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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 23:45:38 GMT -5
Because Marvel already set the precedent for temporary deaths by bringing back Jean Grey and it sold like gangbusters....
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 13, 2014 23:45:50 GMT -5
I grabbed a black bag Superman #75 for $5 a few years back. The winner for the overly hyped comic from the 1990s that has retained the most value is Platinum Dealer Incentive Spider-Man #1 which still sells for around $200 on ebay. To be fair, no one knew it existed until after it had already become a sensation. It wasn't a book people rushed out to buy multiple copies of, and neither were New Mutants #98 nor X-Force #2. A quick look of completely listings on e-bay shows a Superman #75 is bargain bin material (lots, even a couple black bag ones selling for $1). Same with the X-Men #1, Uncanny #248, and Uncanny #281 (from the wizard hot list). The Deadpool stuff is out of control valuable, but I do wonder how long ridiculous over the top silliness can really sell. That Spidey #1 is down to about $100, looks like.... a couple went recent for $50, and a CGC'ed 8.0 for $93. CGC's 9.2 for $132. A couple did go $200 or more, but only CGC'ed 9.6+. Also, for something that only has 10000 in existance, an awful lot of them pass through ebay  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 23:49:39 GMT -5
I grabbed a black bag Superman #75 for $5 a few years back. The winner for the overly hyped comic from the 1990s that has retained the most value is Platinum Dealer Incentive Spider-Man #1 which still sells for around $200 on ebay. To be fair, no one knew it existed until after it had already become a sensation. It wasn't a book people rushed out to buy multiple copies of, and neither were New Mutants #98 nor X-Force #2. A quick look of completely listings on e-bay shows a Superman #75 is bargain bin material (lots, even a couple black bag ones selling for $1). Same with the X-Men #1, Uncanny #248, and Uncanny #281 (from the wizard hot list). The Deadpool stuff is out of control valuable, but I do wonder how long ridiculous over the top silliness can really sell.That Spidey #1 is down to about $100, looks like.... a couple went recent for $50, and a CGC'ed 8.0 for $93. CGC's 9.2 for $132. A couple did go $200 or more, but only CGC'ed 9.6+. Also, for something that only has 10000 in existance, an awful lot of them pass through ebay As insane as prices were for Deadpool stuff the past few years, the have gotten even more insane since Fox officially announced a Deadpool movie, and they spiked previously when the Deadpool video game hit the market. Wizkids did an entire set of Heroclix based on Deadpool theme (even with sarcastic word balloons of dialogue as pieces) and it was one of the more anticipated and better selling Heroclix sets of the past few years. Deadpool has crossed over from comics to pop geek culture so don't expect those prices to drop anytime soon. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 0:03:36 GMT -5
You can argue that the Death Of Superman started off the speculation craze of the 90's. Oh, it goes back several years prior to that. Spider-Man #1, followed by X-Force #1, followed by X-Men #1, followed by Youngblood and Spawn... It's not speculation that those two events did that made me hate super hero comics. It's the necessary event-that-changes-everything that infiltrates all titles, requires you to spend more on that publisher (and to someone on a budget, less at another publisher), and then everything is back to normal a few short months later. I liked Batman. I didn't like every single title involved in Knightfall, I didn't like buying every single title involved in Knightfall, and I didn't like knowing if I didn't buy them all I'd miss out on a major story on a title I did like. So what did it do? It caused me to cut back on things like Usagi Yojimbo, Groo, Elfquest, and so on. Years later, when I got back into comics, which stood up to the test of time? The ones I dropped in favor of that drek. I can't say I've read a whole lot of current Marvel or DC super hero comics since, I did buy the Joker HC, but that was out of continuity and a stand alone oneshot. But I've been on comic forums since 2008. I've been reading blogs and articles and forum posts and previews and reviews. From what I can tell, the mainstream comic industry has not improved since my departure. Meanwhile Groo and Usagi are as great as ever. It's a no brainer to me. |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 14, 2014 0:38:24 GMT -5
Because Marvel already set the precedent for temporary deaths by bringing back Jean Grey and it sold like gangbusters.... -M But at least Marvel had the decency to wait half a decade before bringing her back. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 0:40:57 GMT -5
Because Marvel already set the precedent for temporary deaths by bringing back Jean Grey and it sold like gangbusters.... -M But at least Marvel had the decency to wait half a decade before bringing her back. Only because editorial decided to change the ending of the original story... -M |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 14, 2014 0:50:01 GMT -5
But at least Marvel had the decency to wait half a decade before bringing her back. Only because editorial decided to change the ending of the original story... -M And editorial decided to bring her back too. Claremont protested both decisions. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 0:51:27 GMT -5
Only because editorial decided to change the ending of the original story... -M And editorial decided to bring her back too. Claremont protested both decisions. And both decisions made Marvel boatloads of money... -M |
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Nov 14, 2014 1:26:27 GMT -5
Seem to remember that Superman 75 was virtually the pin that popped the bubble for the industry. Marvel and DC (and Image) had been hammering special this and collector item that since the rocket ship Todd, and the market was only going to stretch so far.
I think there was a column on CBR by the guy who runs a shop that talked it through. Something like the book being the straw that broke the camels back. Investors/collectors just had enough of the greed that was trying to take advantage of them.
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Post by shaxper on Nov 14, 2014 1:37:53 GMT -5
Seem to remember that Superman 75 was virtually the pin that popped the bubble for the industry. Marvel and DC (and Image) had been hammering special this and collector item that since the rocket ship Todd, and the market was only going to stretch so far. I think there was a column on CBR by the guy who runs a shop that talked it through. Something like the book being the straw that broke the camels back. Investors/collectors just had enough of the greed that was trying to take advantage of them. Well, Knightfall came shortly after and still managed to get mainstream media attention and major speculator attention as well. But yeah, shortly after the smoke had cleared from both events, and Superman was back to life, and Bruce Wayne was back in the cowl, it pretty much all started to fall apart. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 1:40:21 GMT -5
It felt like an epiphany when I finally thought "Wow, this is... STUPID!"
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Post by shaxper on Nov 14, 2014 1:42:01 GMT -5
Anyway, I think we've officially derailed this thread and are now talking about The 90's Speculation Boom instead of what was good about the '90s. Let's get back on topic or take the conversation over to the appropriate thread. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 14, 2014 7:53:59 GMT -5
I usually re-read Hitman every Year. It was that entertaining. also, Savage Dragon is now at 199 and is one of the underrated books on the market. The characters age in real time and when they die, they don,t come back. That was a book that started in the 90's.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 14, 2014 9:59:39 GMT -5
Because Marvel already set the precedent for temporary deaths by bringing back Jean Grey and it sold like gangbusters.... -M But at least Marvel had the decency to wait half a decade before bringing her back. Also, she was the PHOENIX, which, by definition, comes back from the dead. If any character should, it's her. I'd much rather her be brought back from the dead again than the younger selves brought to the future nonsense they're doing now. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 14, 2014 10:04:00 GMT -5
Back on topic.. Most of my favorites from the 90s are DC/Vertigo: Books of Magic (great until they gave in and tried to make Tim Hunter Harry Potter... I literally threw the comic across the room when they gave him an owl buddy) Sandman (duh) Hitman's a great choice Resurrection Man.. I always though DC had big plans for Mitch Shelley, as featured as he was in 1 million, but it just never caught on.. too bad, DnA are one of my favorites (until they broke up) Savage Dragon I've long wanted to get into... I just ordered the first phone book trade that coming out, so I'm excited for that  |
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