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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 8, 2017 13:54:56 GMT -5
I am talking about society in general. We live in an age where people commit crimes and post It on fb. Where a suicide victims family is insulted on social media. Boundaries and restraint have gone the way of the do do bird.
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Post by The Cheat on Dec 8, 2017 15:55:06 GMT -5
I am talking about society in general. We live in an age where people commit crimes and post It on fb. Where a suicide victims family is insulted on social media. Boundaries and restraint have gone the way of the do do bird. Meh, it's the same as it always was, it's just you're exposed to it more now.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 8, 2017 20:17:08 GMT -5
I am talking about society in general. We live in an age where people commit crimes and post It on fb. Where a suicide victims family is insulted on social media. Boundaries and restraint have gone the way of the do do bird. I don't think it's different, just the medium is. I'm sure rich privilged a-holes have been abusing their power since time immemorial.. the venue they brag about it to their peers has just changed. It used to be the manor library, then the 'gentleman's club', the the basement bar, now it's social media.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 9, 2017 8:56:03 GMT -5
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Post by String on Dec 9, 2017 11:32:13 GMT -5
Usagi Yojimbo was originally conceived of with a definite ending as well, but Stan Sakai has since changed his mind as the character and scope of the series have evolved. Changed his mind in what fashion? Having a definite ending? You could still have a definite ending in mind yet leave the series open-ended however long you wish and thus enact that ending whenever you feel the timing is right and/or necessary.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 9, 2017 11:37:55 GMT -5
Usagi Yojimbo was originally conceived of with a definite ending as well, but Stan Sakai has since changed his mind as the character and scope of the series have evolved. Changed his mind in what fashion? Having a definite ending? You could still have a definite ending in mind yet leave the series open-ended however long you wish and thus enact that ending whenever you feel the timing is right and/or necessary. Usagi was supposed to die (I believe) fighting Lord Hikiji, but Hikiji stopped being the focus of the series a long long time ago, and we've since explicitly been told that Usagi has no interest in revenge.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 10, 2017 7:43:53 GMT -5
Some of the best series I can think of had a definite endings. Blakes 7, Hitman the comic, Combat Kelly being a few examples.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 10, 2017 22:30:16 GMT -5
Some of the best series I can think of had a definite endings. Blakes 7, Hitman the comic, Combat Kelly being a few examples. I agree... having a progression definitely adds greatly to the story. They do alot better job of that with Manga than American comics. That said, some things really work as ongoing episodic stories, and Usagi is certainly one of them. Usagi has developed as a character over time, but the story don't have a tangle of continuity behind them like some do.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 10, 2017 22:39:10 GMT -5
Usagi has developed as a character over time, but the story don't have a tangle of continuity behind them like some do. I disagree. There's A LOT of continuity in Usagi, but it isn't abundantly evident because Sakai tries to keep each issue accessible to new readers. Still, there are often references that go back years, and plot points dropped in anticipation of far future storylines. Take, for example, "Tomoe's Story," written in 1991, and intended to take place at a future date when Usagi would be back in the Geishu Province. When Usagi finally got there FIFTEEN years later, Stan Sakai made sure the story (and several others published in the same 1991 special) blended seamlessly with that continuity.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 10, 2017 22:47:35 GMT -5
Sure, that's true, but that's the exception I think, more than the norm. It's not anything like most Superhero properties, that's for sure. Stuff like that is the good use of continuity, where it adds to the story if you know it, but doesn't make the story bad if you don't.. or worse, when they 'ruin' an old story in the service of a new one.
I've always thought Usagi felt more like Manga than American comics in that sense.
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Post by Jeddak on May 8, 2023 18:47:31 GMT -5
On a related note, Knights of the Dinner Table used this cover a couple of months back Jolly R. Blackburn has been writing and drawing the Knights strip since 1990. And he's proud to be closing in on the 300 issue mark. Granted, the series started as a one-page or one-panel strip in D&D related magazines. Granted, the book morphed into a role-playing mag itself a few years back, but still has 20+ pages of the Knights in every issue. And granted, I'm not putting Blackburn in the same class, artistically, as Sim or Sakai. But it's an achievement worth noting. Reviving this thread again to celebrate the fact that KoDT has passed the 300 issue mark. They originally wanted to do four covers to build up to the milestone. 225 is above. Then there was 250. Then 275 has the gang closing in on their quarry But they decided to do a group shot of the book's many characters for 300 itself, so the last cover they'd planned got pushed back to 301. But since the main characters tend more to the murder hobo type of player, a more confrontational cover was chosen instead (also homaging Cerebus 1) with the original finale to the series pushed back to 302 Cool stuff, eh?
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