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Post by wildfire2099 on May 22, 2014 21:01:47 GMT -5
I'm really digging Slam's thread, so since I just picked up some trades, decided to copy him . I've read very little classic DC, so many of this stories I'll be actually reading for the 1st time (though I've heard of many of them). Index: Atom (From Atom Showcase vol. 1): Showcase #34, Showcase #35, Atom #1, Atom #2, Atom #3, Atom #4, Atom #5, Atom #6, Atom #7, Atom #8, Atom #9 Atom #10 Atom #11 Atom #12Batgirl (From Batgirl Showcase vol. 1): Detective #359, Detective #363, World's Finest #169, Detective #369, Batman #197, Detective Comics 371, JLA #60, Brave and the Bold 78, World's Finest 176, Detective Comics 384-385; Adventure Comics 381, Detective Comics 388-389, Batman 214, 'Tec 392-393; 396-397Blackhawk (From Actual Comics): Blackhawk 217, 220, Blackhawk 224Challengers of the Unknown (From Challs Showcase vol. 1): Showcase #6 , Showcase #7, Showcase #11, Showcase #12, Challengers #1, Challengers #2, Challengers #3, Challengers #4-5, Challengers #6, Challengers #7Elongated Man (From Elongated Man Showcase vol. 1): Flash 112,115,119,124 , Flash 130Flash (From Flash Omnibus vol. 1): Flash Comics #104, Showcase #4, Showcase #8, Showcase 13-14, Flash 105, Flash #106, Flash #107, Flash #108, Flash #109, Flash #110 , Flash #111, Flash #112, Flash #113, Flash #114-115
Green Lantern (COMPLETED Silver Age Green Lantern Vol. 1): Showcase #22, Showcase #23 Showcase #24, Green Lantern #1 Green Lantern #2 Green Lantern #3 Green Lantern #4 Green Lantern #5, Green Lantern 6-9Hawkman (From Hawkman Showcase Vol. 1): Brave and the Bold 34, Brave and the Bold 35, Brave and the Bold 36, Brave and the Bold 42, Brave and the Bold 43, Brave and the Bold 44, Mystery in Space 87, Mystery in Space 88, Brave and the Bold 51, Mystery in Space 89, Mystery in Space #90, Hawkman #1, Hawkman #2, Hawkman #3 Action Comics 256-257, Hawkman #4, Hawkman #5 Hawkman #6
From actual comics: Hawkman #16Justice League of America (from Omnibus vol. 1): Brave and the Bold 28, Brave and the Bold 29, Brave and the Bold #30, JLA #1, JLA #2, JLA #3, JLA #4, JLA #5, JLA #6, JLA #7, JLA #8, JLA #9, JLA #10, JLA #11, JLA #12, JLA #13 Lois Lane (From actual comics!): Lois Lane #63, Lois Lane #64 , Lois Lane #65, Lois Lane #72, Lois Lane #73, Lois Lane #83, Lois Lane #84Martian Manhunter (from Showcase vol. 1): Batman #78; Detective #225, 'Tec 226-227, 'Tec 228-230, 'Tec 231-232, 'Tec 233 - 235, Detective 236, Detective 237, 'Tec 238-239, 'Tec 240-241, 'Tec 242-245Supergirl (From Supergirl Silver Age Omni) Action 252-253, Action 254-255, Action Comics 256-257, Action Comics 258, Action Comics 259-261, Action Comics 262-263 Actions Comics 264-265 Action Comics 266-267 Action Comics 268-269, Action Comics 270, Action 271-275, Action Comics 276 - 277, Action 278-282 (The Lesla-Lar Saga), Action 283 - 285, Action 286 Action 287(from actual comics) Action Comics 333, Action Comics #335 Action #337Online, courtesy of MDG: Brave and the Bold 62 Superman (from actual comics): Action Comics 333, Action Comics #335 Action Comics #337Wonder Woman (from All-New Wonder Wonder TPB): Wonder Woman 178-183World's Finest (from World's Finest Archive Vol. 1): Superman 76, World's Finest 71-72, World's Finest 73-75, World's Finest 76-77, World's Finest 78-79 World's Finest 80-81Bat Lash (from actual comics!): Bat Lash #1, Bat Lash 2,4,5, Bat Lash #3, Bat Lash #6, Bat Lash #7
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 22, 2014 21:32:21 GMT -5
Quite a classic cover.. though it doesn't reflect what's in a comic at all... it's funny, I never thought about it before, but I don't remember a desert right outside New York City. No origin story here (That comes much later), but we jump right in, with the Justice League fully established, including communicators and an HQ. I wonder how many kids went looking for an earlier story, or if they were just too excited at the uber-coolness. The story starts out with Aquaman being told by Johnny the puffer fish(I think that was his name) that a weird alien Starfish has landed, and claimed a few locals as his henchmen. Quite a smart puffer fish. Aquaman calls the league, and we see each of them answering the call. Superman and Batman are too busy, but the others drop what they're doing to answer. Superman has a good excuse (he's out in space punching meteors), but Batman was just cruising Gotham going after unnamed 'villians' (I guess it was too much to co-ordinate the excuse with the current bat-book). Man, was the 60s Batmobile terrible... or was that just here? Upon reflection, this is many years before the BatGod, so maybe he was just sparing his own ego, since alien starfish monsters are bit above his pay grade. Turns out, they're above Aquaman's too...as he is assigned to 'look to make sure they're aren't any more) while the others deal with the starfish. Wonder Woman seems alot less powerful than she is now, and gets pair with Martian Manhunter, which Flash and GL go off on their own. Green Lantern's up first, and his starfish is trying to steal an 'atom bomb' from a plane in Colorado. One does wonder why the Air Force has planes in the air in Colorado with Atom Bombs on them. The Starro henchmen takes down the plane, and makes off with the bomb while Green Lantern saves the pilot. the Starro triggers the bomb (apparently in the mountains so no one gets hurt), and absorbs the energy. Green Lantern than zaps him with his ring and wills it to turn back into a regular starfish. One for the good guys! Next up Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter's turn... they struggle alot more, but end up winning when J'onn takes some small meteors (see what they did there... Superman helped) and uses his 'super Martian breath' to smash them into the Starro. It starts getting smaller, and the pummel it into submission. Why he didn't just blow the Starro into space if he could do that, I'm not sure. Flash catches his in Happy Harbor, where it's brainwashing everyone in town.. except Snapper Carr. Flash saves Snapper and wins pretty easily, then decides to keep the kid around, since he didn't get brainwashed. Back at HQ, Aquaman sends the others out to get the main Starro, who has learned from his henchmen and has all their powers. It very trickily turns yellow to foil Green Lantern, but Flash figures out the lime from Snapper's yard work was what saved him. They somehow get a seeming literal ton of the stuff and bury Starro in it.. good thing Alien conquer starfish are so similar to our own! The good guys win, and Snapper gets to be an honorary member. Whew! That's alot in one issue! Not much actual team work, though, just at the every end... Starro is much more menacing in his later appearances... there was never any real concern the good guys weren't going to win, and it seemed Flash, GL, or Manhunter all could have handled it themselves... we did get a little team work at the end (though it was essentially gardening), but not much to speak of. Aquaman was almost in the Jarvis role, which was pretty hilarious. At least they didn't have Wonder Woman play damsel in distress. Not the greatest story ever, but it sure does drop with potential, and it was pretty fun. Historic Signifigance: 10/10 Story: 6/10
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Post by Hoosier X on May 22, 2014 22:30:35 GMT -5
It's not one of the Silver Age origins that I've read over and over again, but it'll do, it'll do.
This will be fun. JLA is a huge gap in my classic comics reading. I have read JLA Archives #1, and some of the JLA/JSA team-ups. And I'm struggling through JLA Showcase, Volume 5, right now. But other than that, I've read no other Silver Age JLA.
Last night, I was looking at a reprint volume I have, and I read the JLA/Adam Strange story in Mystery into Space #75. (OMG! That Infantino/Anderson art!) and I read the first few pages of the first JLA story (because it's in the same volume). I'm really not that interested in the story because Starro is LAME! But for some reason I love those first few pages!
Peter the Puffer Fish cracks me up every time! And Wonder Woman can't get away from Steve fast enough! He's trying to put his arm around her and she's pulling away! "Gotta go, Steve! Don't wait up!"
You gotta love the way Batman blows them off. (I have heard that Superman and Batman weren't used as much because they wanted to give more coverage to the heroes who weren't already appearing in multiple comics every month. The management wanted them on the team, though, to be on covers and be in promotional ads to help sell the book.)
It's just like the JSA! They hear about a menace, they have a meeting place to discuss it, they split into separate adventures, then they meet at the end for the big finale. (And instead of Johnny Thunder, they have Snapper (who, instead of a magic thunderbolt, has magic lawn care products.)
I can't wait until we get to the good stuff, like Amazo and Amos Fortune.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on May 23, 2014 3:11:34 GMT -5
Quite a classic cover.. though it doesn't reflect what's in a comic at all... it's funny, I never thought about it before, but I don't remember a desert right outside New York City. That looks like the Empire State Building on the cover but do they actually mention New York City in the store? Thats pretty rare for a DC comic in this era using an actual name. I enjoyed the early JLA and Gardner Fox's writing.But it will be hard to enjoy reading these issues consecutively in a long run. There's a set pattern Gardner uses for these tales and the repetition along with over-exposure to Snapper Carr could be hazardous to your mental health
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 23, 2014 6:09:06 GMT -5
They don't actually mention New York, no. The 1st part is in Colorado, the last part in Happy Harbor.. the other two aren't indentified that I recall. maybe we can pretend it's Coast City Yeah, Snapper's a bit trying, but I've read a bunch of Haney Teen Titan's, it's not as bad as that. The best part about the Wonder Woman scene was 'I can't marry you until all injustice is gone from the world'... don't hold your breath, Steve! I have read a few of the early JLAs (I got a few scattered ones in the 20s and 30s a couple years back for a buck each) but most are new to me, too.
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Post by Cei-U! on May 23, 2014 6:57:28 GMT -5
I'm going through several Silver Age series for my Alter Ego article, including Justice League, so I'll be interested in reading what y'all have to say about them. I probably won't participate much, aside from the occasional correction, since anything profound I might have to say I'm kinda obligated to save for Roy.
Cei-U! I summon the observation post!
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Post by Hoosier X on May 23, 2014 9:29:16 GMT -5
Maybe it's not the desert. Maybe it's Rockaway Beach.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 23, 2014 10:35:36 GMT -5
I'm going through several Silver Age series for my Alter Ego article, including Justice League, so I'll be interested in reading what y'all have to say about them. I probably won't participate much, aside from the occasional correction, since anything profound I might have to say I'm kinda obligated to save for Roy. Cei-U! I summon the observation post! Of course! I thought it was kinda neat Roy Thomas did the intro to the Omnibus... I think of him as a Marvel guy... even though I know he did lots with DC, too. Feel free to correct as needed, use me as a 'dumb modern fan' to compare you surely astute observations to in the article, or whatever
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Post by Crimebuster on May 23, 2014 11:31:56 GMT -5
Maybe it's not the desert. Maybe it's Rockaway Beach. I think it's the Hudson River. It's just that polluted.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on May 23, 2014 11:51:08 GMT -5
It could be Asbury Park on the New Jersey shore about 12 years before Bruce Springfield showed up.Or the other part of the Jersey shore before Snooki appeared
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Post by Hoosier X on May 23, 2014 12:15:49 GMT -5
If Snooki fought Starro, who would win?
And would the winner get Sbarro?
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 23, 2014 13:20:31 GMT -5
Is Snooki still around? Last I saw she did a WWE appearance (which was strangely appropriate)... I kinda thought the Jersey Shore thing was done.
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Post by Rob Allen on May 23, 2014 14:53:13 GMT -5
It could be Asbury Park on the New Jersey shore about 12 years before Bruce Springfield showed up.Or the other part of the Jersey shore before Snooki appeared You can't see Manhattan from the Jersey shore. To see the Empire State Building from the angle shown, you'd have to be in Weehawken, Union City or West New York. And you must have been listening to Buffalo Springsteen when you wrote that.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 23, 2014 15:05:08 GMT -5
I love their song 'What's its worth in the USA'
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Post by Prince Hal on May 23, 2014 15:22:33 GMT -5
(I have heard that Superman and Batman weren't used as much because they wanted to give more coverage to the heroes who weren't already appearing in multiple comics every month. The management wanted them on the team, though, to be on covers and be in promotional ads to help sell the book.) Well, yes and no. DC really did try to echo the style of All-Star Comics, though Superman and Batman appeared pretty regularly in JLA, unlike their Golden Age counterparts, but the covers were minus the World's Finest heroes for quite a while. From B and B #28 through JLA # 24, Batman and Superman almost never appeared on the cover. (That's almost four years, from March-April 1960 through December of '63.) Including the three B and B issues, it was 12 issues before they appeared on a cover (JLA #13), and then it was only as the tiny tips of two of Felix Faust's fingers. They're gone again till #19, and they appear in uniform, and in their civilian identities as Clark and Bruce. Two issues later, they're holding hands at the JSA "seance." By #25 they're alternating a bit, with Superman on #25 (first time in a truly prominent spot) and #28, Batman on #s 26, 30, and 31 and both on #s 29 and 32. From there through #200 (the original run), An issue of JLA came out without an image of Batman and/or Superman on the cover just times: #s 37, 38, 39, 57, 73, 1919 and 198. On #116, it's Batman only, and his head had been changed into a rat's (but he was in his costume) and on #151, their heads were featured as white-line drawings. And of course, during the Batmania phase, the covers all look like they belonged on "Batman and his Pals," b/c of his overblown presence.
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