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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 15, 2024 4:19:13 GMT -5
Every family has one: that older relative who makes all the kids cringe when he/she tries to show how “hip” they are. (I may actually be that relative in my family, alas.) Today's selection is the comic book equivalent: 10. Bob Haney's Teen Titans (DC, 1964-69)
For two issues of The Brave and the Bold, one of Showcase, and the first 24 of their own book, Haney and his collaborators created a surreal world of off-beat nemeses, nonsensical plotlines, and hilariously tone-deaf dialogue. It's all quite cringey, and I f'ing love it. Looking back from six decades, it's hard to believe that the era's readers actually liked this stuff... and maybe ultimately they didn't, given the reworking of Teen Titans by new editor Dick Giordano and new scripter Robert Kanigher to bring it in line with DC's new “relevancy” paradigm. Heney would return to the title later but this was the more serious Bronze Age Bob and, for better or worse (mostly better), it wasn't the same. Cei-U! I summon the pubescent paragons!
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Post by foxley on Dec 15, 2024 4:52:08 GMT -5
10. SamureeYes, it's a Continuity tittle and that's probably all I need to say to justify it as a guilty pleasure. But to give a little more explanation, I think the reason this book has a hold on me is that appeals to the hunting instinct that lurks in all collectors. I first picked up an issue on a whim and was intrigued enough to seek out more. But due to Continuity's erratic schedules and spotty distribution, actually finding them became a challenge and I felt a surge of triumph each time I found one. Even now I don't think I have a full run. And then there is the art. While I would be the first to admit that it leans heavily to T&A (not that is necessarily a bad thing), Samuree was Ed Benes' first professional work. He has gone on to great things and--even then--his artwork was rocking.
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Post by driver1980 on Dec 15, 2024 4:53:22 GMT -5
10. Police Academy The Comic Book (Marvel Comics, 1989-90)I like the Police Academy films (except for the fourth and seventh ones, which are awful). Then came the 1988 cartoon, which ran for one season - and, quite honestly, wasn’t very good, mainly because the characters bore little, if any, resemblance to the film characters; for instance, the film version of Lt/Capt/Commandant Mauser is a harsh, scheming, sycophantic bureaucrat interested only in his next promotion, whereas in the cartoon, he’s called something different - and is in charge of the K-9 Corps. Go figure. If not for the name of the show, and the character names, you might not know the cartoon is related to the films. So, if I didn’t really enjoy the cartoon based on the films, why on earth would I enjoy a comic based on the cartoon that was itself adapted from the films? The answer is simple: it’s silly and enjoyable. I thought the artists captured things perfectly (I’m not sure how easy it is to do likenesses of TV cartoon characters, but they did it so well). I mean, it’s hard not to enjoy it. With story names like “Phantom of the Operating Room” and quirky villain names that would have made even the likes of Masters of the Universe cringe, how could I not make a case for this? Note: it ran for six issues, which means it hardly outstayed its welcome.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 15, 2024 6:07:10 GMT -5
10. Sachs and Violens (written by Peter David, art by George Perez; originally published as a four-issue mini-series by Marvel/Epic, 1993/94)
( cover to the later collected edition) You’d think a comic done by fan-favorite creators Peter David and George Perez would not appear on anyone’s guilty pleasure list – which would seem to imply it’s not very good – but despite the absolutely lovely art, it’s quite frankly a pretty by the numbers action story. First, a brief set-up for those who may not be familiar: Sachs & Violens was originally published under Marvel’s Epic imprint as part of the Heavy Hitters line from the early 1990s, which showcased adult-oriented material from fan-favorite creators. The main characters are Juanita Jean ‘J.J.’ Sachs, a model for girly magazines, lingerie catalogs or whatnot, and Ernie ‘Violens’ Schultz, a Vietnam vet dealing with a pretty severe case of PTSD who now works as a photographer (often snapping photos of J.J., for whom he also pines). The ball gets rolling when one of J.J.’s model friends is killed by a shady crew that produces snuff photography, so – because she’s a former army brat so she’s naturally skilled in hand-to-hand combat among other things – she puts on a sexy black leather outfit to take the bad guys down (as one does). Once Ernie gets wind of her plans, he starts shadowing her to, initially, stop her from getting into trouble but then joins in on her vendetta. ( J.J. in action; don't know why that bit of dialogue is obscured, must of been a little bit of dust on the scanner - she's just calling the bad guy a sack of snot ) Even though David & Perez tried to incorporate some grim and serious ‘real world’ issues like the dark side of the porn industry and also child abduction and trafficking, this never rises above the level of a gratuitously violent revenge story with a lot of cheesecake thrown in for good measure (including nudity, since this is an ‘adults only’ comic). But that’s just what makes it a guilty pleasure for me, since I’ve gone back and re-read it twice: you have some really sleazy bad guys get what’s coming to them in a very violent and satisfying way, plus a sexy, badass leather-clad hereoine administering many of the beatdowns. It’s surprising that nobody, to my knowledge anyway, made a movie out of this (and if it had been made any time in the late 1990s through early 2000s, Salma Hayek would have been a pretty good choice to play Sachs).
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 15, 2024 7:13:49 GMT -5
10. Psychoanalysis #1-4 (EC) EC’s “New Direction” titles were a flop, but there were some well-respected titles among their attempts to find genres that could capture some of the EC magic in territory safer from the censorious forces stirred up by Dr. Wertham: Impact ran one of the most highly regarded stories in American comics history, Valor presented some of the best in historical adventure comics, Piracy produced some glorious covers and satisfying yarns. But one genre that’s had a poor track record in American comics is medical comics, and EC tried two approaches on the idea in 1955. M.D. was lackluster, but the art of Graham Ingels and Reed Crandall elevated every issue, with competent support from Joe Orlando and George Evans also contributing. But Psychoanalysis? That one still has comics fans scratching their heads. The premise: each issue would feature three patients discussing their problems with the unnamed Psychiatrist. Each issue would contain one session for each patient, until they were cured, at which point another patient’s treatment would begin. The first three patients are Freddy Carter, Ellen Lyman, and Mark Stone. Ellen completes her therapy in issue 3, and Freddy and Mark have their final sessions in issue 4, with Mark getting two sessions that issue. The plan was that a new patient would be introduced, with Mark’s therapy completed in issue 5, but looming cancellation (or, perhaps, a looming malpractice trial?) dictated that the Psychiatrist hastily close up the shop, depriving readers of a regular influx of new patients. The stories were all written by Dan Keyes, who has a very few writing credits according to the GCD. He did a couple of Atlas horror stories, PSYCHOANALYSIS, and several stories in EC's Picto-Fiction magazines. Was he someone familiar with psychoanalysis who pitched the concept to a desperate EC Comics? Or was he a utility commercial writer who did some research to inform his work? The supplemental material in my hardcover collection doesn't address the writer, and I suppose the development process behind this baffling choice will forever remain a mystery. The art is all by Jack Kamen, who I’ve seen described as “everyone’s least favorite favorite EC artist”. Most will admit that he was good at drawing pretty girls and at conveying emotional conflict, well-heeled seediness, "character actors", and conventional, ordinary settings like offices and home interiors. For a comic like this one, he was the perfect choice from the EC stable, but it really is anomalous to EC's usual approach of providing artistic variety in every issue. If you didn't like Kamen's art, you weren't going to like any of the art. But lack of artistic variety is a minor issue. The main problem with the series is that it is so static and wordy. Virtually everything is a conversation between the patient and the Psychiatrist, and all the action is indirect: characters relating what happened rather than the story depicting it. Psychoanalysis is, to most readers, a tedious slog. And as you might guess, psychoanalysis is depicted here in a ridiculously simplified and inauthentic manner. If only mental health problems could be “cured” after three or four sessions with a doctor! Surely most readers would rank this at the bottom of EC's mature output. And some would probably rank it below their much cruder, early series like MOON GIRL AND THE PRINCE or SADDLE JUSTICE. But I’m not most readers. For one thing, Kamen is probably my favorite favorite EC artist. For another, I delight in indirect storytelling; one of my favorite authors is the notorious Harry Stephen Keeler (I’ve transcribed one of his novels that went unpublished in his lifetime for print in the current era: Strange Journey, a science fiction story in which the main character travels into the future where he proceeds to…stay in his hotel room and talk to people on the phone—and one or two personal visitors--for the duration of the novel!). I’m fascinated by niche genres of all types, in all art forms, and this seems to be the only example of an American comic book series devoted to psychoanalysis. I couldn’t resist the opportunity to buy a hardcover collection of this quirky oddball series back when Russ Cochran had run out of the popular EC comics to reprint. And I just love it! Guilt Factors: Tedium, Inaction, Loquaciousness, Commercial Failure, False Promises, Malpractice
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Post by commond on Dec 15, 2024 7:24:21 GMT -5
10. Todd McFarlane's Amazing Spider-Man Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man was the first Spider-Man I was introduced to, and I still think it's an awesome design. I love the huge eyes, the spaghetti webbing, and Todd throwing out his anatomy book (assuming he ever owned one.) The contrarian in me loves that Todd rips off more revered artists like Mike Plogg and Michael Golden while pissing off the Ditko & Romita fanboys. If I were drunk, I might even argue it was the best version of Spidey since Ditko. I loved how Pete and Mary Jane became more cartoonish with every issue and how McFarlane would draw a million lines whenever he drew someone's face. These things were hard to find when I was a kid. The back issues were EXPENSIVE. I had to get copies of this run whenever I could and in whatever condition I could find, and I still had holes in my run. I have a couple of caveats for this guilty pleasure, though -- I never bought or read Todd's adjectiveless Spider-Man. I'm not sure why I didn't buy it. IIRC, the first issue was difficult to get and they cost more than regular comics. I was also quite loyal to the Amazing Spider-Man book and continued to buy it when Larsen took over instead of flocking to Todd's book. The other caveat is related to the first in that I'm only interested in Todd stories written by David Michelinie. Michelinie wasn't the greatest comic book writer that ever lived, but he was pro and knew how to knock out a book. Todd McFarlane (by his own account) was not a writer. If he hadn't gotten it in his head to be the next Frank Miller, we might have gotten a few more solid runs out of the Toddster with different Bullpen writers, but then Todd wouldn't have become so rich. For what it's worth, I would much rather read Michelinie and McFarlane than Todd written by Frank Miller, Alan Moore or Neil Gaiman. That's like watching the Dirty Dozen directed by Fellini. I should probably include Spawn on my guilty pleasure list since I bought the thing for far too long, but I don't have any pleasurable memories of it. I did really enjoy these Spider-Man comics.
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Post by commond on Dec 15, 2024 7:26:04 GMT -5
10. Sachs and Violens (written by Peter David, art by George Perez; originally published as a four-issue mini-series by Marvel/Epic, 1993/94) I really dislike this book. Nice choice!
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Post by shaxper on Dec 15, 2024 7:26:08 GMT -5
10. The TRS-80/Tandy Computer Whiz Kids (1981-1990, DC/Archie Comics)Writers: Cary Bates, Paul Kupperberg, William M. Palmer, Michael Pellowski, Fred Brussow Art: Curt Swan, Dick Ayers, Carmine Infantino, Howard Bender, Stan Goldeberg A true symphony of awfulness! On the one hand, you've got some of the best scribes and artists in the biz forced to churn out an embarrassing and necessarily stilted promotional piece in which two bland and inoffensive kids get into danger (but never too much danger) and manage to save the day with the (insert expensive computer name here) after the necessary two pages of showcasing everything the (insert expensive computer name here) can do before introducing the obligatory conflict. It's so bad it's superb. On the other, this is a great historical artifact for geeks like me that find it fascinating to see these now ancient machines I grew up with, advertised in great detail: Some of the better issues even show the backs of the computers and review what all the ports are for, or explain how peripheries like a 300 baud modem work. It's an odd but exciting sensation to relive all of this with such enthsiasm, optimism, and nostalgia for these minor computing miracles. Okay, okay, this is not something that is going to sound fun to most of you, and that's a big part of why it's a guilty pleasure.
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Post by driver1980 on Dec 15, 2024 7:28:42 GMT -5
10. The TRS-80/Tandy Computer Whiz Kids (1981-1990, DC/Archie Comics)Writers: Cary Bates, Paul Kupperberg, William M. Palmer, Michael Pellowski, Fred Brussow Art: Curt Swan, Dick Ayers, Carmine Infantino, Howard Bender, Stan Goldeberg It’s interesting to me because I just don’t recall many of those kinds of things ending up in newsagents over here.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 15, 2024 7:30:48 GMT -5
10. The TRS-80/Tandy Computer Whiz Kids (1981-1990, DC/Archie Comics)Writers: Cary Bates, Paul Kupperberg, William M. Palmer, Michael Pellowski, Fred Brussow Art: Curt Swan, Dick Ayers, Carmine Infantino, Howard Bender, Stan Goldeberg It’s interesting to me because I just don’t recall many of those kinds of things ending up in newsagents over here. I have no idea how they were distributed, but I'm betting it wasn't through the comic racks. Maybe they were given away at Radio Shack?
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Post by shaxper on Dec 15, 2024 7:32:01 GMT -5
10. Bob Haney's Teen Titans (DC, 1964-69)
Oh, you KNOW this isn't the last you'll be seeing of that series in this event...
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Post by driver1980 on Dec 15, 2024 7:32:17 GMT -5
10. Todd McFarlane's Amazing Spider-Man Good to see that included. I did like the webbing, too. Also, I like how he drew the Lizard.
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Post by driver1980 on Dec 15, 2024 7:34:04 GMT -5
10. Psychoanalysis #1-4 (EC) But lack of artistic variety is a minor issue. The main problem with the series is that it is so static and wordy. Virtually everything is a conversation between the patient and the Psychiatrist, and all the action is indirect: characters relating what happened rather than the story depicting it. Psychoanalysis is, to most readers, a tedious slog. And as you might guess, psychoanalysis is depicted here in a ridiculously simplified and inauthentic manner. If only mental health problems could be “cured” after three or four sessions with a doctor! Interesting choice (first I’ve heard of this). It doesn’t sound riveting or even attractive, and I can’t honestly say I’d buy it if I saw it cheap at a car boot sale, but it’s certainly interesting to read about such an esoteric-sounding premise.
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Post by MWGallaher on Dec 15, 2024 7:35:52 GMT -5
Shanna's born for a career in training: she can speak parentheses and vocally "box in" the word enter.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 15, 2024 7:37:29 GMT -5
Shanna's born for a career in training: she can speak parentheses and vocally "box in" the word enter. She's a small wonder.
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