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Post by coveredinbees on Jan 4, 2015 4:01:35 GMT -5
I always love the Ferengi. The different actors do a great job using the same mannerisms. They almost all walk in that sort of shuffling way.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 7, 2015 13:56:22 GMT -5
Episode 11: Vortex
Plot: Odo visits Quark, to grill him on a few new arrivals. He gets indignant, as usual, and seems be lying, as usual. Yup, lying indeed. The Raiders Odo was worried about were indeed there for Quark(Miradorn by race), to see a stolen, er, Fabrege Egg-like thing. Someone tries to steal it, shooting ensues, but then Odo is there (as one of the glasses) and breaks it up.
The bad guys are apparently twins, and when one gets killed, the other is unhappy. The killer turns out to be a new race from the Gamma Quadrant, so Dax is off to find them (or someone is, it's a bit unclear).
Meanwhile, Odo chats with the prisoner(Croden), and is almost convinced there are other shape shifters in the gamma quadrant, and has an pendant that has goo in it that shape shifts.
Apparently Sisko went with Dax through the worm hole, and the aliens aren't too friendly... they want Croden back, he's a wanted criminal, apparently. They prep for Odo to bring him back there, hopefully without the other guy noticing and shooting them out of the sky.
Odo easily gets into the Gamma Quadrant, while Croden spins his tale of woe.
Meanwhile, the surviving twin shakes down Quark and figures out they're gone, and goes after them. He quickly attacks, and Odo has to let Croden take the controls to escape. He lands them on the asteroid where he told Odo there was a changling colony... but it's, of course, a lie. Instead, it's his daughter, in stasis... Croden says the government killed the rest of his family for his 'crimes.' Odo agrees to save the daughter, when the Raider finds them and starts shooting. Odo gets laid out, and Croden saves him (after thinking about it for a while), but the Raider is still on their tail. Odo tricks him into blowing himself up.
A Vulcan science vessel randomly shows up, and Odo gives Croden and his daughter to them, shockingly letting the prisoner go, and promising to tell his people he was killed. Croden give him the amulet with the shape shifty thing (which was a key, it turns out) and Odo heads 'home'
Thoughts:
-- I love that Quark usually greets new people to the station with a free drink, but I'd feel more on his side if so far he hasn't be involved in every bad thing that happens... Odo's right to be massively suspicious of him.
-- You'd think Rom would be in the habit of counting things like cups and plates by now... Odo uses that trick ALOT.
-- It seems Odo goes all to pieces when someone mentions other shape shifters, I hope that gets either resolved or dropped sooner rather than later... it's already getting old.
-- Sisko mentions the Bajorans were the ones who decided to send Croden back.. first time they've been mentioned in a while.
-- Even though this was (again) focused on Odo and Quark, at least everyone else got a quick cameo (well, except for Jake, naturally)
-- The Vulcan thing was way too Deus Ex Machina for me.
-- So I guess Odo calls Croden's planet off screen? Or do they just vanish forever? I hate loose ends.
Pretty blah episode... if those aliens never come back, a completely pointless one (since Odo wanting to find his people has already be established)
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 9, 2015 12:46:02 GMT -5
Episode 12: Battle Lines
Plot: The Kai comes to visit, and Sisko decides to take her through the worm hole. In suitably mysterious religious leader fashion, she gives O'Brien a piece of jewelry for his daughter, who, now that I think about it, hasn't been on camera at all.
In the Gamma Quadrant, they find a weird subspace signal, and the Kai convinces them to investigate... turns out to be a satelite, when then attacks, and shoots them out of the sky... the Kai dies in the crash, and well armed humanoids take the rest captive. Apparently there's a war on, and the people aren't so bad. They say they're prisoners, and don't control the satelites.
Back at the station, Dax and Odo try to deal with the very worried Bajorans.
Back on the moon, the other side attacks, and Kira decided to take action and save the day... then Kai Opaca (apparently totally fine) walks into the cave. As they try to figure that out, the people killed in the battle all come back to life as well. Bashir gets very excited and goes to the runabout to figure out what's going on.
Turns out the war has been going on for generations, and no one can die, so they don't try that hard. After a bit of convincing, Sisko offered to try to broker peace.
Meanwhile, Dax and O'Brien hunt for them, but have trouble. O'Brien does something tricky and they figure it out.
The peace plan fails, and they all kill each other.. Bashir finds out the microbes that are keeping the people alive can't leave the moon. Before they break the news to the Kai, she decides to stay and try to make the people learn how to live again.
Bashir offers to shut the microbes off, but they leave when the leader gets too excited about it being a weapon.. the Kai promises to see Sisko again as they leave.
Analysis:
-- No ships all day? Zero? I guess the excitement of the Gama Quadrant didn't last long. Nice that they remembered the Bajorans exist, at least.
-- I understand for story reasons why they did it, but it's really extremely irresponsible of Sisko to take a foreign religion leader on an adventure.
-- Bashir finally asks like a Star Fleet officer! That's exciting!
-- This is one of (I expect) several Middle East metaphors, and a bit of a heavy handed one. It kinda works, though.
--Soul Searching from Kira... very cool.
Easily the best episode so far... no contest. If felt very much like an original Series episode, only with a bit more depth... very good indeed.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 11, 2015 0:08:34 GMT -5
-- It seems Odo goes all to pieces when someone mentions other shape shifters, I hope that gets either resolved or dropped sooner rather than later... it's already getting old. By season three, it becomes a major focal point of the series.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 11, 2015 0:10:59 GMT -5
Episode 12: Battle Lines Plot: The Kai comes to visit, and Sisko decides to take her through the worm hole. In suitably mysterious religious leader fashion, she gives O'Brien a piece of jewelry for his daughter, who, now that I think about it, hasn't been on camera at all. In the Gamma Quadrant, they find a weird subspace signal, and the Kai convinces them to investigate... turns out to be a satelite, when then attacks, and shoots them out of the sky... the Kai dies in the crash, and well armed humanoids take the rest captive. Apparently there's a war on, and the people aren't so bad. They say they're prisoners, and don't control the satelites. Back at the station, Dax and Odo try to deal with the very worried Bajorans. Back on the moon, the other side attacks, and Kira decided to take action and save the day... then Kai Opaca (apparently totally fine) walks into the cave. As they try to figure that out, the people killed in the battle all come back to life as well. Bashir gets very excited and goes to the runabout to figure out what's going on. Turns out the war has been going on for generations, and no one can die, so they don't try that hard. After a bit of convincing, Sisko offered to try to broker peace. Meanwhile, Dax and O'Brien hunt for them, but have trouble. O'Brien does something tricky and they figure it out. The peace plan fails, and they all kill each other.. Bashir finds out the microbes that are keeping the people alive can't leave the moon. Before they break the news to the Kai, she decides to stay and try to make the people learn how to live again. Bashir offers to shut the microbes off, but they leave when the leader gets too excited about it being a weapon.. the Kai promises to see Sisko again as they leave. Analysis: -- No ships all day? Zero? I guess the excitement of the Gama Quadrant didn't last long. Nice that they remembered the Bajorans exist, at least. -- I understand for story reasons why they did it, but it's really extremely irresponsible of Sisko to take a foreign religion leader on an adventure. -- Bashir finally asks like a Star Fleet officer! That's exciting! -- This is one of (I expect) several Middle East metaphors, and a bit of a heavy handed one. It kinda works, though. --Soul Searching from Kira... very cool. Easily the best episode so far... no contest. If felt very much like an original Series episode, only with a bit more depth... very good indeed. I didn't realize this was a first season episode. I really enjoyed it too. My only disappointment is that it pretty much never gets referenced again. Kai Opaka is clearly gone, but you'd think some Bajoran fanatics would hop on a ship and fly out to see her, or they could at least give her a communicator device so that she could stay connected to Bajor. But no, she just gets dismissed as if the religious leader of the entire fricking planet isn't still out there, sitting in a cave.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 11, 2015 9:13:39 GMT -5
Aw, really? That's disappointing... I thought for sure they'd pick it up again.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 14, 2015 23:09:22 GMT -5
Just a little bonus/extra..I picked up Star Trek: DS9 #9 from the Malibu series at Savers the other day.
It's.. well, it's kinda bad. It's the 2nd a two part story where they find an old unexploded bomb in an unused reactor (sound familiar)... apparently it was put there by a 10 year old girl, and Kira sees herself in the girl's diary. A small Kira flashback is really the only redeeming feature... the art is barely passable , it the story is really just a adaptation of a side story from on of the early episodes.
Then there's an 8 page review of a Klingons Vs. Cardassians mini, only the Klingons visiting DS9 are kind and polite.. it's no wonder they get suprised and blown up... they were probably Star Fleet in disguise.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 15, 2015 20:50:26 GMT -5
Just a little bonus/extra..I picked up Star Trek: DS9 #9 from the Malibu series at Savers the other day. It's.. well, it's kinda bad. It's the 2nd a two part story where they find an old unexploded bomb in an unused reactor (sound familiar)... apparently it was put there by a 10 year old girl, and Kira sees herself in the girl's diary. A small Kira flashback is really the only redeeming feature... the art is barely passable , it the story is really just a adaptation of a side story from on of the early episodes. Then there's an 8 page review of a Klingons Vs. Cardassians mini, only the Klingons visiting DS9 are kind and polite.. it's no wonder they get suprised and blown up... they were probably Star Fleet in disguise. I read the first issue of the Malibu series and didn't mind it, but it wasn't great either. Was Mike W. Barr still writing by the time of #9? The Wildstorm series, though, that was utter garbage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 20:50:57 GMT -5
I always love the Ferengi. The different actors do a great job using the same mannerisms. They almost all walk in that sort of shuffling way. Same here, they were quite interesting, entertaining, and most importantly spice up the show in their own quirky way that I love. Your description is very spot on!
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Post by coveredinbees on Jan 16, 2015 2:03:28 GMT -5
I thought she would come back, too! I think she even says they're not finished, Sisko and her. I was disappointed in the episode because she left. It felt so unimportant. She does appear again in a vision, and she made way for one my most beloved/hated characters.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 16, 2015 15:34:21 GMT -5
She does say that.. I wonder if they had plans and changed them? That sort of thing isn't usually by accident.
The Comic was written by Mark Altman, who, according to GCD, didn't write anything other than 3 issues of the DS9 main comic, and a couple of the spin off minis. Looks like he's one of those superfans turned writers, as he's also done some indy movie stuff and a few 'unauthorized' trek books.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 17, 2015 12:29:37 GMT -5
I thought she would come back, too! I think she even says they're not finished, Sisko and her. I was disappointed in the episode because she left. It felt so unimportant. I wonder if the actor was no longer available after that point? Maybe she was unsatisfied with only doing guest appearances or, once this was no longer a regular job, made other career or life choices that interfered with her returning. Love the actress and loved hating the character at first, but if there was one thing I could undo about DS9, it would be the Pah Wraiths
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Post by coveredinbees on Jan 18, 2015 3:19:58 GMT -5
It got a little too mystical, but that's okay! TNG and Voyager had Q, after all. If there was one thing I could undo, it would be Sisko's mother. I can't wait until wildfire2099 gets there so we can discuss it properly.
Maybe when she said she would come back, she meant only as an orb vision?
Does Sisko not have the best interaction with Q, btw?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 27, 2015 22:15:03 GMT -5
While it was pretty cool when Sisko slugged him, he handled Q far worse than Picard usually does, I don't think it was a good comparison, myself. This one was another very old school feeling episode, but not in the good way. This one was more cheesy than anything.. and pretty forgettable I'd imagine. I guess this is why Quark and Odo are often the focus... when they're not, bad things happen. Ep. 13: Storyteller O'Brien has to take Bashir to Bajor for something, and he tries to weasel out of it to no avail... apparently, he doesn't like him. They arrive, and apparently it's just one old guy that's sick. Meanwhile, Someone called the Tetrach of the Paku comes to the station, and she's much younger (or something) than Sisko and Kira expect. They're apparently mediating a territorial dispute of two Bajoran factions. The young girl gets busted on by Quark, and storms off... of course, Nog see her and falls helplessly in love. Back on Bajor, we find the old guy is just an old guy dying of old age, but his village needs to slay a dragon of some sort. Of couse he gets up and does his thing, but can't manage it. He, in true Star Trek fashion, names O'Brien his successor. He then drops dead, and O'Brien is left to fend off he monster tomorrow. The negotiations are not going well, and Sisko tries to get the girl to compromise, but she's being stubborn, probably to show she's tough. Of course, she turns to Nog and Jake for advice. They help her, and go and steal Odo's bucket for fun. Apparently the old Sirah had an apprentice, and he's pissed, and tries to kill O'Brien. After they stop him, the apprentice tells him the story, apparently the Balrog or whatever is a psychic manifestation of the village, that was created to bring them together. Naturally, O'Brien fails, the apprentice saves the day.and all is well. Apparently it was all a test set up to make sure the people were confident in their new Sirah. On the station, Sisko turns on the fatherhood on the young diplomat. She decides to compromise, and give Nog a peck on the cheek for helping her, which makes him turn to a puddle of goo.. super cutesy. We don't actually find out what happens. The End Thoughts: Nog and Jake are super annoying... whose idea were they, anyway? Jake was really channelling his inner Luke Skywalker with his whining about baseball. I can't wait for them to get older Ok, so the big scary monster is a cloud? Not impressed. I feel like alot of the guest stars here were familiar, but IMDB didn't ring any bells, other than a few of them later being on Enterprise and other shows in a one-off sorta way. Jim Jansen, who looks alot like Mr. Rogers, apparently is another character in a later episode... a trick he did in several other shows too, which is kinda neat. Not so sure about a young diplomat who's struggling to get people to take her seriously should be pulling pranks with middle school kids. Considering how often Keiko's been on the show, I think O'Brien should have taken one of the Bajoran women instead. Speaking of Keiko, should Nog and Jake be in school instead of dangling from the Promenade? Is it summer vacation already? O'Brien in religious robes... hilarious.. he does confused indignation well.
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Post by shaxper on Jan 27, 2015 22:18:10 GMT -5
Wow. I do not remember that episode at all, and I can see why.
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