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Post by dupersuper on Jun 3, 2015 19:47:15 GMT -5
Well, not I'm not sure, actually. I remember very distinctly a Cardassian talking about how he was the one that suggested Odo be an investigator...and how he used to do tricks for the Cardassian commander. it was the episode where pre-commander Kira was a suspect, and she had to lie to him to protect her underground people. YOu know, I think it's the episode where Quark helps the Bajoran chick on the surface get a note out of some cargo hold. I think it was 'Necessary Evil' (the episode) I remember Dukat mentioned some Cardasian had a party in which Odo was doing the Cardasian neck trick, but no mention of said Cardasian finding/raising Odo. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 12, 2015 22:20:15 GMT -5
Armageddon Game
s2 e13
Dr. Bashir and O'Brien are helping two aliens with funny hair(Talani and Kelleran?) eliminate their scary bio-weapons.
As they're decontaminating the last ones, one set of them attacks, and the bio weapon stuff splatters on O'Brien.. they beam down to the surface to escape the troops. (the Talani planet)
Back on DS9, the two ambassadors tell Sisko it was a radiation leak, and everyone died.
On the planet, Bashir and O'Brien try to hole up and avoid the Kellarans.
The command staff watches the video of Bashir and O'Brien dying, and they're pissed. Kira and Odo want to find out what happened... Sisko's just morose.
Then we get quality time with the DS9 odd couple while O'Brien tries to get a communications device to work, when he starts to have flu-like symptoms, and Bashir realizes he got splashed.
Sisko does the talk with Keiko... Kira and Dax remininsce about Bashir. Quark even gets in on the mourning act.
Keiko notices O'Brien is drinking coffee, and he never drinks coffee, so she asks them to investigate.
Back on the planet, O'Brien is fading, but he talks Bashir through fixing the communicator. They bond a bit.
Dax and Sisko find out the video was indeed fake, as the bad guys (a mixed group of the two aliens) find Bashir and O'Brien.. apparently they are killing everyone who has any possibility of re-creating their Bio-Weapon, just in case. Dax grabs them with the runabout's transporter just in time.
The bad guys demand Bashir and O'Brien die, and attack.. Sisko fakes them out and escapes.
Everyone is all set, and we all get a laugh when O'Brien asks Keiko for a cup of coffee in the late afternoon.
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-- O'Brien still doesn't like Bashir
-- 'Harvester' is a pretty good name for a bio-weapon.
--Bashir was pretty spot on about Star Fleet marriages... maybe that's why Keiko's always grumpy.
-- Sisko sure does morose well
-- It's still painful every time Kira and Dax do 'girl talk'
-- Ferengi mourning... priceless!
-- O'Brien just mocked Bashir's accent!!!! I love it.
-- With all this talk about marriage and family... not a single mention of the O'Brien's daughter. Did she get snatched by aliens or something? Oh, never mind... Keiko presents O'Brien with a coffee cup she made. I guess he just doesn't think of her much.
-- O'Brien Finally says something nice to Bashir at the end.... then Bashir ruins it by bringing it up again, and in front of Keiko, no less.
-- Seemed pretty easy for Bashir to cure that super deadly weapon of mass destruction
Pretty weak story.. definitely just an excuse to for more O'Brien-Bashir interaction. That was pretty good, but still an ultimately average and forgettable episode.
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Post by shaxper on Jun 13, 2015 0:26:53 GMT -5
-- With all this talk about marriage and family... not a single mention of the O'Brien's daughter. Did she get snatched by aliens or something? Oh, never mind... Keiko presents O'Brien with a coffee cup she made. I guess he just doesn't think of her much. Just wait until you get to the season six episode "Time's Orphan". The O'Brians are truly the worst parents ever. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 13, 2015 7:20:16 GMT -5
That get quite a few points off the top for dragging their daughter out to DS9 in the first place, so, yeah.. they're certainly in the running.
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Post by shaxper on Jun 13, 2015 9:04:11 GMT -5
That get quite a few points off the top for dragging their daughter out to DS9 in the first place, so, yeah.. they're certainly in the running. It just occurred to me now that, when Keiko started the school because she needed something to do, did we EVER see Molly in that school? |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 13, 2015 10:43:38 GMT -5
Is Molly old enough to be in school? IN the episode with the fantasies come to life (the last time I remember seeing her), she was pretty small.. I'd estimate 3-4... 5 at the most. Keiko, in the 2 or 3 times we've seen the school is shown teaching Jake and Nog (who are high schoolers, I'd say).. even in a old timey 'one classroom' setting, they wouldn't share the class with pre-school/kindergarten. That does beg the question, though, who is caring for Molly? If DS9 didn't have a school before Keiko made one, they sure don't have a day care center. For that matter, just this episode, we see Keiko and O'Brien hanging out in the medical center... where's Molly? Alone in their quarters? With a nanny of some sort? I'm thinking by Shax's posts, they never really address this. Granted, it's not THAT important, but it is curious  Edit: OK, so she was Pregnant during season 5 of TNG... which the internet tells me was 2368... so she's much younger than I thought... barely 3 at her last appearance. |
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Post by shaxper on Jun 13, 2015 14:38:07 GMT -5
That does beg the question, though, who is caring for Molly? If DS9 didn't have a school before Keiko made one, they sure don't have a day care center. For that matter, just this episode, we see Keiko and O'Brien hanging out in the medical center... where's Molly? Alone in their quarters? With a nanny of some sort? Right, and remember the episode where Keio passed her off on the emotionally unstable Cardasdian-Bajoran kid? |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 14, 2015 9:44:45 GMT -5
Indeed, I think that was Molly's last on-screen appearance. When I was looking stuff up, I was shocked to see how few appearances Keiko actually has... she's only in like 12 episodes total (maybe it was 14.. something like that).
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 15, 2015 22:25:55 GMT -5
s2 e14 Whispers
Apparently it's it might be time to re-name the show 'O'Brien and the Brienettes'. We start with O'Brien alot in a runabout, making a log entry about the last 52 hours and being very mysterious.
Flashback a few days, and the O'Briens are in their quarters, and Molly is mean to her dad, then Keiko is kinda rude and dismissive as well.. then they leave, at 5:30 AM.
He goes to work, and finds his underling doing his job, on Sisko's orders, then sees Sisko talking to Keiko when he goes looking. He was planning the security for a alien visit, and thinks that's the root of the issue.
Back in the present, we find that O'Brien thinks he's going to get blasted by the federation.
Back to the flashback, O'Brien continues to get snubbed, run around, and lied to (mostly by Keiko and Sisko), and he's getting more and more annoyed and suspicious.
Odo gets back, and O'Brien tells him about it... Odo seems to be on his side and goes off to investigate.
Odo gets back to him, and apparently everything hits the fan.. Kira and Sisko try to arrest him.. O'Brien uses some sort of homemade flash grenade to escape and shoots a couple people.
He steals the Rio Grande, and called Starfleet, only to find they're in on... whatever it is, too. He heads to the Parada world as someone form DS9 chases him. He successfully hides, then follows them.
He beams down to Parada 2, and finds Sisko and Kira with the Paradans... apparently the O'Brien in this episode this whole time was a replicant sent as a sleeper agent...the Paradans shoot him down, and the real O'Brien is there to see it.. the end.
Well, that was certainly.. different. Not good, exactly, but different.
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-- I really like O'Brien, but I don't need an extreme close up of him... certainly not several of them.
-- Shax was right, they do mention Molly in 'day care' though who is running it and who else is there isn't mentioned.
-- Seeing Kira for like 15 seconds made me realize that she has been practically absent for the last few episodes. Dax, too, for that matter.
-- I feel like have this episode was O'Brien ordering coffee from the replicator.
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Post by shaxper on Jun 15, 2015 22:48:42 GMT -5
I really liked the twist on this one. I've always been a sucker for the "is something wrong with me, or is something wrong with the universe?" episodes. In Next Gen, they always gave those episodes to Dr. Crusher. On DS9, they always give them to O'Brien.
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Post by dupersuper on Jun 16, 2015 1:58:56 GMT -5
-- With all this talk about marriage and family... not a single mention of the O'Brien's daughter. Did she get snatched by aliens or something? Oh, never mind... Keiko presents O'Brien with a coffee cup she made. I guess he just doesn't think of her much. Just wait until you get to the season six episode "Time's Orphan". The O'Brians are truly the worst parents ever. They ain't got nothin' on 7 of 9's folks... |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 3, 2015 23:10:31 GMT -5
s2 Ep. 15
'Paradise'
O'Brien and Sisko are out looking for planets to colonize, when they find one, but it's already inhabitated. Turns out a colony ship heading somewhere else stopped there for repairs, but that there's some sort of anti-tech field that made them not able to leave.
They get a rah-rah speech from on of the Caruso-ees, who is already plotting to have Sisko and O'Brien stay. Turns out the woman Alixus is a true believer.... when Sisko asks for help to get them out of there, to help get a sick kid out of there.
Meanwhile, Kira and Dax figure out there's a problem... but the Runabout is found travelling about Warp 2, not in orbit.
'Ben and Miles' go out in the fields, and come back to find out that the discipline is pretty harsh... one of the younger adults get the 'box' treatment for stealing a candle. Then at night he gets a visit from Cassandra, who Sisko figures out was sent to try to seduce him and make him want to stay.
He confronts Alixus about it, and it turns out she was anti-technology before the crash, and is eagerly writing about it, as if it was all a grand research experiment.
In space, Dax 'lassos' the Rio Grande with a tractor beam and stops it.
The kid dies, and, after another speech about how O'Brien broke the law in trying to contact the ship(wasting time that should have been spent on the community), she puts Sisko in the box.
On the Rio Grande, Dax and Kira find the logs erased and that someone tried to fly it into the sun, but failed. The try to back track to see where Sisko and O'Brien got off.
Sisko gets out of the box, but Alixus refused to let him do anything until he takes off his Starfleet Uniform. He instead climbs back in the box.... I guess a form of hunger strike. O'Brien, of course, doesn't give up, and goes off to figure out what the heck is up with the anti-technology field, using some kinda crazy Swiss Family Robinson compass. (he's got a magnet floating in water in a gourd). He finds the source (some sort of generator) just as a hunter from the settlement finds him. O'Brien tricks him and storms back to the town and blasts Sisko out of the box.. after he shut the field down.
Alixus admits it was all her doing, and that she destroyed the Rio Grande, set up the crash and desertion, all of it.. it really was a grand experiment. She gives another speech about how great it all is. Of course Kira and Dax show up at the end of it. Turns out they're all drinking the Kool-Aid, and they all stay, except of Alixus and her son, who Sisko essentially arrests. The End.
Wow.. while the episode really has no effect on the ongoing story whatsoever (and, if fact, barely fits in the framework of the show), it certainly is thought provoking. Is it OK to use people is guinea pigs for their 'own good'? Does Technology divorce us from others? VERY reminiscient of the sort of Morality plays the Original Series made great use of. It was pretty hokey and predictible from a dramatic standpoint, but that's OK, as it clearly wasn't the point.
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-- So O'Brien's not busy enough, now he has to mentor Jake, too? Next thing you know he'll be doing brewing the beer for Quark and inventorying Bashir's medical supplies.
-- So they fine a nice planet, but there's a colony on it that isn't on the books... and they just beam down??? Hello... Prime Directive??? They're lucky it was Federation people.
-- Funny to see Julie Nickson in a DS9 episode.. she also played Sinclair's love interest over on Babylon 5... especailly when she hits on Sisko. I feel like they need to have a duel or something! A couple of the other colonists were pretty famous names, too... the bad guy is Gail Strickland (who was in Melrose Place) and her husband (boyfriend) is soap opera regular Steve Vinovich.
-- I'm not sure knowing about Hopis and roping cattle makes sense for Dax to know, but it was a cute scene.
-- Man, this is one damn crazy woman for a bad guy.... well done!
-- Things really went full circle.. starting with Sisko asking O'Brien to help with Jake's education (a bit of the 'it takes a village), and ending with the victims of Alixus' experiment decided to stay and continue it without
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 12, 2015 22:47:13 GMT -5
s2 Ep. 16
'Shadow Play'
Odo and Dax are off the the Gamma Quadrant, and they gossip about DS9 romance. Then they find some weird radiation and go down to a planet, where the inhabitant greets them with a blaster.
Back at the ranch, Quark makes a pass at Kira again, and Sisko tells Jake to get a job.
Odo and Dax end up in the office of the space equivalent of Andy Griffith, who was hoping they were behind 22 people vanishing. Naturally, they offer to help him once he decides they're not the criminals. Odo terrifies some children, then finally gets one (the daughter of a disappearee) to chat.
One of the Bajoran religious dudes comes for a visit, and also makes a pass at Kira... she's a bit more receptive, but just barely. Meanwhile, Jake tells O'Brien (after getting the Wesley crusher treatment), that he doesn't really want to go into Starfleet.
On the planet, Odo and Dax find out no one in town ever leaves their valley... apparently they're all holograms... but the machinery is running down. They show the proof to alien Sheriff Andy and the rest, but the hologram people don't believe it. They convince them, and shut the whole thing down to try to fix it... turns out 1 guy is actually real, and basically used the valley as a giant holodeck simulation of real life after running from the Dominion.
The guy decides he wants to go home, but Odo convinces him the the holo-people are real, and that they should fix the projector.
Back on DS9, Kira has her date, but finds out Quark is doing bad gambling things to Bajorans, and runs out in the middle. Apparently Quark was trying to use him to keep Kira busy while his cousin was smuggling loot from the Cardassian war. It fails, but, as usual, Quark isn't connected enough to get caught. Instead, Kira rubs his nose in the fact that she likes the guy alot. Jake tells his dad he's not that interested in Starfleet, and Sisko gives him a great understanding dad speech.
Naturally, Odo and Dax fix the Holodeck thingy, and Odo changes shape for the little girl(Which she had been bugging him about the whole episode).. every lives happily ever after (until the memory fills up again).
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-- The little girl is really cute.. she was apparently a regular on 90210 around the same time.
-- Jake's striped uniform is just about the ugliest thing I've ever seen
-- I feel like the writers realized that they hadn't actually used 1/2 the cast for a few episodes, and just threw every side plot they could think of into a big mish-mash, and the result was that each bit was pretty rushed.
-- This was a little too much like Moriarty for me to really like it... it was also super sappy, in an over the top sort of way, but the character development was decent. Not much story though.. pretty skippable, really.
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Post by shaxper on Dec 13, 2015 22:14:22 GMT -5
I remember these last two episodes well and getting the distinct impression that they were generic Trek episodes that had nothing uniquely DS9 about them. I almost wonder if they were unused plots for TNG episodes found in a file somewhere. Not bad, especially "Shadow Play," but they just felt so...generically Trek.
BTW, it's GREAT to see you bringing this thread back!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 14, 2015 7:59:07 GMT -5
I remember these last two episodes well and getting the distinct impression that they were generic Trek episodes that had nothing uniquely DS9 about them. I almost wonder if they were unused plots for TNG episodes found in a file somewhere. Not bad, especially "Shadow Play," but they just felt so...generically Trek. BTW, it's GREAT to see you bringing this thread back! I agree 100% about 'Paradise'... you you could very easily swap Riker(or Picard) and Geordi(or Data) for Sisko and O'Brien and have the same episode. Actually, maybe not Data.. he'd probably not function. I though the last one felt more like a bunch of vignettes they wanted to get in, but didn't have time for... so they decided to string them all together in on episode instead of having them develop over time. The 'main' story certainly felt like a left over from the TNG Holodeck crazy season... maybe someone say 'enough already' and it went to the 'vault'. |
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