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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 1, 2015 16:29:37 GMT -5
When I talk Captain Marvel, I strictly refer to Marvel's version. Apologies for not clarifying. DC's Captain Marvel or Shazam or whatever does not appeal to me at all. Never has, doubt it ever will. Original means original, though. And in terms of importance to the comic medium the Silver Age Marvel guy (created only to secure a trademark) ranks about a "3" while the guy who anchored the (if I remember right) three best selling superhero comics of all time and changed superhero storytelling forever*, and scores right aroung a "9." Although by far the Strongest of the real Captain Marvel stuff was in the '40s and '50s, and it's never been reprinted in any sort of organized manor beyond the first year or two. Hell, even the "SPLIT!" guy was created by Carl Burgos, so he's got a pedigree, too. * Like a lot of the humor in the Avengers movie can be traced directly back to the original Captain Marvel.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Sept 1, 2015 19:26:16 GMT -5
Ya Marvel's original Captain Marvel. Hence why I clarified. And I feel he was very important to Marvel. He paved the way for a great space superhero title, whose reigns were later taken by the great Jim Starlin. I mean it took a great artist to do it but I feel the first 20 issues of that Marvel series were vastly underappreciated. Plus, after Starlin's success on the character, it paved the way for other Sci-fi type heroes in the Marvel Universe such as making Warlock a more prominent character. And yeah, I like the old Green costume and think it rocks in all its campy 60's goodness. Plus, this Severin cover is fantastic! I will do what it takes to defend Mar-Vel!
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Post by dupersuper on Sept 2, 2015 1:14:46 GMT -5
I could never stand his green costume. I find it, like, Wonder Man bad.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 2, 2015 15:23:50 GMT -5
I read the first volume of Captain Marvel (III) Masterworks not to long ago and it was pretty good. And I certainly dig the Starlin stuff A LOT. Plus, obvious props for having a character die and then stay dead.
I'm just a little pissy that everyone was all naming their character "Captain Marvel" to leech off the original's immense popularity. This wasn't a coincidence like when there were two Black Widows (both Marvel, in this case) or two Daredevils. All the later Captain Marvels were purposefully stealing the original's name.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 13:46:16 GMT -5
The most recent case of the tail wagging the dog in speculation, yesterday the casting of Misty Knight was announced for the Luke Cage Netflix series, last night prices started rising on ebay for Marvel Premiere #20, her first appearance. Now sellers are taking down auctions for the book and relisting them at higher starting bids and buy it now prices...
-M
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 17:38:20 GMT -5
I was more fond of this Mar'vel - Marvel's version of Captain Marvel than the one that had the Green Suit. I do like both costume equally for different reasons - but this one suits him better! I wished they hadn't killed him off and at the time he was my Favorite Marvel Character.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 4, 2015 4:42:29 GMT -5
I was more fond of this Mar'vel - Marvel's version of Captain Marvel than the one that had the Green Suit. I do like both costume equally for different reasons - but this one suits him better! I wished they hadn't killed him off and at the time he was my Favorite Marvel Character. I agree. I bought anything that had him in it and was surprised to hear that his book didn't sell well. But i see that any comic with the title Captain Marvel struggles.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Sept 4, 2015 13:23:53 GMT -5
The most recent case of the tail wagging the dog in speculation, yesterday the casting of Misty Knight was announced for the Luke Cage Netflix series, last night prices started rising on ebay for Marvel Premiere #20, her first appearance. Now sellers are taking down auctions for the book and relisting them at higher starting bids and buy it now prices... -M Lol first mention of her is in that issue but online says her actual appearance is MP #21. Wonder which one will balloon in price more...
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Sept 4, 2015 13:25:46 GMT -5
It's all in branding. Captain Marvel (III)'s first appearance was transferred to his own title almost immediately after he first appeared in Marvel Super-Heroes. "Captain Marvel Adventures" was the best selling superhero comic ever on an issue-by-issue basis. (Although some early '90s titles with a jillion variant covers out-sold it for an issue or two.) (The original) Captain Marvel almost certainly has the most readers of any superhero comic, though.
Maybe stop calling your Captain Marvel comics "Captain Marvel" if you want fans to read it?
And hasn't the current Marvel series been running for almost a decade? It must be selling alright.
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Post by Confessor on Sept 21, 2015 12:00:49 GMT -5
Sweet Jesus! I'm finishing up my review of Marvel's Star Wars #42 and I just went onto eBay to see if there was a decent cover scan that I could pinch. How much are people demanding for this issue?!! It's being listed as the first comic book appearance of Boba Fett, which is nonsense, since he'd already appeared in the paperback-sized The Marvel Comics Illustrated Version of The Empire Strikes Back and the treasury and magazine-sized versions of the Empire Strikes Back adaptation that Marvel put out in May 1980, some four months before this issue hit the stands. My own copy of Star Wars #42 is in NM condition and issues of that grade are currently going for anywhere between £60 and £150 ($100 and $250), with CGC'd copies going for close to £500 in some instances (roughly $800)! I know there's a lot of buzz about SW at the moment, what with the new movie coming out, but those are just crazy prices.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 15:55:16 GMT -5
Sweet Jesus! I'm finishing up my review of Marvel's Star Wars #42 and I just went onto eBay to see if there was a decent cover scan that I could pinch. How much are people demanding for this issue?!! It's being listed as the first comic book appearance of Boba Fett, which is nonsense, since he'd already appeared in the paperback-sized The Marvel Comics Illustrated Version of The Empire Strikes Back and the treasury and magazine-sized versions of the Empire Strikes Back adaptation that Marvel put out in May 1980, some four months before this issue hit the stands. My own copy of Star Wars #42 is in NM condition and issues of that grade are currently going for anywhere between £60 and £150 ($100 and $250), with CGC'd copies going for close to £500 in some instances (roughly $800)! I know there's a lot of buzz about SW at the moment, what with the new movie coming out, but those are just crazy prices. It's been building since before Disney acquired Star Wars from Lucasfilm though. When I was helping out at a shop, at least once a week we would have someone new come in or call asking if we had back issues of Star Wars, and when asked if they were looking for anything in particular, it was always #42. When I started looking at cons for it to see if it was an isolated thing, issues were always 4-5 times Overstreet at that point, so it's not a recent phenomenon (this has been 4+ years now since I started noticing and it was well into the increase by then already) and it's not flash in the pan type thing, it's been building for quite some time now. -M
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Post by The Captain on Sept 21, 2015 16:16:45 GMT -5
Sweet Jesus! I'm finishing up my review of Marvel's Star Wars #42 and I just went onto eBay to see if there was a decent cover scan that I could pinch. How much are people demanding for this issue?!! It's being listed as the first comic book appearance of Boba Fett, which is nonsense, since he'd already appeared in the paperback-sized The Marvel Comics Illustrated Version of The Empire Strikes Back and the treasury and magazine-sized versions of the Empire Strikes Back adaptation that Marvel put out in May 1980, some four months before this issue hit the stands. My own copy of Star Wars #42 is in NM condition and issues of that grade are currently going for anywhere between £60 and £150 ($100 and $250), with CGC'd copies going for close to £500 in some instances (roughly $800)! I know there's a lot of buzz about SW at the moment, what with the new movie coming out, but those are just crazy prices. It's been building since before Disney acquired Star Wars from Lucasfilm though. When I was helping out at a shop, at least once a week we would have someone new come in or call asking if we had back issues of Star Wars, and when asked if they were looking for anything in particular, it was always #42. When I started looking at cons for it to see if it was an isolated thing, issues were always 4-5 times Overstreet at that point, so it's not a recent phenomenon (this has been 4+ years now since I started noticing and it was well into the increase by then already) and it's not flash in the pan type thing, it's been building for quite some time now. -M That's going to be one of those books that I never get due to the ridiculous cost(much like Werewolf by Night #32), even though it will leave a gaping hole in my Star Wars run. I can't imagine paying as much for that issue as I did for my Captain America #100 or my X-Men #94.
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Post by Confessor on Sept 21, 2015 18:02:53 GMT -5
Sweet Jesus! I'm finishing up my review of Marvel's Star Wars #42 and I just went onto eBay to see if there was a decent cover scan that I could pinch. How much are people demanding for this issue?!! It's being listed as the first comic book appearance of Boba Fett, which is nonsense, since he'd already appeared in the paperback-sized The Marvel Comics Illustrated Version of The Empire Strikes Back and the treasury and magazine-sized versions of the Empire Strikes Back adaptation that Marvel put out in May 1980, some four months before this issue hit the stands. My own copy of Star Wars #42 is in NM condition and issues of that grade are currently going for anywhere between £60 and £150 ($100 and $250), with CGC'd copies going for close to £500 in some instances (roughly $800)! I know there's a lot of buzz about SW at the moment, what with the new movie coming out, but those are just crazy prices. It's been building since before Disney acquired Star Wars from Lucasfilm though. When I was helping out at a shop, at least once a week we would have someone new come in or call asking if we had back issues of Star Wars, and when asked if they were looking for anything in particular, it was always #42. When I started looking at cons for it to see if it was an isolated thing, issues were always 4-5 times Overstreet at that point, so it's not a recent phenomenon (this has been 4+ years now since I started noticing and it was well into the increase by then already) and it's not flash in the pan type thing, it's been building for quite some time now. -M Fascinating info mrp, I didn't realise that at all. But then again, before today I had absolutely no idea how much this issue was going for at all. EDIT: OK, now you've got me curious. How much do you think a full run of Marvel's Star Wars run (including all annuals, ROTJ mini-series and the Droids/Ewoks spin-offs) would be worth, mrp? Most of my issues are in NM condition, with maybe a fifth of them falling into the VF category. Not that I'd ever sell them, you understand, they're my pride and joy. But I must admit that I'm kinda curious now.
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Post by Confessor on Sept 21, 2015 18:04:18 GMT -5
That's going to be one of those books that I never get due to the ridiculous cost(much like Werewolf by Night #32), even though it will leave a gaping hole in my Star Wars run. Wish I had a spare copy that I could give to you, Richard, but alas, I don't.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Sept 21, 2015 18:36:47 GMT -5
According to recent sales, Marvel Knights Spider-Man #20 I believe is selling for $10-20 online. Why? Apparently it is the first time MJ wears and Iron Man suit? Forgive me, but not being into what is current may blind me from seeing why that is worth much lol.
I love that stuff like this can drive comic interest and sales but I hate it when, as a collector, a book that was once achievable suddenly becomes crazy in price. Then you either have to wait out the hype for the book to drop or risk it going up and staying up. Werewolf By Night seems to have been high for a number of years now though despite zero real movie/TV show hype.
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