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Post by rich on Nov 7, 2024 5:49:07 GMT -5
Is anyone here actually on board with the concept of renumbering ongoing series on an annual or bi-annual basis?
Will this embarrassing trend ever cease? Will the stupidity end before monthly comics themselves vanish forever?
How did we end up in a world where Spawn has had a longer unbroken run than Action Comics, Detective Comics, Amazing Spiderman or Fantastic Four? I enjoyed Todd McFarlane's comments on the topic at 14:18 here:
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Nov 7, 2024 6:09:02 GMT -5
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Post by riv86672 on Nov 7, 2024 6:09:02 GMT -5
^^^Ha, nice.
I don’t agree w. McFarlane on a lot of subjects but I do this one.
I’ve gone on rants about the renumbering trend at different sites, and I’m not gonna do that here, but yeah I’m not a fan.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 7, 2024 6:30:58 GMT -5
Is anyone here actually on board with the concept of renumbering ongoing series on an annual or bi-annual basis? Will this embarrassing trend ever cease? Will the stupidity end before monthly comics themselves vanish forever? How did we end up in a world where Spawn has had a longer unbroken run than Action Comics, Detective Comics, Amazing Spiderman or Fantastic Four? I enjoyed Todd McFarlane's comments on the topic at 14:18 here: I haven't bought new comics since 2001, but renumbering goes directly against one thing that got me into American comics in the first place: a sense of history, of following one long, uninterrupted story. We didn't have that in European comics, where each book was usually its own thing and series could easily be read out of order. |
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Post by rich on Nov 7, 2024 7:27:40 GMT -5
I haven't bought new comics since 2001, but renumbering goes directly against one thing that got me into American comics in the first place: a sense of history, of following one long, uninterrupted story. We didn't have that in European comics, where each book was usually its own thing and series could easily be read out of order. Snap! That was also the year I quit buying monthly comics (or indeed any new comics from comic stores), I miss the sense of history, and I also preferred the long running continuity compared to our comics here in Europe. |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Nov 7, 2024 7:47:12 GMT -5
I'll say what I said when this topic came up on some other thread here a few years ago: my reasons for not liking the renumbering of long-running series (esp., but not limited to, those published by the the big two) has little or nothing to do with nostalgia or concerns about continuity or whatever and pretty much everything to do with the fact that under the old/original numbering, I can always chronologically fix them. E.g., if someone says 'Avengers #356' or 'Action Comics #782', even if it's "after my time" I can still do a little math in my head and know roughly when it was published, what era of the series we're talking about, etc. However, "Avengers v3, #46" means nothing to me and I have to go look it up.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Nov 7, 2024 7:54:56 GMT -5
(...) We didn't have that in European comics, where each book was usually its own thing and series could easily be read out of order. Have to disagree with this somewhat - in Italy at least, there are comics series that have consecutive (now quite high) numbering and even some (although not quite as rigid) continuity like the long-running American series. I'm thinking of any number of popular Bonelli comics, like Tex, Zagor, Nathan Never or Dylan Dog, as well as Alan Ford and related titles from the Max Bunker Press. |
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Nov 7, 2024 7:56:58 GMT -5
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Post by rich on Nov 7, 2024 7:56:58 GMT -5
The apparent mass idiocy at Marvel and DC is alarming. Maybe it's one or two high powered buffoons making this decision, and the rest just have to suffer it? Who knows. It seems a better way to shed readers, after a 1-3 issue bounce. They realised that in the 90s!
A cursory Google suggests no benefits and I can't see any pros speaking up in favour of it... 👀
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Post by Calidore on Nov 7, 2024 9:15:42 GMT -5
I guess I'm an outlier, but I like creative runs/over-arcs being packaged in their own "volumes", like TV seasons. If I want to reread Walt Simonson's Thor, I have to remember or look up which #3xx issues he starts and ends with. Mark Waid's Daredevil? Vols. 4 & 5, easy.
I understand the consecutive numbering thing, and that can always be done in the indicia, like Nexus did back in the day when it went to series of miniseries.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Nov 7, 2024 9:46:40 GMT -5
I like what Dark Horse did with the Aliens franchise. They had story arcs numbered on their own. Aliens: Genocide #1-4 then Aliens: Earth Wars #1-4 but still maintained an on-going continuity. Each story in publication either built on the on-going continuity or were just out-liner stories than we fun to read. They even maintained that through the novels that were written in the same Aliens universe. I don't know how Marvel is handling the Aliens franchise but I really liked the way Dark Horse did it. It meant you could jump in anywhere, still be entertained without "needing" to know the history of the whole franchise.
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