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Post by foxley on Dec 25, 2014 6:48:10 GMT -5
S.H.I.E.L.D.
Supposedly the acronym originally stood for Supreme Headquarters International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division. That implies that Supreme Headquarters International Espionage had other divisions. What were they and why did we never hear anything about them?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 7:52:14 GMT -5
I don't have a lot of faith in Marvel to tell a good story about that. Being mutants is as important for Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, as it is for the X-Men. Quicksilver always talked up mutantkind and Scarlet Witch always wondered about her place as a mutant in homo sapiens' world. But I'm sure it'll fine. Well, yes, I guess if we are being THAT technical, but I meant as infants. She was handed their care by their mother. That's not raising! Why would anyone think that? Why? Maybe because Marvel has made it a habit of changing Pietro's and Wanda's origins so damn much that people will probably forget that they are now Inhumans before they are actually even written that way. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 25, 2014 8:31:56 GMT -5
S.H.I.E.L.D. Supposedly the acronym originally stood for Supreme Headquarters International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division. That implies that Supreme Headquarters International Espionage had other divisions. What were they and why did we never hear anything about them? Yes!!! I always thought SHIELD should've simply been a codename describing its essential function rather than an acronym (though the acronum was inevitable, I suppose, given the era). Cei-U! I second-guess Stan Lee! |
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Post by gothos on Dec 25, 2014 14:50:52 GMT -5
S.H.I.E.L.D. Supposedly the acronym originally stood for Supreme Headquarters International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division. That implies that Supreme Headquarters International Espionage had other divisions. What were they and why did we never hear anything about them? We didn't hear about them because their names didn't make good acronyms. There was almost certainly a research division, but 'SHIERD' doesn't add up to much of anything. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 17:43:52 GMT -5
(EDIT: I agree with the hulk fans who say the Omen story is a candidate for best Hulk story ever. I loved those Englehart/Trimpe Hulk stories. That one was republished in big hardcover British annual with thick paper... just superb.) I've still got that annual! Not immediately physically accessible to check the contents, but I think it's in this one:  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 17:47:19 GMT -5
Yes!!! I always thought SHIELD should've simply been a codename describing its essential function rather than an acronym (though the acronum was inevitable, I suppose, given the era). Cei-U! I second-guess Stan Lee! I liked the exchange in the Agents of Shield TV pilot: Agent Hill: What does S.H.I.E.L.D. stand for, Agent Ward?Grant: Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division. Agent Hill: And what does that mean to you?Grant: It means someone really wanted our initials to spell out S.H.I.E.L.D. |
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Post by tolworthy on Dec 26, 2014 2:31:59 GMT -5
(EDIT: I agree with the hulk fans who say the Omen story is a candidate for best Hulk story ever. I loved those Englehart/Trimpe Hulk stories. That one was republished in big hardcover British annual with thick paper... just superb.) I've still got that annual! Not immediately accessible, but I think it's this one:  I envy you. Didn't the year before or after reprint the Zaxx story? Such a great run. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2014 3:46:43 GMT -5
It certainly did - not sure which one, probably the 76 annual. I'll get them out and have a look when I have a chance I was looking for something along the same lines as an Xmas present for my grandson this year - nothing available  Nearest I could get was this:   It seems a nice enough book, but it's soft cover, and doesn't have the pleasing heft and durability of those old hard-cover annuals. I can't imagine that still being in near-pristine condition in 40 years time.... EDIT: Turns out that Zzaxx story is in the same '75 annual as those Captain Omen stories. The '76 annual has 3 stories of the original Defenders |
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Post by berkley on Dec 27, 2014 0:31:04 GMT -5
S.H.I.E.L.D. Supposedly the acronym originally stood for Supreme Headquarters International Espionage, Law-Enforcement Division. That implies that Supreme Headquarters International Espionage had other divisions. What were they and why did we never hear anything about them? Yes!!! I always thought SHIELD should've simply been a codename describing its essential function rather than an acronym (though the acronum was inevitable, I suppose, given the era). Cei-U! I second-guess Stan Lee! Haven't they come up with another agency called SWORD now? No idea what the acronym is supposed to stand for. Sounded like a dumb idea to me. Like if the Man from UNCLE writers decided there should be another agency called AUNT (maybe they did, for all I know). Marvel might as well keep going and add SCABBARD, HELMET, SPEAR, GREAVES, and BREASTPLATE. Though it might be fun to see the mental contortions they'd go through to figure out what some of them supposedly stood for. AIM was a good one though: "Advanced Idea Mechanics". Way catchier than DARPA. |
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Post by coveredinbees on Dec 27, 2014 2:25:02 GMT -5
Sentient World Observation and Response Department
They had H.A.M.M.E.R., too. I don't think they ever came up with words for it. I always like to read the characters as spelling out the letters.
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 27, 2014 9:14:56 GMT -5
I came up with a different version of SWORD for an Avengers mini-series proposal I concocted nearly twenty years ago (well, truthfully, my sister figured it out after I explained what I was trying for): Superhuman Worldwide Observation, Registration and Disposition. I realize grammatically, the first two words should be reversed but, well, you know...
Cei-U!
I summon his terrible swift wsord!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 27, 2014 10:32:04 GMT -5
The thing about SHIELD that I find a bit bothersome is that nowadays it's described as a United Nations operation. I find it extremely hard to believe that most nations would allow such an outfit to operate on their soil. I prefered the days where SHIELD was essentially an advanced American spy agency, or at most some kind of NATO-derived department.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 27, 2014 10:34:05 GMT -5
I summon his terrible swift wsord! Oh, no worries... I'm sure many people would pronounce the acronym to the Worldwide Human Inspection Project "Hwip". |
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Post by Randle-El on Dec 27, 2014 12:30:26 GMT -5
Here's one that I've always wondered about -- Why is Silver Age Superman so fat?  |
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Post by crazyoldhermit on Dec 27, 2014 14:16:28 GMT -5
He wasn't fat, he was just barrel chested. Large ribcage and a big strong pelvis with a lot of muscle packed on. Same sorta thing as the Iron Sheik:  Looks kinda flabby but the strength in his core was massive. I prefer that look for Supes over the typical small pelvis'd bodybuilder look. I like it when Superman looks like a big burly farmer who wakes up and loads a half dozen eggs, a slab of bacon and a stick of butter into a big 14" cast iron skillet, then dumps the whole thing on a thick stack of high protein wheat cakes. |
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Nearest I could get was this:
