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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 1, 2015 0:20:37 GMT -5
Speaking of which, going back through these old episodes, I realize O'Brien was a lot more likable in the beginning. It isn't until later on that he becomes the volatile curmudgeon I remember so vividly. Yeah, he's mostly only grumpy when Keiko's around. Yeah, that was pretty disturbing. Kira really had her part down too. Yeah, just shows Nana Visitor's the most talented of the cast.. can you imagine Terry Farrell trying to do that? |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 1, 2015 9:18:53 GMT -5
Yeah, he's mostly only grumpy when Keiko's around. That will change. Yeah, just shows Nana Visitor's the most talented of the cast.. can you imagine Terry Farrell trying to do that? I just did...and now my day is ruined. |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 1, 2015 9:25:14 GMT -5
That was just WAY too overdramatic a departure. The long, loving look at Ops really wasn't deserved. Kira had been there for one year and didn't enjoy most of it. But the scene in her quarters was priceless. For better or worse, DS9 isn't going to expend much more effort making the crew feel like a happy family. Too much else gets in the way of that; but it was a fun moment. He didn't flee in terror. He fled to get away from all the attention. Even in his confession to Sisko, he never said he was a bad soldier; just a frightened one. And he's trying to earn redemption here. Sisko is the only one who knows and believes the truth, so earning Sisko's respect matters. That's the one thing I really wish they'd spent some time on. Presumably, Jarro gave him a big welcome home and then shoved him to the side, but we never saw nor heard about any of it. Frank Langella felt very Christopher Lee. Glad you're enjoying it! |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 1, 2015 13:04:01 GMT -5
I agree the scene in her quarters was awesome.. a much needed light moment in a very serious episode, and it fit perfectly. As far as Li Nalas goes, if one doesn't want attention, one finds a quiet place to relax or read or meditate.. one doesn't try to take a permanent trip to the other side of the universe. I feel like he was a completely different character from one episode to the next... Sisko's not THAT good of a pep talk guy  |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 1, 2015 18:30:24 GMT -5
Sisko's not THAT good of a pep talk guy I'll agree with you there. Though he does give those intense looks. I think he'd be a lot more inspiring in person than he is on camera. |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 2, 2015 5:15:52 GMT -5
Just watched through the sixth episode of Season Two last night. Whereas I had little inkling to view most of Season One again, I'm loving retreading Season Two. I won't go into specifics, but I will say that, though episodes 4-6 are all done-in-ones with no further discussion of what's happening on Bejor nor what's become of Jarro and Winn, they're all fairly strong episodes that I enjoyed.
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Post by dupersuper on Mar 2, 2015 16:03:59 GMT -5
...and that I really don't. |
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Post by dupersuper on Mar 2, 2015 16:15:44 GMT -5
Kira was awfully happy to see O'Brien... interesting. If I was my teenage daughter, I'd be 'shipping' them Just wait until she's pregnant with his child... |
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Post by dupersuper on Mar 2, 2015 16:19:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure I buy Li Nalas suddenly being a good, dutiful officer all of a sudden, after trying to flee in terror. Also, what happened to his legions of followers? There was never any indication he was anything but a dutiful soldier in the resistance: he was leaving because he felt uncomfortable with his ill-deserved fame, not because he didn't want to join the Bajoran militia. |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 2, 2015 20:05:41 GMT -5
Once again, let's avoid spoilers for wildfire |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 8, 2015 22:16:09 GMT -5
s2, Ep. 3, The Siege
Sisko gives a pep talk, and the evacuation of DS9 begins. We get a few vignettes for people leaving. The DS9 staff tries to get a message to Bajor, and are interrupted by Quark's shenanigans. Li Nalas lives up to his reputation and rally the Bajorans to stay, as the Starfleet Women and Children leave. Quark, naturally, gets sold out by his brother and has to stay.
The Bajorans find the station deserted, as Sisko and the others hide. Meanwhile, Kira and Dax are on the planet, to find an old resistance ship to use. The Bajorans are suspicious, but they can't find anything.
They starting searching when O'Brien sabotages the power. Bashir's the closest guy to the patrol, so he and his people capture them.. rather easily.
Meanwhile, Kira and Dax get their ship in the air, but they quickly get discovered and shot at. Kira is in full on rebel freedom fighter mode, which is pretty fun. Dax gets in the spirit and shoots one bad guy down, but the other get the drop on them and shoots them down.
There's a shootout in engineering, but it's a draw. They trick the 2nd in command guy into a holosuite, and Sisko tells them they are being tricked by the Cardassians. They let him go, but he lies to the leader and doesn't tell him about it.
Kira is hurt in the crash.. of course, Dax refuses to leave her and they hide from the bad guys until Kira's Vedek buddy saves them. They dress up as, I guess, Bajoran nuns to get the message to the government.
The Bajorans wise up and figure out where Sisko's hiding, he convinces Li Nalas to try to convince the general to switch sides. Meanwhile, Bashir continues the James Bond routine, and is tasked with surrendering to create a distraction for Sisko to set up his plan.
Meanwhile, Kira gets in front of the government with Odo's evidence. Vedek Winn acts like she believes Kira, but I'm sure it's a trap. They government meeting recesses to review the evidence.
Li Nalas convinces the general, but Colonel Day (the 2nd in command that didn't tell him about it) tries to shoot Sisko before his boss can turn the station back over.. Nalas takes the bullet for him, of course.
Everyone comes back, and life goes back to normal.. The End!
-- O'Brien's really actually been pretty interesting the last few issues... Shax's hatred seems unwarranted
-- Nice to see Quark lose for a change.
-- Wow, is that the guy from Wings? Yup.. the other Bajoran bad guy look familar, too. IMDB says it's Stephen Macht, who was in, like, everything.. one of those guys that plays some character in every show
-- This is easily Terry Farrell's best performance to date.. she was actually entertaining!
-- Bashir is suddenly James Bond? I agree with O'Brien, someone else should have been in charge, but he got it done.
-- Nice touch that Sisko is out of uniform, though they're clearly still using the communicators... I guess it's in his pocket or something.
-- OK, so they're in a beat up, rag tag freighter, but really, duck and cover?
-- I think I'd be insulted if I was a Bajoran and someone from another race said they liked wearing my nose. It was pretty weird.
-- Li Nalas got his heroic death after all... I can't help but think he was escaping his responsibility, and doesn't deserve Kira's mourning..
she was the real hero.
I really hope we get an epilogue or something... that wasn't very good closure. What happens to the people that tried to take over? Surely the Circle won't just suddenly love the Federation... they should just be looking for new weapons, right? Pretty decent episode, though it was a little too easy, or something... I never felt like there was any chance of the bad guys of winning.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 8, 2015 23:00:01 GMT -5
s2, Ep. 4 Invasive Procedures There's a plasma storm, and the station is mostly evacuated. For some reason, Quark is causing some sort of trouble, which I'm sure will get explained in a minute. A Small ship pops up in trouble, and they guide them in. It's a trick, and a couple Klingons bust in with guns. They recognize Odo, and force him into a bucket of some sort. There's also a Trill with them. Turns out Quark let them in, so he's in trouble.... again. He was expecting to sell something to them, as well, but they welsh on the deal (of course). Dax stares at the guy, but doesn't answer when he asks if she knows him. The Trill apparently wants the Dax part of Dax (the symbiote, that is)... he a very soft spoken little murderer. He was apparently judged unsuitable, and is not happy about it. Bashir refuses to do it, but the Trill means business, and shoots O'Brien. Dax begs him to comply, and he agrees. Sisko and company try to escape, but fail, as the surgery commences. Sisko works on the girl, but Verad(the Trill) comes onto the bridge as Varad Dax, and stops him. Back in sickbay, Bashir's trying to save Judizea's life, and tries to bully the Klingon into helping him, and somehow succeeds. He gets her stable, and ready to get Dax back, if the good guys win. Sisko appeals to Dax, to no avail... then goes back to work on the girl. Back in sickbay, Bashir uses the distraction of Quark to sedate the Klingon. Quark then uses his criminal touch to pick the lock on Odo's bucket... just as the guys on the bridge realize it and try to run before Odo can get involved. Too late.. Odo is in the house! Verad tries to convince Sisko to let him go, and fails.. he stuns him, despite the risk. Bashir does his medical magic and everyone is fine. --So much for my epilogue... sigh. --Bashir is now happy and bubbly in the face of danger...no gradual development here. -- Oh dear, I hope Dax is up for two episodes in a row... -- Another famous guest-star! He looks WAY better on Smallville later than he does here, though. -- Then there's the Klingon, who is Tim Russ (later Tuvok on Voyager)... apparently he comes back as Tuvok on DS9 later.. later... the female (who's race I don't recognize) also gets to come back as another character later. -- Great performance by John Glover, in fact... reminds me alot of James Nesbitt in Jekyll -- Quark vs. a Klingon... priceless -- James Bond Bashir strikes again! -- Sisko trying to be intimidating? Nah. Well, Dax was unconscious most of the episode, so that's probably good.. the small bit of 'dramatic' acting she did at the end was pretty bad. Kinda a pointless episode, but cool guest stars, so it was worth it for that.  |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 9, 2015 5:01:37 GMT -5
--So much for my epilogue... sigh. I honestly don't recall if we come back to those events or not. They try a very similar storyline later in the season, featuring a splinter terrorist group within the ranks of the Federation instead of the Bajoran Provisional Government this time, and it all sort of runs together for me. DS9 is still experimenting with the long story arc (that three parter was, at the time, the longest story arc any Trek series had ever attempted), and we'll soon get to the point where everything runs together in one continuous sweeping arc and nothing gets forgotten, but we're not quite there yet. Interesting you should mention that. There are a few holosuite episodes on the way... |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 9, 2015 6:23:08 GMT -5
I think the Klingon Sucession stuff was more than 3 episodes, but perhaps not all at once. They certainly go back to it again and again (in fact, it was mentioned in that last DS9 episode)... that's all I ask, really |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 9, 2015 18:49:49 GMT -5
I think the Klingon Sucession stuff was more than 3 episodes, but perhaps not all at once. They certainly go back to it again and again (in fact, it was mentioned in that last DS9 episode)... that's all I ask, really DS9 really is headed there, and will do it much bigger and far more consistently than Next Gen ever did. By Season 4, DS9 is really just one continuously sweeping story arc. |
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