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Post by badwolf on Nov 2, 2023 15:52:01 GMT -5
I can never find anything I want to watch on streaming. It's mostly direct to video rubbish.
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Post by Rags on Nov 2, 2023 15:57:45 GMT -5
I can never find anything I want to watch on streaming. It's mostly direct to video rubbish.
Recent theatrical movies go to VOD within a few weeks of release, especially if the opening box-office weekend is below a certain threshold. So I've got Equalizer 3, Saw 10 and the new Exorcist all on spin. But I am hoping the Equalizer trilogy gets a boxed set on blu-ray, that will look spiffy on the shelf.
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Post by badwolf on Nov 2, 2023 20:32:36 GMT -5
Direct to video and infinite sequels.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 3, 2023 1:06:46 GMT -5
I suppose that the digital copy of comics is a very valuable tool for researchers and scholars of the genre. If I have to index the appearances of some obscure character, it would probably take me a fraction of the time to index that with digital versions compared to the physical counterparts. I would never have been able to research and write my book had it not been for having digital copies of all those Golden Age comics. The 4 gigabyte exterior hard drive on my computer also contains thousands of Atomic, Silver, and Bronze Age comics, including virtually every DC published prior to 1986. But I still have a large collection of paper-and-ink comics, and although I've slowed down adding to it in recent years I'm still occasionally doing so. There really is nothing like sitting down with a stack of old funnybooks and getting lost in their pages.
Cei-U! I summon the best of both worlds!
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Post by EdoBosnar on Nov 3, 2023 6:24:56 GMT -5
Heh, when I first saw the title of this thread a few days ago, I thought it would be about the potentially fleeting nature of the media on which we store all of this digital content now available (i.e., the files/data themselves may be immutable in character, but the storage media are do not last forever). Anyway, I can't really add much to this discussion that hasn't already been said; I fully agree that having content, esp. reading material, in digital format is incredibly convenient and saves tons of space - which is a serious consideration for me given how small my house is. And like others, I have an external drive with thousands of comics and prose books loaded on it. However, a few things driver1980 said in his initial post really resonate with me, the main thing being that in a way the stuff I have in digital format is kind of easy to forget. I don't feel the same urgency to read that material as I do the physical books I have. In fact, recently I was scrolling through the book folder on my pad and realized I have some e-books that I'd completely forgotten about, which pretty much never happens with my physical books. So while I fully appreciate all of the advantages and convenience of digital, for me nothing beats having a physical book in my hands.
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 3, 2023 6:31:39 GMT -5
It’s interesting, EdoBosnar, that, like me, you’d forgotten about books on your iPad. I think “out of sight, out of mind” is very much a thing. I saw a book in Waterstones about cricket facts and figures. I thought, ‘Hmm, I may have this on my Kindle.’ It was certainly familiar. When I got home, I was able to check my Kindle - and it was there. Glad I didn’t buy it twice. One point I mentioned, and Rags picked up on this, is when you can show your collection to others. A couple of years ago, a surveyor visited my apartment. In the midst of checking the things he had to check, he did point to a Spider-Man book he had seen. He mentioned he’d only seen the films and hadn’t read a Spidey book. While we couldn’t obviously spend 2 hours talking about Spidey - he had a flat to survey - it proves that physical books can open up a discussion. On another occasion, a friend came to mine for a drink and he noticed a Formula One book on the shelf. Like the surveyor, he commented on the book, offering his own views on F1. No conversation ever occurred (I’m sure) because a visitor spotted your iPad on the table and said, “Oh, I see a Stephen King cover there, let’s talk about his books…”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2023 8:32:46 GMT -5
While I posted earlier on how much I strongly personally prefer physical media, perhaps the bigger benefit to this day and age is the fact that both have been co-existing wonderfully for many years now. The "demise" of print materials, DVD's, CD's, etc. simply hasn't happened despite the continued shift in balance to streaming.
I can still happily buy an overwhelming amount of the content I want in the format I want. So to me, while I don't think digital is fleeting (I'm quite sure it's here to stay and that's good for the many people it works well for), I also don't feel like it has undercut my ability to still enjoy physical media. Will the "best of both worlds" continue to last? Check back in another 10 years. Some of the predictions from 10 years ago certainly weren't right ("print comics will no longer exist", "DVD's are doomed", etc.).
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Post by zaku on Nov 3, 2023 8:42:59 GMT -5
I suppose that the digital copy of comics is a very valuable tool for researchers and scholars of the genre. If I have to index the appearances of some obscure character, it would probably take me a fraction of the time to index that with digital versions compared to the physical counterparts. I would never have been able to research and write my book had it not been for having digital copies of all those Golden Age comics. The 4 gigabyte exterior hard drive on my computer also contains thousands of Atomic, Silver, and Bronze Age comics, including virtually every DC published prior to 1986. But I still have a large collection of paper-and-ink comics, and although I've slowed down adding to it in recent years I'm still occasionally doing so. There really is nothing like sitting down with a stack of old funnybooks and getting lost in their pages.
Cei-U! I summon the best of both worlds!
Incidentally, in the "olden" days, when an author working at one of the Big Two wanted to use an obscure character and wasn't sure where he or she last appeared, did they have someone to ask? Was there a research department where you could send a form to get information? Or could an author rely only on his own personal knowledge?
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 3, 2023 9:28:38 GMT -5
I would never have been able to research and write my book had it not been for having digital copies of all those Golden Age comics. The 4 gigabyte exterior hard drive on my computer also contains thousands of Atomic, Silver, and Bronze Age comics, including virtually every DC published prior to 1986. But I still have a large collection of paper-and-ink comics, and although I've slowed down adding to it in recent years I'm still occasionally doing so. There really is nothing like sitting down with a stack of old funnybooks and getting lost in their pages.
Cei-U! I summon the best of both worlds!
Incidentally, in the "olden" days, when an author working at one of the Big Two wanted to use an obscure character and wasn't sure where he or she last appeared, did they have someone to ask? Was there a research department where you could send a form to get information? Or could an author rely only on his own personal knowledge? Both companies maintained a library of bound copies of all their output that writers and artists could access if they came into the office. DC even had a staff librarian, Gerta Gattel, from the '50s through the late '70s. They also had E. Nelson Bridwell, who was a walking encyclopedia of DC lore. Marvel didn't have a Gattel or a Bridwell but they had Roy Thomas, Mark Gruenwald and/or Peter Sanderson. If one of 'em didn't know a particular factoid, the odds were good one of the others did.
Cei-U! Would've killed to have access to the DC library!
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Post by MDG on Nov 5, 2023 8:28:33 GMT -5
Sometimes there are additional tradeoffs with digital. I'm currently reading Bendis' Torso, and many of the pages are done as double-page spreads with many panels that aren't laid out in any kind of grid. They don't play well with the panel-by-panel feature either, and sometimes are oriented horizontally, so a have to toggle the rotation lock. TBH, though, it doesn't matter much. The book's basically dialog driven, with most scenes just people talking.
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 5, 2023 8:29:39 GMT -5
Sometimes there are additional tradeoffs with digital. I'm currently reading Bendis' Torso, and many of the pages are done as double-page spreads with many panels that aren't laid out in any kind of grid. They don't play well with the panel-by-panel feature either, and sometimes are oriented horizontally, so a have to toggle the rotation lock. TBH, though, it doesn't matter much. The book's basically dialog driven, with most scenes just people talking. Too much work for me. I had to do something similar with something on my Kindle. And I just thought, ‘I so wish I had a paper copy of this right now.’
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 5, 2023 9:51:22 GMT -5
For reading things, I like physical books. I spend enough time on the computer. I will use hoopla to read comics I'm not willing to pay for but have slight interest in, and I do read the ocassional book on kindle via my phone either because a physical copy isn't readily available or on long drives that might occur at night so I can read in the car. I don't ever pay for either though... my kindle reads come from that free dollar or two amazon gives you when you order something and are willing to accept 'slow' shipping (which is usually a day more at most).
I don't watch alot of TV and Movies, but generally I stick to digital. I do still once in a while by a TV series or Anime that I want to have, and we do still watch some stuff we own now and then, but far less than before.
I've switched 100% to spotify (web player, not their crappy app) for music. they ability to listen to just about any album ever for the cost of listening to 2 or 3 commericals is totally worth it, and it doesn't involve being tied to the screen.
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Post by tonebone on Nov 7, 2023 13:07:54 GMT -5
I love digital comics, and read a lot of them that way. Often, I will later buy the physical copy, also.
What I have found is that when I read a physical copy, I retain much more of the story and experience in memory. My wife tells me that the added tactile sensation of holding a book and turning the pages (and, yes, the smell) causes your brain to create longer lasting and more detailed memories. Same with e-books, supposedly, but I have not found it to be the case for me, when just reading prose text on a kindle vs. a hard copy.
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Post by shaxper on Nov 11, 2023 4:53:12 GMT -5
I remember growing up when people's homes had bookcases filled and racks of vinyl albums with cool stereos to play them on. Homes were "warmer" I think, being amongst the "stuff of life" was so joyous. Absolutely. Had a bunch of my former students over for dinner the other night, all in their early twenties now. I asked them who wanted to pick the first record to play? They all looked so utterly confused. They understood what a record was, and they understood what I was asking, but this was such a new request no one had ever asked of them before. Then one, without looking up from his phone, requested something utterly obscure and niche that would have been no problem on Spotify. I'm pleased that he assumed my vinyl collection would be that deep. In hindsight, I realize the concept they were all missing was that they were supposed to LOOK through my collection first
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