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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 18, 2014 8:35:13 GMT -5
Considering that Batman is my favorite comic book character, it's a bit surprising that he appears so infrequently on this year's list. There have been hundreds of good Batman stories and dozens of outstanding ones but of them all, none has ever touched me the way today's pick has. #7. The Brave and the Bold #197For once, I'm going to let the story itself speak for me: In a single page, scripter Alan Brennert does more to make the original Caped Crusader of the Golden Age a genuine, psychologically complex human being than anyone before or since (without, I might add, turning him into the obnoxious psychotic nearly every writer since Frank Miller seems compelled to depict Batman as). With one of my all-time favorite Bat villains, wonderful Spranguesque art by the Joe Staton/George Freeman team, and a clever cover by Jim Aparo as icing on the cake, there's no way this couldn't be both my favorite issue of B&B and my favorite Batman story. Cei-U! I summon the class act!
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 18, 2014 9:09:06 GMT -5
Considering that Batman is my favorite comic book character, it's a bit surprising that he appears so infrequently on this year's list. There have been hundreds of good Batman stories and dozens of outstanding ones but of them all, none has ever touched me the way today's pick has. #7. The Brave and the Bold #197View AttachmentFor once, I'm going to let the story itself speak for me: View AttachmentIn a single page, scripter Alan Brennert does more to make the original Caped Crusader of the Golden Age a genuine, psychologically complex human being than anyone before or since (without, I might add, turning him into the obnoxious psychotic nearly every writer since Frank Miller seems compelled to depict Batman as). With one of my all-time favorite Bat villains, wonderful Spranguesque art by the Joe Staton/George Freeman team, and a clever cover by Jim Aparo as icing on the cake, there's no way this couldn't be both my favorite issue of B&B and my favorite Batman story. Cei-U! I summon the class act! I love that run of Brennert stories. The one with the earth 2 robin just missed my list.
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Post by paulie on Dec 18, 2014 10:28:35 GMT -5
#7 Avengers 23; December, 1965There are plenty of issues of Avengers that I like better than Avengers 23. Avengers 3 with the Hulk-Namor fight, Avengers 56 when Cap travels back in time to witness Bucky dying again, 72 with the awesome fight with the Zodiac, pretty much all of the issues from 76-100, 133 with the origin of the Kree, and then pretty much the entire Shooter era and all those awesome Stern-Buscema-Palmer issues. So why is this one showing up on my Classic Comics Christmas list in 7th place? Well let me tell you... I think more than any other issue of the Avengers this is what firmly established the template of what kind of stories would be told in the title going forward and especially how they were told. Our team ends up embroiled in a cosmic coup d'etat somewhere in the timestream. Kang, the ultimate Avengers villain, pleads with the team to help him out of the mess, and the long, complicated history between the Avengers and Kang now becomes firmly established. And let's not forget the tragic Ravonna. This kind of mix of cosmic, melodrama, 4-6 person Avengers rosters, and super-villainy with lots of grey areas would be used again and again in the title (See issues 28, 50-51, 69-71, 89-100, and on and on.) After two years, the Avengers had found the format that for all intents and purposes persists to this day. Don Heck's excellent layouts, but often poor pencils, are given a nice sheen here by John Romita in his return to Marvel after a few years in the comics wilderness. It is a gorgeous looking issue and semaphores what the Spider Man book would end up looking like in a few months time. But Avengers 23 was the dry run. I would have loved to have been there when Stan saw the interior pages Romita delivered and shouted "Excelsior! This is what I think Spidey should look like!" Avengers 23 (and 24, excluded here only because Romita did not ink it) are the two books I always point to when folks say that Stan was nothing without Kirby or Ditko. "See Avengers 23 and 24" I say, "All the good stuff is right there." Attachments:
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Post by paulie on Dec 18, 2014 10:29:27 GMT -5
Considering that Batman is my favorite comic book character, it's a bit surprising that he appears so infrequently on this year's list. There have been hundreds of good Batman stories and dozens of outstanding ones but of them all, none has ever touched me the way today's pick has. #7. The Brave and the Bold #197For once, I'm going to let the story itself speak for me: In a single page, scripter Alan Brennert does more to make the original Caped Crusader of the Golden Age a genuine, psychologically complex human being than anyone before or since (without, I might add, turning him into the obnoxious psychotic nearly every writer since Frank Miller seems compelled to depict Batman as). With one of my all-time favorite Bat villains, wonderful Spranguesque art by the Joe Staton/George Freeman team, and a clever cover by Jim Aparo as icing on the cake, there's no way this couldn't be both my favorite issue of B&B and my favorite Batman story. Cei-U! I summon the class act! I love that run of Brennert stories. The one with the earth 2 robin just missed my list. I love that Brennert story that he did in Daredevil right after Miller left. He should have been given that title instead of Denny O'Neil.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 18, 2014 12:02:30 GMT -5
Considering that Batman is my favorite comic book character, it's a bit surprising that he appears so infrequently on this year's list. There have been hundreds of good Batman stories and dozens of outstanding ones but of them all, none has ever touched me the way today's pick has. #7. The Brave and the Bold #197For once, I'm going to let the story itself speak for me: In a single page, scripter Alan Brennert does more to make the original Caped Crusader of the Golden Age a genuine, psychologically complex human being than anyone before or since (without, I might add, turning him into the obnoxious psychotic nearly every writer since Frank Miller seems compelled to depict Batman as). With one of my all-time favorite Bat villains, wonderful Spranguesque art by the Joe Staton/George Freeman team, and a clever cover by Jim Aparo as icing on the cake, there's no way this couldn't be both my favorite issue of B&B and my favorite Batman story. Cei-U! I summon the class act! This showed up the last time we did a "best issues" Christmas. I'm not entirely sure it will this time because I'm going in a bit of a different way. But this is definitely one of my favorite comics. And if it doesn't show up it probably should.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 18, 2014 12:15:36 GMT -5
#7 - Batman: The Killing Joke (March 1988) When comics got all dark and gritty in the late '80s, it was The Killing Joke that was my gateway into all that. I had heard about these new "graphic novels" with mysterious titles like Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns (although I wouldn't read either until around 1990 or so), but I hadn't actually read any of these new "mature" comic books. When I saw an advert for The Killing Joke in an early 1988 issue from DC, the crazed image of the joker and the accompanying blurb that promised "a shocking look at the terror and violence of insanity" (I'm paraphrasing here), meant that I had to get hold of this thing. However, with this being a prestige format book, I knew that the one local newsagents shop that stocked American Marvels and DCs would never have it in. No, I was gonna have to go up to the big, bad city of London and enter an honest-to-goodness comic shop, if I wanted this graphic novel. I talked with my comic book collecting friends at school and they told me about a really cool comic shop called Paradise Alley that was hidden, appropriately enough, down a narrow alley off of Oxford Street. So, some weeks or even a month or two later (my memory is a little hazy here) I made the journey up to London by train alone, from my hometown in Buckinghamshire. I was only 15 at the time and such an expedition up to "the big smoke" on my own was quite daunting and scarey. I dunno, maybe I was a bit of a sheltered kid. Anyway, I located the comic shop in question. It was cramped and small, but it was an Aladdin's cave of vintage U.S. comics and trading cards. Sure enough I found a copy of The Killing Joke and I also bought a couple of other old Marvels (more of them later), since that was all I could afford with my limited funds, made up of paper round money. Getting home and reading the book, I was blown away by how good it was. Here was a level of complexity and maturity that I had never encountered in a comic book before. But more than that, it was also a seriously gripping story. One that hit you like a sledgehammer. It was violent -- shockingly so, actually -- and it was all exquisitely drawn by Brian Bolland. This was like nothing I had ever read before. The ending in particular made a profound impression on me. The Killing Joke immediately became my favourite comic book and, although it has slipped down from that high pedestal in the years since, it's still an amazingly well written, well drawn and well executed graphic novel. And it's still one of my favourite comics ever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 12:15:47 GMT -5
#7: The Legion of Super-Heroes #294 (DC, 1982) This is another one I can thank DC Kid (as mentioned in my #2) for. He was a huge Legion fan, and I was way into X-Men by this point, so we started loaning issues to each other. The first issue he loaned me was Legion #288 (2nd series), and I thought it was a good read. I wanted more. As I borrowed each issue (#289-293), I became more and more enthralled with the story and characters. It was hard to understand everything coming in fresh, but I enjoyed Giffen's artwork and there was a sci-fi aspect to the Legion that I found interesting. When I got to #294, I read it and was just blown away. Again, I didn't understand everything, I had no idea who Orion and the Highfather was, but it was an epic enough read to make me want to further explore the DC universe. My only previous encounter with Darkseid was the 2nd series of Super Powers, which was decent, but this one better illustrated how big a threat Darkseid was. I thought the perseverance of the heroes was awesome, and who can forget that one-two super punch? Loved how both Superman and Supergirl just wailed on him. But even in defeat, Darkseid is a threat.
Darkseid says it best: "You have won, children of the light. The darkness is fading, even as we watch. But remember, the darkness cannot surrender. It is always with you, always on the fringe of dawn...and the instant you gaze at it in fear...your time will come." A year later, my elementary school had a flea market day where our families were invited to park their cars in the school parking lot to sell stuff. DC Kid's family parked nearby, and I noticed he was selling his Legion comics. I was shocked. He said he wanted Transformers and was selling over thirty Legion comics for $5 bucks. This was an offer I couldn't refuse. Someone had bought a few of my Star Wars figures earlier, so I gladly gave him an Abe Lincoln for the comics, which included the Great Darkness Saga as well as the first five issues from the 3rd series of Legion, which only further solidified my appreciation for the series. Thank you, DC Kid.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 18, 2014 12:17:58 GMT -5
DC Super-Stars #17 (DC Dec.'77) I was always a geek for Secret Origins books. And this one really was something special. As previously stated I gained my love for the JSA and things Earth-2 early on. When The Huntress appeared I latched on like a remora. I bought every appearance of Helena Wayne from this issue until her disappearance in the Crisis. That's just one more reason that I hated that series. I even bought Wonder Woman because she was the back-up, something I never would have done before or since. She was the only character I followed from inception to the end. And it's likely she'll remain that way, at least for corporate owned characters.
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Post by Pharozonk on Dec 18, 2014 12:38:53 GMT -5
#7: Legion of Superheroes #297It's no secret here that I'm a HUGE Cosmic Boy fan and he's my favorite Legionnaire. This story is the reason he become one of my favorite DC characters. In the story, Cosmic Boy finds out that his family and friends on his home planet of Braal have been killed in an explosion caused by a bomb set off as part of a protection racket. Enraged, he sets off on a mission of vengeance to find the his parents' killers and bring them to justice, by any means necessary. Keith Giffen's pencils beautifully convey the feelings of fury and unrestrained ferocity that Rokk is experiencing when he confronts the the killers. However, what makes this story so profound is the contrast we see between Rokk's normal straight man personality and the savage beast he becomes in this issue, subtly crafted by Paul Levitz. The final panels of the issue give me chills every time I read them. If you've read this issue, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
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Post by badwolf on Dec 18, 2014 12:49:37 GMT -5
Spider-Woman #9 "Eye of the Needle" by Mark Gruenwald & Carmine Infantino This was my first Spider-Woman comic. Well, technically, it was my sister's, but since she wasn't really a comics person (don't know that she even read it) it eventually came to me. The Needle was an elderly tailor who was mugged while leaving his shop late one night. The assault left him mute but unlocked a latent power, the ability to hypnotize others with his remaining good eye. When he got out of the hospital, he put on a costume and took his anger out on others by sewing their lips together. Yes, this is a horror comic. It was really disturbing for it's time. Carmine Infantino draws a fine Jessica: I was actually never a huge fan of his style, but it often depends on who's inking. This time it's Al Gordon. Jessica had a lot of oddball foes over the years, but I don't think any of them were as grotesque as the Needle. He would later be cast as an antihero in the Shroud's "Night Shift" (as well as be drawn by artists who seemed to forget he was an old man), but I prefer to remember him as a one-off villain. Anyway, this is a really creepy issue (especially for an 8 year-old) that has stuck with me ever since.
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 18, 2014 15:03:30 GMT -5
Today's issue was a copy I got from a friend of mine in school who was a character himself. In fact, he reminds as I think about it now, a lot of a character in this issue. His older brother had this and Ronnie inherited it and knew I loved comics and sold it to me. The transaction was made at my locker. If a teacher had caught us with this, we both knew it was probably going to be trouble, but it was worth it. Bear in mind, the year is 1979. My first foray into underground comics and Gilbert Shelton's most famous title : From left to right : Freewheelin' Franklin (reminiscent of another classmate of ours), Fat Freddy (dead ringer for my dad's best friend in high school - later busted in Miami in a big drug smuggling ring), Phineas T. Freakears (another dead ringer for my first comic shop dealer), and in front, Fat Freddy's Cat, star of his own book. Drugs, sex, rock n roll, tune in, drop out. I remember Freddy sweating it in one of the stories as he asked a pharmacist for some "rubbers" and the pharmacist coldly replying "prophylactics", but still selling them to Freddy. and then the back cover which I still vividly remember and as a bonus Ted Richards' classic Dopin' Dan too. Of course subversive "literature" like this (my gateway book) went on to higher lows with Robert Crumb, Trina Robbins, Larry Welz, Denis Kitchen, John Pound, Rich Corben and many more. You never forget your first.
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Post by foxley on Dec 18, 2014 16:02:46 GMT -5
#7. Kurt Busiek's Astro City #10
Synopsis: Junkman enjoys the fruits of his illegal activities, but comes to realise he craves recognition. Why I chose it: In the interests of variety, I decided that my list should only include one Astro City issue, so it then became a matter of chosing my favourite. I gave serious consideration to the heart-wrenching "The Nearness of You", but that story receives a lot of praise. So instead I thought I would give some love to what i consider to be the hidden gem of KBAC: "Show 'Em All". In a single issue, Kurt gives us the best exploration of supervillain psychology in comics. Ever. This one issue encapsulates everything I love about Astro City. If I was going to be stranded on a desert isalnd, this is the issue I would want to have with me.
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Post by metarog on Dec 18, 2014 16:12:18 GMT -5
7. Neutro #1 Dell
Some things can be so bad they get our attention-think Plan 9 from Outer Space. Although laughable this issue has a certain charm that is hard to explain. I picked this up in a 25 cent bin many years ago and thought I had found a bargain… not so much! The art is crude, the writing baffling and the characters forgettable… and those are the good traits! That being said I still find it interesting that someone thought this issue was worthy of being published. I had many good times showing this comic to friends just to see their reaction. Most of the time they laughed or cringed at the illogical and bizarre happenings inside. The cover states that Neutro did not know the difference between right and wrong… well that right there is pretty problematic for “ The Most Astounding Super Hero of All”. It is one of my favorites for making me laugh unexpectedly every time I read it.
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Dec 18, 2014 16:49:44 GMT -5
#7. The Avengers 170 Jim Shooter, George Perez, and Pablo Marcos.
Out of all of my choices this one has caused the most trouble because I really love the Avengers, all of them. How do I do this great title justice with a solo entry ? How do I do justice to the many great creative teams ? How the hell do I choose just one book ? Given that my choice may seem odd, no Stan and Jack (cant really remember the old issues), no Don Heck (never a fan sorry), what, no J Buscema I hear you say(hmmm big fan and I do like that era), no Kree/Skrull war, or Ultron Unlimited ? Well no. I think the Kree/Skrull war was over-rated, and though I do love me some Ultron I just keep coming back to this. My first Avengers book. Sure I'd read plenty, but in 1978, not even 14 yet, and just starting to collect, this was my first. I was hooked, and what a time to get hooked too. In the middle of the Korvac story, George Perez at the start of his meteoric rise to fame, Shooter writing some awesome stories, and I was along for the ride with a vengeance. In my view George is THE Avengers artist, from his first story in the old west (which I had half written up on this page before a last minute change of heart), through his late 90s work with Kurt Busiek to the Avengers/JLA crossover the reality is that you could probably interchange any single issue for this spot, he just doesnt let you down. The first couple of pages illustrate what would become a favourite aspect of the team, the sense of camaraderie, of family. I also fell in love with Beast, and the shot below where he casually carries off Caps HUGE barbell captures him perfectly. Yeah, so while it aint the best book ever, its got the best creators, some of the best squad members, and its smack dab in the middle of what must be the hottest creative time in Avengers history, and of course, no matter how I try to choose a different issue, that cover keeps sucking me back in.
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Post by paulie on Dec 18, 2014 17:36:18 GMT -5
#7. The Avengers 170 Jim Shooter, George Perez, and Pablo Marcos.
Out of all of my choices this one has caused the most trouble because I really love the Avengers, all of them. How do I do this great title justice with a solo entry ? How do I do justice to the many great creative teams ? How the hell do I choose just one book ? Given that my choice may seem odd, no Stan and Jack (cant really remember the old issues), no Don Heck (never a fan sorry), what, no J Buscema I hear you say(hmmm big fan and I do like that era), no Kree/Skrull war, or Ultron Unlimited ? Well no. I think the Kree/Skrull war was over-rated, and though I do love me some Ultron I just keep coming back to this. My first Avengers book. Sure I'd read plenty, but in 1978, not even 14 yet, and just starting to collect, this was my first. I was hooked, and what a time to get hooked too. In the middle of the Korvac story, George Perez at the start of his meteoric rise to fame, Shooter writing some awesome stories, and I was along for the ride with a vengeance. In my view George is THE Avengers artist, from his first story in the old west (which I had half written up on this page before a last minute change of heart), through his late 90s work with Kurt Busiek to the Avengers/JLA crossover the reality is that you could probably interchange any single issue for this spot, he just doesnt let you down. The first couple of pages illustrate what would become a favourite aspect of the team, the sense of camaraderie, of family. I also fell in love with Beast, and the shot below where he casually carries off Caps HUGE barbell captures him perfectly. Yeah, so while it aint the best book ever, its got the best creators, some of the best squad members, and its smack dab in the middle of what must be the hottest creative time in Avengers history, and of course, no matter how I try to choose a different issue, that cover keeps sucking me back in. This entire era of Avengers... from about 155 to the end of the Korvac saga was on my shortlist. I'm glad to see it made someone's Classic Comics Christmas.
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