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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 6, 2014 18:22:27 GMT -5
As the poll describes, which character/title would you vote as being consistently strong throughout the 70's.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 18:27:23 GMT -5
Picked Spidey...no contest among the others but I'm blatantly biased, and Claremont's X-Men didn't start till 1975-6 thereabouts so....
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 6, 2014 18:32:25 GMT -5
I agree with Jez: X-men came late to that particular party. But even without taking that into consideration, it was no contest for me: that decade is clearly Conan's. That mag was unlike any of the others, and it was a huge success for Marvel. The twenty-four first issues keep being reprinted in ever more lavish formats, and I'm sure that'll still be the case one or two more generations down the line.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 6, 2014 18:40:52 GMT -5
Tomb of Dracula beyond the first 8 issues or so was never less than excellent.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jul 6, 2014 18:46:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't have thought of either Conan the Barbarian or Tomb of Dracula as a super-hero title if they hadn't already been options. Since they were, I voted for Conan. Had they not been, I would've selected the Defenders.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 6, 2014 18:57:25 GMT -5
Has to be Avengers. Not really close in my opinion, though I have not yet read Invaders. I don't really consider ToD or Conan to be superhero books, and in my personal opinion, none of the other Marvel superhero titles from the 70's can hold a candle to Avengers. Spidey did have some good stuff, but it wasn't consistent for me - the last few years of the decade were pretty mediocre. Defenders, well, I've never been a Gerber guy, so that pretty much sums it up. The rest are just okay with a few highlights here and there.
If anyone votes for Champions, I would really like to hear their rationale.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 6, 2014 19:04:05 GMT -5
No X-Men?
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Post by shaxper on Jul 6, 2014 19:04:49 GMT -5
If anyone votes for Champions, I would really like to hear their rationale. I don't usually LoL, but this statement warrants it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 20:15:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't call Conan a super-hero title so I am not voting for it though if you simply said best Marvel book of the 70's I might.
For me it is a neck and neck race between one title on the list and one that is not...Avengers and Dr. Strange. But Doc had a few more missteps and abrupt creative team changes even though it was bi-monthly for most of it, so I am going with Avengers....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 20:30:09 GMT -5
I definitely wouldn't consider Conan a superhero series, even if it was a muscleman comic done in the house style. It didn't have enough superhero tropes for me.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 6, 2014 20:43:34 GMT -5
The question is somewhat deceptive. Looking at it from a pure superhero persepective, it's easily The Avengers, which had been on a ridiculous run since the "Kree-Skrull War" at the end of the '60s.
However, the inclusion of both Conan and Tomb of Dracula skews the list. Between two comics, Conan is the best continously published Marvel comic by a wide magin, especially when you factor in the Savage Sword material. It's by no means a superhero comic, though. Likewise, ToD is incredible strong, but you have to factor in its last third, which is Wolfman at his most self-indulgent. (I will maintain that ToD is more superhero than horror book. Conan doesn't have that luxury.) I can't rightly say that it's better than Avengers in that regard.
The Marvel franchise that's missing, in my opinion, is Dr Strange. You begin the decade with the incredibly strong Marvel Premiere run which introduced the team of Englehart and Brunner to the world and end in the middle of a very strong Roger Stern run. Other than a few weak Claremont issues in the middle, Doc had a ridiculous run in the '70s. |
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 6, 2014 20:46:23 GMT -5
I wouldn't call Conan a super-hero title so I am not voting for it though if you simply said best Marvel book of the 70's I might. For me it is a neck and neck race between one title on the list and one that is not...Avengers and Dr. Strange. But Doc had a few more missteps and abrupt creative team changes even though it was bi-monthly for most of it, so I am going with Avengers.... -M I didn't read the thread before my first post, but I'm glad that someone is reinforcing my thinking. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 6, 2014 20:52:44 GMT -5
The Avengers. Those dates go from issues 74 to 193. Awesome run for the assemblers. But I have to say that Conan had Big John Buscema doing the art almost the whole way, which was impressive.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 6, 2014 20:53:45 GMT -5
Well, the first Stern run on Dr. Strange was not as good as the second Stern run, which came after the 70's were over. The storylines after Englehart's departure kind of never went anywhere - if I am recalling correctly, there's a long storyline in the #20's that fizzles out at the end, and then some meandering in the #30's with Stern's short tenure also fizzling thanks to Claremont taking over. The last issue of the decade was #38, right in the midst of the Claremont tedium. So even if Dr. Strange were on the list, for me it wouldn't make it, as I think #20-50 or so of that series were mediocre and directionless as a whole.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 6, 2014 21:10:15 GMT -5
Well, the first Stern run on Dr. Strange was not as good as the second Stern run, which came after the 70's were over. The storylines after Englehart's departure kind of never went anywhere - if I am recalling correctly, there's a long storyline in the #20's that fizzles out at the end, and then some meandering in the #30's with Stern's short tenure also fizzling thanks to Claremont taking over. The last issue of the decade was #38, right in the midst of the Claremont tedium. So even if Dr. Strange were on the list, for me it wouldn't make it, as I think #20-50 or so of that series were mediocre and directionless as a whole. I had kinda forgotten that Doctor Strange was bi-monthly in the '70s. I totally agree that the title went south after Englehart bailed-- the latter chapters of the "Steygro" saga are awful, despite solid talent like Jim Starlin and Marv Wolfman. (Although P Craig Russell's annual, later redone as What is it that Disturbs You, Steven? is brilliant.) I thought the Stern/Golden/Smith/Green run was at the end of the '70s.
So, in other words, Avengers for superheroes, Conan overall.
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