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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 25, 2022 14:55:19 GMT -5
At first I called BS on this , but yeah, They were an invading force and bad guys in that respect. I dispute that Lee had nothing to do with it. Stan Lee himself has said that Kirby added the Surfer on his own initiative, his presence in the story a fait accompli when Stan received the penciled art boasrds for dialoguing. It;'s to Stan's credit, however, that he immediately grasped what Jack ws going for and tailored his script accordingly.
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That part I knew but the poster implied Kirby created Galactus by himself also. |
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Post by Confessor on Dec 25, 2022 16:04:15 GMT -5
Lee did change all that to give us Norin Rad ... This is probably a stupid question, but I've always wondered whether the name Norin Rad was influenced at all by NORAD (The North American Aerospace Defence Command)? Like, was Lee thinking of unidentified flying objects like the Silver Surfer and somehow in his mind the name of NORAD -- who, after all, monitor the skies of America to ensure aerospace sovereignty and would certainly detect a being like the Surfer zipping through the skies over the U.S. -- came to him, and from that we get Norin Rad? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 18:37:10 GMT -5
That’s an interesting hypothesis, Confessor. And I like it!
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Post by kirby101 on Dec 25, 2022 19:34:22 GMT -5
I have no idea, but that is an interesting speculation Confessor.
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Post by Crimebuster on Dec 25, 2022 23:54:48 GMT -5
2. The Triumvirate of Terror2. The Masters of EvilI'm not sure any storyline had as big an impact on me as a kid as the Mansion Siege storyline in Avengers #271-277. The Masters of Evil from this run are fantastic, and Baron Zemo's master plan utilizes them all in excellent fashion. The clashing personalities within the group are great. It's a classic storyline for a reason, and one that's imprinted on my brain forever.  |
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Post by Farrar on Dec 26, 2022 15:50:43 GMT -5
Lee did change all that to give us Norin Rad ... This is probably a stupid question, but I've always wondered whether the name Norin Rad was influenced at all by NORAD (The North American Aerospace Defence Command)? Like, was Lee thinking of unidentified flying objects like the Silver Surfer and somehow in his mind the name of NORAD -- who, after all, monitor the skies of America to ensure aerospace sovereignty and would certainly detect a being like the Surfer zipping through the skies over the U.S. -- came to him, and from that we get Norin Rad? , fwiw back when Stan first gave the SS the civilian name of "Norrin Radd", some readers in the fanzine press at the time noted the association and came to the same conclusion. As far as I remember, though, there was no acknowledgement by Marvel (at least back then). But it seems likely. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 27, 2022 14:54:29 GMT -5
Huh...apparently I didn't do that thing I do for the last two days. Probably because I seldom get on the site on the weekend except on my phone. And that's a pain. So...
The Anti-Justice League - So...yes, every group and every hero had a "revenge" squad of some sort. Still seems like an economically unfeasible way to crime.
Insecticons - Yeah...I still don't get Transformers.
Thunderbolts - I feel like this is the first time we've seen them. But I could be wrong. I remember then being a big deal. But I've not read their books. So maybe they're really a small deal.
The Grail - Sigh. I can't believe I didn't think of them. Honestly I had a hard time making my brain move out of superhero mode. I blame long Covid. My brain doesn't work as good as it used to. Brilliant.
Galactus and The Silver Surfer - These two are 100% villains. The Surfer, in whatever permutation, is aiding and abetting genocide. And he's a whiny git, so to hell with him.
Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady - I got nothing when it comes to the Teenage Deaf-mute Idiot Turtles.
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Post by Farrar on Dec 29, 2022 21:56:40 GMT -5
2. Dr. Cyber and Reginald Hyde-Whyte - as seen in Wonder Woman #182I loved Wonder Woman's mod Diana Prince-era; the art was vivid and the stories were fast-paced and exciting. This issue, #182, is one of my favorites from that run; it packed quite an emotional punch--I felt so bad for poor Diana. During that time WW's chief antagonist was the vicious Dr. Cyber. In Wonder Woman #181, Diana and Ching were assisted by detective Tim Trench ("I'm becoming fond of Tim--very fond!" Diana thinks) in their fight against Cyber. However, at the end of the issue Cyber bribes Trench with jewels and he flees the scene, leaving Diana and Ching to withstand the attack of Cyber's trained falcons. In the next issue, #182, Diana and Ching are reeling from that ordeal when a stranger named Reginald Hyde-Whyte comes to their aid--or so Diana thinks...  You can guess what happens. Reggie helps them in their pursuit of Cyber; and Diana and Reggie grow very close (Diana: "I've never felt this way before--"). But at the crucial moment Reggie's connection to Cyber is revealed and Diana suffers yet another betrayal.  To see how it turns out, take a look here. {Spoiler: Click to show} Unlike Tim Trench, who would pop up again in DC some time later, this was Reggie's only appearance. Guess Dr. Cyber followed through on her promise to Reggie  
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Post by Myke Gee on Dec 29, 2022 22:22:48 GMT -5
2. SALEM'S SEVEN Salem’s Seven is the elite strikeforce of a hidden cabal of witches and warlocks. These seven warriors can magically mutate into superhuman forms specifically designed to defeat the Fantastic Four. They have also battled the Avengers, and the Vision and the Scarlet Witch.
Everyone in the mystically hidden town of New Salem, Colorado has occult powers. The most powerful of them, and their leader, was Agatha Harkness. When Agatha became aware of the world-bending powers of Reed and Sue Richard’s son, Franklin, she chose to leave New Salem to become Franklin’s governess.
Agatha’s son, Nicholas Scratch, took advantage of her absence to install himself as the leader of New Salem. Fearing that his mother would betray their hidden community, Scratch abducted her and Franklin to stand trial for treason. Convinced that the Fantastic Four would come in search of them, he magically mutated his seven grown children (Agatha’s grandchildren), giving them abilities designed to counteract the Fantastic Four’s powers.
Members: Brutacus, Hydron, Vakume, Vertigo, Gazelle, Reptilla, Thornn.
Creators: Len Wein, George Perez, and Joe Sinnott. First Appearance: FANTASTIC FOUR #186.***** One of the easiest things to do when creating a criminal super-team is to create or assemble a team of villains that are evil versions of the superhero or super-team. That's why I didn't use the Injustice League/Legion of Doom, the Frightful Four (although they really don't mimic the heroic FF), the Legion of Super-Villains, etc. The Seven were a magic-based team of villains that, in some ways, really weren't villains. They had no agenda of world conquest or even committing a crime. They just did what their father told them to do. To support this, from what I've read, they reformed and became something like heroes. They are another team that hasn't had many appearances, but the ones that they've had always left an impression on me. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 30, 2022 11:49:13 GMT -5
I'm honestly surprised it took this long for Salem's Seven to appear. One of Perez's better team designs in his pre-Teen Titans phase.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 30, 2022 13:33:14 GMT -5
I'm honestly surprised it took this long for Salem's Seven to appear. One of Perez's better team designs in his pre-Teen Titans phase. (...) I'm a bit surprised that they didn't even occur to me, as I really enjoyed their handful of appearances in the late '70s/early '80s. I still don't think they would have made my list, but thumbs up to Myke Gee for including them. |
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