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Post by Icctrombone on May 17, 2023 6:32:10 GMT -5
These are my most disliked characters that have to get their Mount Rushmore: Mantis - her reffering to herself as " this One" has to be the most annoying catch phrase ever. A Mary sue that Steve Engelhart took to every company he worked at. And they were all annoying.  Triathlon- The angry black stereo type had me dislike him from the beginning. Okay, he was forced to be in the Avengers but he had a crappy personality.  Tigra- She joined the Avengers and immediately was useless and had bad things to say about Hank Pym when she didn't even know him. Plus, she was a mole for Tony Stark during Civil War. Not cool.  Nighthawk- He never had a personality and was just a poor poor mans version of Batman.  What four characters make your mountain ? |
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Post by commond on May 17, 2023 6:46:51 GMT -5
Oh man, I totally agree with you about Triathlon. One of the main reasons why I I dislike Busiek's Avengers. I can't believe a guy who created so many amazing characters in Astro City created so many second-rate Marvel characters. Triathlon and Jack-in-the-Box are like night and day.
I don't mind the other three. I need to think a bit harder about my own Rushmore.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 17, 2023 6:48:33 GMT -5
Mantis is also #1 on mine... I would add Deadpool, Squirrel Girl, and rick Jones
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Post by driver1980 on May 17, 2023 7:00:15 GMT -5
I could never get interested in Gambit. At one point, a Marvel UK reprint title (originally devoted to solo Wolverine stories) reprinted Gambit strips, and it frustrated me.
Hydro-Man never appealed to me at all.
The Shroud just seems like so many other characters.
Visually and conceptually, I could never get into Terra-Man.
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Post by badwolf on May 17, 2023 7:33:12 GMT -5
Tigra??? That's it buddy, meet me outside.
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Post by EdoBosnar on May 17, 2023 8:37:30 GMT -5
Hm, yeah... Tigra is a personal favorite of mine - notwithstanding the horrible way Shooter esp. wrote her in his second Avengers run.
Mantis was overbearing by design and worked quite well in the stories she was in.
Similarly, Nighthawk - don't love him, but also don't hate him - is an integral part of my favorite stretch of Defenders issues (mainly Gerber's run, but also the issues immediately before and after it).
I have no opinion on Triathlon; I've never read anything in which he figures as a major character (he briefly appears in JLA vs Avengers, but didn't make much of an impression on me).
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Post by Icctrombone on May 17, 2023 9:42:09 GMT -5
Hm, yeah... Tigra is a personal favorite of mine - notwithstanding the horrible way Shooter esp. wrote her in his second Avengers run. Mantis was overbearing by design and worked quite well in the stories she was in. Similarly, Nighthawk - don't love him, but also don't hate him - is an integral part of my favorite stretch of Defenders issues (mainly Gerber's run, but also the issues immediately before and after it). I have no opinion on Triathlon; I've never read anything in which he figures as a major character (he briefly appears in JLA vs Avengers, but didn't make much of an impression on me). Triathlon was a major @$$ hole. Almost ruined the Buseik Perez run for me. |
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Post by M. W. Gallaher on May 17, 2023 9:50:25 GMT -5
I could never get interested in Gambit. At one point, a Marvel UK reprint title (originally devoted to solo Wolverine stories) reprinted Gambit strips, and it frustrated me. Hydro-Man never appealed to me at all. The Shroud just seems like so many other characters. Visually and conceptually, I could never get into Terra-Man. Gambit is the worst--the Cajun accent sounds like an affectation to me even when I hear people who genuinely have that accent, reading a scripted attempt to convey it is painful. I can't conjure up a convincing voice in my head to accompany the dialog. I haven't read anything with Hydro-Man, but his forerunner, Bill Everett's Hydroman, who could also turn into water, was a delightfully daft concept for a superhero. Between the Shroud and Nighthawk, we have Marvel's top two intentional Batman copies. Of the two, I appreciate Nighthawk more--he did have some personality, at least when he was desperately trying to establish the Defenders into a formal team, to satisfy his own need to belong. Terra-Man, though...I can understand not getting into him, but I think he has incredible potential, enough to headline his own comic or tv series. Raised by outlaws in the old West, kidnapped by aliens who killed his pa, raised in space with alien technology, took his vengeance when he figured out what the aliens did, and returned as an outlaw to a modern-day Earth with an 1800's mindset and 2100's tech? You can do a lot with that concept, man! |
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Post by codystarbuck on May 17, 2023 10:15:07 GMT -5
I could never get interested in Gambit. At one point, a Marvel UK reprint title (originally devoted to solo Wolverine stories) reprinted Gambit strips, and it frustrated me. Hydro-Man never appealed to me at all. The Shroud just seems like so many other characters. Visually and conceptually, I could never get into Terra-Man. Gambit is the worst--the Cajun accent sounds like an affectation to me even when I hear people who genuinely have that accent, reading a scripted attempt to convey it is painful. I can't conjure up a convincing voice in my head to accompany the dialog. I haven't read anything with Hydro-Man, but his forerunner, Bill Everett's Hydroman, who could also turn into water, was a delightfully daft concept for a superhero. Between the Shroud and Nighthawk, we have Marvel's top two intentional Batman copies. Of the two, I appreciate Nighthawk more--he did have some personality, at least when he was desperately trying to establish the Defenders into a formal team, to satisfy his own need to belong. Terra-Man, though...I can understand not getting into him, but I think he has incredible potential, enough to headline his own comic or tv series. Raised by outlaws in the old West, kidnapped by aliens who killed his pa, raised in space with alien technology, took his vengeance when he figured out what the aliens did, and returned as an outlaw to a modern-day Earth with an 1800's mindset and 2100's tech? You can do a lot with that concept, man! Alan Moore had fun with the idea, if not quite the same character, in Tom Strong. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 17, 2023 10:15:09 GMT -5
Silver-Age Superman
Bronze-Age Superman
Modern Age Superman
Superboy
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Post by codystarbuck on May 17, 2023 10:33:37 GMT -5
No experience with Triathlon and little with Mantis...so no opinion on them. never liked Tigra; but, wouldn't put her on a worst list. Love Nighthawk, from the Gerber era of Defenders and always loved the costume. Shroud wasn't developed enough to form an opinion. I only saw him in Marvel Team-up.
For me, the Punisher is at the top of it. Cheap ripoff of Mack Bolan, the Executioner, with none of the more interesting elements. Worked better as a semi-villain and is contemptable as a hero and has inspired too many sick minds in the real world.
Next would be The Lord of Time. Really dull character and I hated when he would pop up in JLA and other DC comics. Gerry Conway seemed to be his only fan. I'd put Kang on there; but, the alternate personas of Rama tut and Immortus save him, as does the potential connection to DR Doom. Never cared for him in stories, though. In some ways, I am glad the original JLA/Avengers crossover never happened, as the villains were to be The Lord of Time and Kang and that is too horrible to contemplate...especially with Conway writing, Perez or no Perez.
Third would be Northwind, in Infinity, Inc. He was basically "The Black Guy." No personality, a tenuous connection to Hawkman (but not his child) and rather dull powers and use of them. Only on the team to keep it from being as lily-white as the JSA.
I'm tempted to put Gambit on there, but I only sampled the X-Men when he first turned up. I thought he was cross-dressing in Polaris' costume...which, quite frankly, would have made for a more interesting character than a Justin Wilson reject. But, no, not Gambit. Similarly, I think Deadpool is about as funny as smashing your hand with a hammer, repeatedly and he started out as a poor man's Deathstroke. Still, no. He's just badly written (and drawn) for my tastes.
Number 4 is reserved for the entire organization of Checkmate. How the heck do you screw up a secret spy organization with a chess them? Charlton did it well as an 8-page back up (The Knight); but, DC couldn't manage it, with its own title and appearances in a slew of other books. They even put Amanda Waller and Harvey Bullock in there and it was dull. Makes ZOWIE look competent.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 17, 2023 10:35:27 GMT -5
Silver-Age Superman Bronze-Age Superman Modern Age Superman Superboy That's just un-American! |
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Post by badwolf on May 17, 2023 10:45:50 GMT -5
Phoenix (Rachel Summers)
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on May 17, 2023 11:17:22 GMT -5
Superman
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Hulk
For some that might be a Mt. Rushmore of excellence but for me, it is littered with characters who have never ever appealed to me.
And for those seeking to suggest I am anti-green....Spectre and The Scorpion are two of my favourite characters every within all of comics, for different reasons.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 17, 2023 11:21:23 GMT -5
Superman Green Lantern Aquaman Hulk For some that might be a Mt. Rushmore of excellence but for me, it is littered with characters who have never ever appealed to me. And for those seeking to suggest I am anti-green....Spectre and The Scorpion are two of my favourite characters every within all of comics, for different reasons. |
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