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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 23, 2022 6:53:18 GMT -5
10. Captain America and Bucky This left me scarred for years, a quivering mess, no longer able to function in modern society. Cap fights ... Cap??? wait what??? Old Old Cap vs New Old Cap, this cant be, unthinkable and Bucky, alive I dont know what it is about this that meant so much to 12 or 13 year old me, I know it was years before I ever got to read it entirely. For my money the single best comic story, and man I love watching Sal have guys punched across a page. Now that's an unexpected choice! Well done!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 23, 2022 9:20:48 GMT -5
Led by Doctor Octopus – who, I guess, was is probably considered definitely Spider-Man's arch-enemy at the time – and always has been and will be. Made some fixes for you. Those fixes are still wrong.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 23, 2022 11:36:06 GMT -5
The Crime Syndicate
2000, DC While I do love the original incarnation of the Crime Syndicate this version from Grant Morrison and Frank Quietly's 2000 graphic novel is by far my favorite version. Gardner Fox came up with a great "What if..." in Justice League of America #29 with a version of our favorite heroes only from a world where they were instead super criminals, however I think Morrison did one better by making them more brutal. Normally I'm not a fan of senseless brutality and wanton sadism...but it really fits here. If our heroes are symbols of the absolute best humanity has to offer then their reflections must be equally as evil which the original version just never really captured.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 23, 2022 12:22:29 GMT -5
The Crime Syndicate
2000, DC While I do love the original incarnation of the Crime Syndicate this version from Grant Morrison and Frank Quietly's 2000 graphic novel is by far my favorite version. Gardner Fox came up with a great "What if..." in Justice League of America #29 with a version of our favorite heroes only from a world where they were instead super criminals, however I think Morrison did one better by making them more brutal. Normally I'm not a fan of senseless brutality and wanton sadism...but it really fits here. If our heroes are symbols of the absolute best humanity has to offer then their reflections must be equally as evil which the original version just never really captured. I'm far from a fan of Morrison's work, but I would agree that this is one of the best versions of the Crime Syndicate. This is, in fact, one of a handful of stories written by Morrison that I genuinely like.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 23, 2022 14:23:12 GMT -5
In which I manage to continue doing that thing I do.
Angel Gang - They don't seem very angelic.
The Council of Kangs - How many Kangs are too many Kangs? One. One Kang is one too many.
The Sinister Six - I'm sure we've talked about The Sinister Six before. But it's my thing and my rules. So I just want to say that Amazing Spider-Man Annual #1 is among the very best Silver Age stories.
Ir, Ur and Ar, the Mutants from Doom Patrol - Prince Hal can always be counted on for Silver Age weirdness. So good for him. Doom Patrol was such a weird outlier among SA DC.
Chantinelle and the First of the Fallen - Brilliant. I was not a big fan of Jenkins' run on Hellblazer. But it's also been a LONG time since I've read it. But I loved these two individually.
Mole Man including The 3-Headed Guardian of Monster Isle, Gigantus, Gorgilla, Grottu, and Kro of the Deviants. - Sad face emoji. Honestly I kind of thought of this story. I have been meaning to re-read it. But I haven't gotten around to it. So I love this pick. And am sad I didn't pick them.
Frightful Four (with Electro) - I love that (with Electro). It feels like a commercial. "Alberto's pasta. Now with added cheese!"
Captain America and Bucky - This is bloody amazing. I doff my hat to you.
The Crime Syndicate (Morrison edition) - I've read this book once. I do not remember it. So...yeah.
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Post by Myke Gee on Dec 23, 2022 21:37:27 GMT -5
So, I spent most of the 10th Day of Christmas laid up in the hospital recovering from hip replacement surgery. Finally got that out of the way. so now, back to business!!!3. THE SERPENT SOCIETY The Serpent Society is a business enterprise of criminals and mercenaries whose costumed identities are based on snakes. The Society remains one of the best-organized, most successful coalitions of criminals in operation today. The society is the brainchild of Seth Voelker, alias the Sidewinder, who was inspired by three previous coalitions of snake-themed criminals, each named the Serpent Squad. Sidewinder convinced Anaconda, Black Mamba, and Death Adder of the sincerity of his intention to help them better their lot, and sent them to contact Asp, Bushmaster, Cobra, Cottonmouth, Diamondback, Princess Python, and the Rattler. At an introductory meeting at a Manhattan hotel, which Viper refused to attend, Sidewinder laid out his plan: the various snake-criminals would band together as a single society. This society would function not unlike a labor union in that its members would receive guaranteed pay, better access to technology, and insurance and health benefits. The Constrictor was unimpressed by the proceedings and attempted to alert the Avengers. Anaconda later found Constrictor and beat him within an inch of his life as punishment. Members: Anaconda, The Asp, Black Mamba, Boomslang, Bushmaster, Coachwhip, The Constrictor (Frank Payne), The Constrictor II (Frank's son), Death Adder (Burroughs), Death Adder II (Scott), Diamondback, Fer-De-Lance, Puff Adder, Princess Python, The Rattler, Rock Python, Sidewinder (Voelker), Slither, King Cobra, Viper (Sarkissian) Creators: Steve Englehart (The original Serpent Squad) / Mark Gruenwald and Paul Neary (The Society) First Appearance: CAPTAIN AMERICA AND THE FALCON #173 (Original Squad) / CAPTAIN AMERICA #310 (1985) (The Society) ***** Another team with a theme. I've been a big fan of them mainly because of that. Another one that I don't have a huge explanation as to why I like them. I just do.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 25, 2022 12:20:28 GMT -5
10. Captain America and Buck In my opinion, you won the 2022 Classic Christmas with this entry. Your no-prize is in the mail.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 18:18:23 GMT -5
3. The Beagle BoysThere was just no way I couldn't have the Beagles high on this list. They do every thing they can to make Uncle Scrooge's life miserable. They don't have a huge amount of individual personality (at least the core Beagles) but that's okay. You can definitely tell them apart by their numbers. I also remember having quite a few issues of the Beagles own comic back before I started buying my own books. Have no idea how they would hold up after all these years, but It's pretty impressive that these villains got their own magazine. I like them, and would love to read even more about them. But I do have a question: in a world of anthropomorphic animals, why do the Beagle Boys look more akin to humans than beagles? I know there isn’t necessarily an answer to that. But even Goofy, who walks upright, at least looks like a dog.’ The Beagle Boys are great, and I’m not criticising their inclusion, but if anything, it’s interesting that, certainly through my eyes, they look more akin to humans than animals.
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Post by foxley on Dec 25, 2022 18:27:48 GMT -5
3. The Beagle BoysThere was just no way I couldn't have the Beagles high on this list. They do every thing they can to make Uncle Scrooge's life miserable. They don't have a huge amount of individual personality (at least the core Beagles) but that's okay. You can definitely tell them apart by their numbers. I also remember having quite a few issues of the Beagles own comic back before I started buying my own books. Have no idea how they would hold up after all these years, but It's pretty impressive that these villains got their own magazine. I like them, and would love to read even more about them. But I do have a question: in a world of anthropomorphic animals, why do the Beagle Boys look more akin to humans than beagles? I know there isn’t necessarily an answer to that. But even Goofy, who walks upright, at least looks like a dog.’ The Beagle Boys are great, and I’m not criticising their inclusion, but if anything, it’s interesting that, certainly through my eyes, they look more akin to humans than animals. Short answer.
The dogfaces (as they are known in Disney comics fandom) first showed up in the works of Carl Barks, who initially wanted to draw humans for the Donald Duck comics but Disney insisted on keeping humans out. Barks compromised by adding pig or dog noses to the human designs he drew, though occasionally he did manage to sneak in actual humans. Don Rosa followed Barks's lead, though he would sometimes drop the "dog snout/ears" element, making them basically humans with black noses.
Hope that helps.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 18:28:40 GMT -5
Thank you, that satisfies my curiosity immensely!
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Post by Crimebuster on Dec 25, 2022 23:48:17 GMT -5
3. The Triumvirate of Terror
3. The Skeleton CrewAs I mentioned before the Red Skull always seems to work best with a group of interesting henchmen. Much as I love the group, he put together in the Brubaker run, my favorite team of villains he's assembled is easily The Skeleton Crew: Crossbones, Mother Night, Machinesmith, The Voice, The Sleeper, and eventually a rotating cast of increasingly incompetent z-listers. Crossbones and Machinesmith in particular just were so different and worked so well together as an unlikely pairing. It was a super fun group of bizarre doofuses that I loved.
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Post by Farrar on Dec 29, 2022 16:51:23 GMT -5
3. The Brotherhood of Evil - as seen in the Silver Age Doom PatrolThis supervillain group gets my vote for the most outrageous, imaginative members--what reader wouldn't be fascinated by an assemblage featuring a gorilla, a stretchy shapeshifter, and a disembodied brain? The BoE matched the Doom Patrol in terms of freakiness and proved to be worthy adversaries over and over again, making for very entertaining reading. Arnold Drake gave the BoE members distinct personalities and made sure they underwent character development; in particular, Madame Rouge graduated to a DP co-star of sorts when she and The Chief embarked on a relationship. Drake knew how to play up their quirks, flaws, and personalities and Bob Haney did a great job doing the same in Brave and the Bold #65. Now this is what I call camaraderie
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