Jaxxon flirting with Amaiza, although she appears uninterested. Don-Wan Kihotay is still my least favourite of the Star-Hoppers and Thomas still has him talking in the parlance of a chivalrous knight from days of old. In fact, Palmer (or maybe Chaykin) even dresses the old codger up in a suit of futuristic looking space-armour here, just to ram home the idea that he's a Jedi "Knight". Roy's sub-plot concerning Luke Skywalker's search for a suitable location for a Rebel base is quite interesting and I have to say that I like the name Drexel for the planet that Luke finds; it really sounds like a Star Wars-y name to me. However, you have to wonder why Luke is bothering to report back to Rebel Alliance HQ about the planet before he's even been down to the surface to see if there are any threats – which, it turns out, there most definitely are! Another thing that doesn't quite add up is the fact that the old shaman of the village, who believes that he can summon a giant beast from the mountain side, has never thought to do so before now. I mean, we found out last issue that Serji-X Arrogantus and his Cloud-Riders attack the village at the same time every year, so clearly it's happened at least twice before, if not more times. So why didn't "The Old One" summon the beast the second time Serji-X attacked? Why wait until now to do it? It really makes no sense at all. In spite of those couple of head-scratching moments, with Luke and "The Old One", I think that this is one of the best issues of Marvel's Star Wars comic so far and certainly the best since the adaptation of the movie finished. The artwork is really nice and Roy Thomas does a bang up job on the plotting and scripting. Incidentally, this issue has special nostalgic significance for me because the very first Marvel Star Wars comic that I ever owned was Marvel UK's Star Wars Weekly #18, which reprinted the last half of this issue. I would've been 5 years old when my mother bought this issue for me... Continuity issues: - Don-Wan Kihotay's name is incorrectly spelled as Don-Wan Kioti in this issue.
Favourite panel: This one, of course... Favourite quote: "Fie upon you, foul feathery fiend. In the name of justice, let this planet be cleansed of such filth as you and your brethren." – Don-Wan Kihotay gives a High-hound what for in the old-school vernacular.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 21, 2015 3:58:51 GMT -5
Pizzazz #6Cover dated: March 1978 Issue title: Do You Know What Your Children Are? ( The Keeper's World, Part 6) Script: Roy Thomas Artwork: Howard Chaykin (pencils)/Tony DeZuniga (inks) Colours: Marie Severin Letters: Rick Parker Overall rating: ½ out of 10 Plot summary: Having vanished into thin air at the end of last issue, Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, C-3PO and R2-D2 reappear somewhere underground, while the Imperials who were pursuing them attempt to deduce where the Rebels have gone. Luke and the others barely have time to take in their new subterranean surroundings, when they are surprised by four children who each have powers related to the elements (one can control fire, one can conjure rain, one can will the earth to move, and one can control the air). The children explain that they hate the Empire, when suddenly the chasing Imperials materialise out of nowhere, having discovered the teleportation lever that transported the Rebels underground. Comments: Man, this instalment of The Keeper's World is bad. ...and I mean really bad. Howard Chaykin and Tony DeZuniga's artwork is even more rushed-looking and amateurishly rendered than it has been in earlier instalments – if that's possible! There are certain panels that I had to look at twice, just because I couldn't believe how badly drawn some parts of them were. It's enough to make the reader think that the artists aren't even really trying! As if that isn't bad enough, Roy Thomas's story hits a new low with the introduction of four leotard wearing, super-powered children, who look like refugees from some late '70s Saturday morning kid's cartoon. Add to that some unintentionally hilarious dialogue and what you have here is some baaaaad comics. Continuity issues: None Favourite panel: Favourite quote: "Master Luke...I do so hate always being the barer of bad tidings, but I'm afraid we have unwelcome visitors." – C-3PO attempts to warn Luke that a squad of Imperials have just materialised nearby.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 21, 2015 19:00:49 GMT -5
Wait, Asimov? What the heck is an Asimov story doing in this magazine... what was it?
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Post by Confessor on Jan 22, 2015 3:07:58 GMT -5
Wait, Asimov? What the heck is an Asimov story doing in this magazine... what was it? No idea, I'm afraid wildfire2099. I'm reading these Pizzazz strips in the Star Wars #0 reprint one-shot that Dark Horse put out in the late 1990s.
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